Roll cage padding? (1 Viewer)

[toyotaspeed90]

SFI padding where you could hit your head, regular roll bar padding elsewhere.

I ordered 3 sticks of each from Summit Racing, I think it was under $100 (ordered stainless braided fuel line and an EFI rated fuel filter at the same time, all under $180). All same brand padding. When they arrive (hopefully this week) I'll post photos of the unmounted pads, and look to see what the SFI vs non looks like.

I've ordered both rated and non rated harnesses before and there's a big quality difference, even in "name brand" items.

Non SFI, if the same company, is probably from batches that failed the safety standards.... is hitting your head against it worth the $10 per stick difference?

In the last story - it knocked you out.... if you didn't have it at all, it could have killed you....

 

[kevos37]

Probably not the best place to post this but has anyone painted their dash pads? If so, what is the best paint to use?

Yea, now that I looked at your question.... it was a good question, but a little off topic lol

 

[Tin basher]

Sfi padding isn't going to help you if you smack your bare head on it
It's designed to protect the helmet that is protecting your head
There is not one motor racing sport that requires sfi rating that doesn't require wearing a helmet
My point was I got knocked out with a lot less force than a slow speed roll over
One of the guys I used to drag race with got rear ended on the street his rollcage had sfi padding
He had head trauma
Sadly he didn't survive what was a fairly mild collision
So don't let some racing rating lull you false security

 

[darwink1]

A buddy ended up giving me a full set of pads and zippered covers from his tj. With a bit of creativity thay can be used in key areas.

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[Wadesters]

If you decide to go with roll bar padding I have a good deal on a complete kit (more pictures at: http://wadesters.fototime.com)

Complete kit of Specter off Road Roll Bar Padding. More than enough for a full roll cage (probably enough for two). Lengths of padding included: 80"-1 piece, 48"-4 pieces, 36"-4 pieces, 24"-5 pieces, 12"-2 pieces. Some of it is new still in package. The rest is all in great shape. Also included the padding that goes inside on the roll bar tubes. All can be seen on SOR's site page 246. Here is their description: This is the best roll bar padding kit you've ever seen on a Land Cruiser! Protects your body and your equipment with our cushioned roll bar padding kit. Works great, looks great with the hardtop on or off. Specter's new roll bar padding kit makes it easy to cover your roll bar with padding and a full set of Tuff Duck pad covers. This padding kit fits like a glove, tailored for a nice fit over the curves of your factory OEM roll bar. Kit comes complete with enough padding and a full set of custom fit pad covers. Does not fit with factory roll bar pads. Tuff Duck material in Tan vinyl (TN), New Tuff Duck roll bar pad covers just released this season to match all your other Specter Tuff Duck products. These pad covers are designed to cover your roll bar padding and add a touch of class. Covers are available in 12-inch, 18-inch, 24-inch and 36-inch lengths. Easy to install, hook and loop closures. Covers are sold each, and come in your choice of Tuff Duck Black vinyl, Tuff Duck Brown vinyl, Tuff Duck Gray vinyl, Tuff Duck Tan vinyl, and Tuff Duck Olive Drab vinyl. Available in 12-inch, 18-inch, 24-inch and 36-inch lengths. Padding sold separate. See part #246-22 $200 for all of it

 

[toyotaspeed90]

Sfi padding isn't going to help you if you smack your bare head on it
It's designed to protect the helmet that is protecting your head
There is not one motor racing sport that requires sfi rating that doesn't require wearing a helmet
My point was I got knocked out with a lot less force than a slow speed roll over
One of the guys I used to drag race with got rear ended on the street his rollcage had sfi padding
He had head trauma
Sadly he didn't survive what was a fairly mild collision
So don't let some racing rating lull you false security

While I agree with you that the padding is designed to be used with a helmet.... my point is that you could have been far worse off in your situation had there been no padding at all. The purpose of the padding is to decelerate the object impacting the padding. It isn't by any means a guaranteed safety net.... but a metal bar has zero absorption.


As for what I ordered I guess I was wrong (partially because I was shopping between Summit and Jegs). Jegs has the Jaz sfi and non sfi 1/2 pad whereas Summit has the full bar non sfi, which is a different material altogether. I ordered the non sfi full bar padding from Summit (3x 3' @ $9/ea) and Allstar SFI 1/2 bar padding (3x 3' @ $22/ea).

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

non-SFI means it isn't certified by SFI, nothing more, nothing less. SFI, IP, and like Underwriter's Laboratory are private companies. SFI is a certification process that certified products for race use. They pay for ever bit sold and it's exceptionally expensive (think millions). It's not ends, it's not defective, it's simply product that does not have the money paid to the SFI foundation. I wouldn't call it a racket - but it runs a fine line. That said, they provide a very useful service by saving lives, legs, arms and other assorted body parts from running your vehicle at 10/10ths 100% of the time.

Again, though, I caution that you need to know what you're buying and simply because it looks similar does not mean it's the same stuff. Do your homework, the companies tell you the (for example) durameter of the padding. Padding comes in all manner of thicknesses and softness. SFI rating is usually for a specific place in the raced vehicle. Dash pads are harder then knee pads, which are softer then areas protecting the helmet.

Chinese knock-offs usually don't put the fire retardant or UV protection. This is why we wrapped pads back in the day - plumbing pipe-insulation doesn't have UV protection and would start to flake after just a few times out. Vinyl wrap (aka electrical tape) does have UV protection.... now? I wrapped mine for longevity and style but honestly, unless you're rubbing against it you don't need to wrap true roll bar padding.

 

[Tin basher]

Super Buick hit it right on the head with the sfi
Being a racket
It cost around 5 grand a year to have all the sfi stuff
Recertified in the race car I crew on
It does cover a 1/4 mile in a little over 5 seconds
Makes you think a lot harder about safety
When you are strapping your buddy into a rolling nitromethane powered bomb

 

[toyotaspeed90]

non-SFI means it isn't certified by SFI, nothing more, nothing less. SFI, IP, and like Underwriter's Laboratory are private companies. SFI is a certification process that certified products for race use. They pay for ever bit sold and it's exceptionally expensive (think millions). It's not ends, it's not defective, it's simply product that does not have the money paid to the SFI foundation. I wouldn't call it a racket - but it runs a fine line. That said, they provide a very useful service by saving lives, legs, arms and other assorted body parts from running your vehicle at 10/10ths 100% of the time.

Again, though, I caution that you need to know what you're buying and simply because it looks similar does not mean it's the same stuff. Do your homework, the companies tell you the (for example) durameter of the padding. Padding comes in all manner of thicknesses and softness. SFI rating is usually for a specific place in the raced vehicle. Dash pads are harder then knee pads, which are softer then areas protecting the helmet.

Chinese knock-offs usually don't put the fire retardant or UV protection. This is why we wrapped pads back in the day - plumbing pipe-insulation doesn't have UV protection and would start to flake after just a few times out. Vinyl wrap (aka electrical tape) does have UV protection.... now? I wrapped mine for longevity and style but honestly, unless you're rubbing against it you don't need to wrap true roll bar padding.

You previously stated that no company offers both SFI and non. In this statement you then say it has nothing to do with product variation.

So... explain this:
JAZ Roll Bar Padding | JEGS

Same length, style, thickness, same brand, nearly the same price... yet 1 is manufactured as SFI and one isn't.


You can have this debate all day, but if you can get a certified safety product at the same or minimal increase over non certified, it almost makes no sense to buy the non certified.

The Allstar certified I bought were about $20/ea.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

But don't bother buying the SFI rated pad. SFI is like UL ratings, a private company that makes money telling you what you already know... in fact, most reputable manufacturers sell either or. It's like 1/3 the price for non SFI.

Not sure what you read....

clicking your link - non-SFI is $5.00 less then SFI cert. $5.00 on a 30.00 item is 18ish percent on your hand-picked item. you're busting my balls over 12 percent? seriously?