That is what I use in my cruiser. 304,000 miles (489,000 km) on it and when I do a 5,000 mile oil change the oil still has a caramel color to it. I buy 5quart jugs of the oil at Walmart for about $25.
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I've done two oil changes since picking my '98 up. I had about nothing as far as history and dove in using M1 Synth. First change I went M1 filter, second I went OEM. Coming up on my third and just pulled the trigger on Amsoil at the same time as getting gear oil. Went with their OE type motor oil to start, and I may slowly move up to their Signature Series, but I'll see. OEM filter is what I'll most likely keep using, or go Wix.
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Whoa, the Severe Gear oil is now in a baggie! I haven't used Amsoil since my 4th Gen 4Runner days. With the 100, i'm sticking to easily/quickly available fluids.
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So I went to pick up the mobile 1 full syenthic high mileage and they told me it’s not available anymore. They didn’t have any on the racks either.
Anyways now Im leaning towards Quaker state which is on sale. However it’s API grade SN and my manual says to use API grade SL which I believe is older and SN is just newer.
Using an API grade SN should be fine eh?
Anyways now Im leaning towards Quaker state which is on sale. However it’s API grade SN and my manual says to use API grade SL which I believe is older and SN is just newer.
Using an API grade SN should be fine eh?
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Hi, in my 2002 with 110K I only use Royal Purple 5W-30 synthetic.
Mobil 1 (since 24,000 miles when i bought it) and with 212,000 miles, it still takes the same amount without a drop of burning oil. My understanding is, regardless of what oil you use, change it after 5000-7500 miles especially if it's a stop and go city driving.
The only way to know for 100% how long any motor oil lasts is to have it tested by a lab. Which you can have done for about $35. You send them. Aused oil sample, they analyze it and tell you when you should change your oil as long as you use the oil sampled in that engine.
And yes, you can use any oil you want without any problems as long as you change it before it wears out. You can use the cheapest dollar store oil you can find and still get 300k out of your engine as long as you change the oil before it wears out. All of the engine wear happens after the oil is no longer doing it’s job. To maximize money you want to run your oil right to the point of wearing out and then change it.
But obviously there is no way to know for sure when that is for the average consumer, so mileage is used.
I would not change it sooner than 5,000 miles using a full synthetic and I would not go over 10,000 miles no matter the oil used. Unless you had a sample tested and they said you could go longer.
Just remember though, the drive shafts still need to be lubed sooner rather than later. So if you’re going 12,000 miles on a oil change your drive shafts still need to be lubed between every oil change.
Another thought about this already over-thought issue.. 
.. over the forty years I've been driving and owning cars, I ran the usual evolutionary gamut; as a young broke kid I used the cheapest oil I could buy, didn't change it frequently enough, and drove old cheap cars that I maintained poorly. None of the them lasted very long. Got a bit older and wiser, but not much richer. Started using better oil (still dino oil back then), sticking to 3000 mile oil changes, and doing routine scheduled maintenance. Amazing. All of a sudden my cars lasted a LOT longer; 100K was no longer an unattainable goal, it was business as usual. Another decade went by.. better cars (still old and used, but better), and Castrol Syntec/Edge/Whatever-they're-calling-it-these-days every 5000 miles... even in the cars whose manuals said 7500 - 12,000 mile intervals were fine. Haven't gotten less than 250K trouble free miles out of anything in recent history. A few years ago I moved over to Liqui (Lubro?) Moly at a very respected mechanic friend's suggestion, figuring it can't hurt and might help a bit. STILL stick to 5000 mile oil change intervals though, not because the oil won't last longer than that, but because, no matter what oil you use, it gets dirty. Oil changes not only make sure you have high quality, functioning oil in your engine, but also remove dirt and deposits. Even if your oil was good for 12,000 miles, and some of this very high quality stuff may very well do that, it'll have 12,000 miles worth of suspended dirt and deposits in it. Changing every 5000 miles is dirt cheap insurance, pun intended.
.. over the forty years I've been driving and owning cars, I ran the usual evolutionary gamut; as a young broke kid I used the cheapest oil I could buy, didn't change it frequently enough, and drove old cheap cars that I maintained poorly. None of the them lasted very long. Got a bit older and wiser, but not much richer. Started using better oil (still dino oil back then), sticking to 3000 mile oil changes, and doing routine scheduled maintenance. Amazing. All of a sudden my cars lasted a LOT longer; 100K was no longer an unattainable goal, it was business as usual. Another decade went by.. better cars (still old and used, but better), and Castrol Syntec/Edge/Whatever-they're-calling-it-these-days every 5000 miles... even in the cars whose manuals said 7500 - 12,000 mile intervals were fine. Haven't gotten less than 250K trouble free miles out of anything in recent history. A few years ago I moved over to Liqui (Lubro?) Moly at a very respected mechanic friend's suggestion, figuring it can't hurt and might help a bit. STILL stick to 5000 mile oil change intervals though, not because the oil won't last longer than that, but because, no matter what oil you use, it gets dirty. Oil changes not only make sure you have high quality, functioning oil in your engine, but also remove dirt and deposits. Even if your oil was good for 12,000 miles, and some of this very high quality stuff may very well do that, it'll have 12,000 miles worth of suspended dirt and deposits in it. Changing every 5000 miles is dirt cheap insurance, pun intended.Another thought about this already over-thought issue..
Thats what the high quality oil filter does... filter oil.
True, but no filter is 100% effective, and I sure wouldn't trust any filter to keep your oil pristine for 12,000 miles. Dirt goes SOMEWHERE, and degrades performance of SOMETHING.. your filter, your oil, your engine... something. Why leave it in there? Best case scenario, you have a great filter that has removed all the dirt from your oil, but is no longer working as well as it did when you installed it.
Like I said, this is over-thought. I change my oil/filter every 5k on all my cars and sleep great. I won't buy an expensive new or low mileage car, (with one exception, I've never paid more than $15K for any vehicle), so saving up, buying a quality old car, then caring for it as best I can for ten or more years is how we roll. If others aren't in the same boat, or disagree, or just like buying new cars, or have a stable of EarthRoamers/Porsches/AMGBenz that they like to turn over every year because they can afford to, and sleep well, that's fine too. So is changing your oil whenever you think is right, no matter what that is or who you are. Whatever you decide to do, that's right for you. I just said what's right for me, that's all.
So trying to add to an older thread instead of creating my own...
At the risk of getting roasted - has anyone tried the AmazonBasics brand? It has all of the same certs as Mobil 1 and I just watched a test someone ran and it looks to perform just as well as Mobil 1.
I'd love to hear if anyone has any personal experience with it.
At the risk of getting roasted - has anyone tried the AmazonBasics brand? It has all of the same certs as Mobil 1 and I just watched a test someone ran and it looks to perform just as well as Mobil 1.
I'd love to hear if anyone has any personal experience with it.
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I'm going to throw out some things I can't fully back up...
- Mobil1 apparently went the way of a zombie brand, their stuff isn't nearly as good as it used to be and they are coasting off the name. idk who bought them?
- AmazonBasics is rebranded *something* i don't remember which, but @CruiseLanderAZ is pretty him with the current stuff, what say you Josh?
I still use Mobil1 because I am cheap and I can get a box of full syth from costco for reasonable moneys.
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These 4.7 motors are easy on oil, use any 5W30 oil (dino or synthetic) you want. Mobil 1 is dirt cheap when they have their rebates, ~11 bucks for 5 quart jug after rebate.
Use the old grease from a Tim Horton's fryer. That ought to do it.
The Rotella gas engine 5w30 (red jug) is cheap, widely available, and great. That's my go-to now.
Very enjoyable thread here - found this upon searching for info on Liqui Moly. Anyone have experience bringing their own oil (BYOO?) to an oil change place?
