OBA AOB Endless Air etc. options for diesel 80's

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12V Air compressor motor vs. belt driven compressor. The belt driven ones seems to last decades with almost no maintenance! Replacement is super simple and cheap at any rate, it's getting it installed initially that's the hard part of all this...but only because no one makes a friggin stupid bracket!
 
Fair enough. Some of the trips I've taken with groups I chuckle at how many times they stop to air down and up. Like, if we're hitting 10 miles of dirt it's time to air down. Then 10 miles of pavement and it's time to air up. Rinse and repeat. Shrug.

I've never actually timed how long it takes me with my 12v compressor to get all 4 from 15-20 psi back up the 35 but I'd guess it's in the 15 min range. Usually I'm just basking in the enjoyment of a good run and inspecting the truck while the tires air up.

What compressor are you currently using for airing up?
 
What compressor are you currently using for airing up?

I don't recall exactly and am away from my rig but pretty sure it's this one.

 
Recently I did a 37 fill test
Brand new Viair 450 8 1/2 minutes for 0 - 50psi
10 year old Puma under 5 minutes 0 - 50psi

With a ton of rigs running 37's and up there is a need for hi performance air.


We are also a distributor for Extreme Outback and arguably the fastest 12/24V compressor available and a belt driven compressor will easily beat it.
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I used to live 1.5 miles from the Outback Extreme company, he is a nice guy. I have the magnum and am very pleased with it. The fact that it can safely be mounted under the rear of the vehicle, where the spare was originally, without being adversely affected by the elements is a huge plus as this means it takes no precious cargo space and doesn't over crowd the engine bay.

Like @EvanD, while my 37's inflate from 12psi to 28-40 depending on load, meaning 2-3 minutes per tire, I give the 80 an underside inspection, eat a sandwich and stretch the old muscles out.

People were using A/C compressors long ago before a good 12/24V compressor was ever conceived. There is a reason we now have good electric compressors. I believe this is because they are less complicated to add onto any rig, they don't need to clutter the engine bay and, 99% of the off-road community has no need for the amount of air a belt driven pump will provide.
 
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I don't recall exactly and am away from my rig but this or possibly a slightly lower model (I don't remember it costing 200).


Although Viair makes a nice product with a 33% duty cycle you get a lot of time to reflect on the run and admire your truck when airing up. In the end if you are happy and it works for you then its perfect!
 
Although Viair makes a nice product with a 33% duty cycle you get a lot of time to reflect on the run and admire your truck when airing up. In the end if you are happy and it works for you then its perfect!

Yea I'm not saying it's perfect. Nor have I ever spent the time to actually understand what duty cycle really means/how I should treat it differently.

All I know is, as I said, it's 15 min or less to take my 35s from 15 to 35 psi. It probably (and sadly) only gets used 15-20 days a year. If I'm supposed to be resting the thing at some point, oops. 🤣

Edit - curiosity got me to actually read the manual (online). Still don't know what duty cycle really is but it shuts off automatically if it's overloaded. It's never done that so I consider myself in the clear! (One of these days I'll figure out where the flipoff emoji exists on my phone).

Appreciate the insight into the possible option discussed here. Good to know if my needs ever change!
 
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I used to live 1.5 miles from the Outback Extreme company, he is a nice guy. I have the magnum and am very pleased with it. The fact that it can safely be mounted under the rear of the vehicle, where the spare was originally, without being adversely affected by the elements is a huge plus as this means it takes no precious cargo space and doesn't over crowd the engine bay.

Like @EvanD, while my 37's inflate from 12psi to 28-40 depending on load, meaning 2-3 minutes per tire, I give the 80 an underside inspection, eat a sandwich and stretch the old muscles out.

People were using A/C compressors long ago before a good 12/24V compressor was ever conceived. There is a reason we now have good electric compressors. I believe this is because they are less complicated add on to any rig, they don't need to clutter the engine bay and, 99% of the off-road community has no need for the amount of air a belt driven pump will provide.

All true and why I use electric. If my Puma ever dies I will upgrade to the Magnum.
Our belt driven OBA is for the diesel guys not 1FZ. There is a demand maybe not huge but with all the larger tires the need is increasing. If I did this to make money I would make parts for jeeps.:flipoff2:
 
York 210 + AC on 1HD-T

Pics are gone, @asutherland might still have them?

Re-installed the 210 in the new cruiser with a new clutch, change of oil, and new plumbing and wiring. Man, did I ever miss my 30-45 sec fills! :D
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Bit of a thread bump but just trying to gauge if there’s any interest for a York 210 conversion kit for a 1HDT/1HZ 80 series which retains the aircon compressor?

Im just in the process of building a kit for my 80 series....
Cheers
Did you ever make a kit? I’m looking for a bracket that retains the AC compressor and will work with a 1HZ-T. Thanks
 
I made 2 “kits” for a couple of locals but to be honest it was a pretty time consuming thing to make... i found the biggest issue was stuff moving as it was welded. Just means it takes a lot of time to get perfect, and not many people want to spend the money i have to charge on “a simple steel bracket” that would make it worth my effort.

On my 1HDFT I also changed the design and put the York compressor where the alternator goes, then fitted a LS1 alternator to the top of the motor. That way I got a cheap 140amp alternator upgrade and as it’s up high much less chance of failure. Was a fair bit of work, but works brilliantly....
 
YES!!!!! That's pretty damn elegant, nice work: A flat plate to attach to the York to the block, then another flat plate to attach the AC compressor (with some goofy angled spacers which I'm sure were really easy to figure out/weld). You've got the stock adjustment pulley in there, and it looks like you're using an old timing belt tensioner to make sure the AC path has enough bite with a little 90 deg angled plate to secure it. I just happened to be doing prelim research for my timing belt job so I recognized that part, brilliant man!!!!
 
YES!!!!! That's pretty damn elegant, nice work: A flat plate to attach to the York to the block, then another flat plate to attach the AC compressor (with some goofy angled spacers which I'm sure were really easy to figure out/weld). You've got the stock adjustment pulley in there, and it looks like you're using an old timing belt tensioner to make sure the AC path has enough bite with a little 90 deg angled plate to secure it. I just happened to be doing prelim research for my timing belt job so I recognized that part, brilliant man!!!!
Thanks. Went a couple different paths with pulleys but ultimately decided to keep it original possible so that it plays dual purpose. Finding an OEM belt will be the only hurdle.

BTW the angles were needed to clear for JUST in case you convert to 134a and just in case you go top mount intercooler. 😜
 
Do you think a front mount IC will be possible with your config? That's on my radar for sure.
 
@NLXTACY I'm working on my own version of this right now, would you mind throwing up a pic of your tensioner pulley design that's in front of the timing case? I would have waited for your kit but I needed to do my timing belt, replace my radiator, and my AC high pressure line developed a leak so the other repairs lined up too perfectly to wait! Quite a project, that's for sure.......
 
Almost there! I will post a full writeup once I get the new AC lines and have everything 100% complete.

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Here's my full install thread!

@NLXTACY Do you have those custom AC adapters?!? The AC line replacement has been a nightmare, but it does work with stock for now. Also, is there supposed to be an o-ring or something under your York inlet/outlet fittings?!?
 
Here's my full install thread!

@NLXTACY Do you have those custom AC adapters?!? The AC line replacement has been a nightmare, but it does work with stock for now. Also, is there supposed to be an o-ring or something under your York inlet/outlet fittings?!?
 

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