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I know it's an unpopular opinion - but Lexus had it right with the mouse. It was the best design of any car I've owned for interface with the infotainment. The problem is that it takes a few days of driving with it to get used to it. Once you do - it's exactly how it should be. Same reason the mouse has been around for decades now as the default input device for computers. It always got a bad rap by journalists who have a 30 minute experience and don't provide a real world type review as they would if they owned one for a while. Lexus engineers knew it was better. But they couldn't get past the negativity from the "experts".
OH man, we had an NX300h and i HATED the trackpad. I could use it, but I just felt like it was such an overdesign, and I really don't like having to click the pad. I like a selector that twists in a circle, moves directionally U/D/L/R, and presses in for selection (like the Mazda control I attached). It's more tactile sort of like a volume knob compared to a touchscreen. I also think Lexus has some pretty shabby U/I in general for their infotainment compared to other vehicles I've driven. Feels like it's design is 10 years behind everyone else, and the trackpad just wasn't working for me. They tried to hard to be unique over ergonomics and simplicity of use IMO.
 


Shocked the TMC lawyers allowed the remote start to keep running even after the door is opened; hope this continues to production.
 
OH man, we had an NX300h and i HATED the trackpad. I could use it, but I just felt like it was such an overdesign, and I really don't like having to click the pad. I like a selector that twists in a circle, moves directionally U/D/L/R, and presses in for selection (like the Mazda control I attached). It's more tactile sort of like a volume knob compared to a touchscreen. I also think Lexus has some pretty shabby U/I in general for their infotainment compared to other vehicles I've driven. Feels like it's design is 10 years behind everyone else, and the trackpad just wasn't working for me. They tried to hard to be unique over ergonomics and simplicity of use IMO.
I wasn't a fan of the track paid either. I love the original mouse version. There's some sort of magic that happens inside the mouse button thing that is has magnetic or ?? devices inside that sort of "snap" to the right locations as you move between icons. And then it self re-centers and has buttons for your thumb on the side to select whatever you are doing. It's super easy to select and change whatever you want regardless of the road conditions without ever looking down at what you're doing. And the other part I liked about it is that the screen was under a cover so it never had glare or reflection on it. I'm cool with a regular touch screen - I like Tesla and Ford versions that have big easy to reach screens. I just found the mouse version to be my favorite so far. I could probably live with any.

I also agree that Lexus tends to be a generation behind on the UI. In the case of my Gen2 Tundra it feels like it's 20 years old because the software probably is. Same system as the LC200. At the end of the day it plays the music I want and gives me a map that I almost never use. So, I guess it's as functional as it needs to be.
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I wasn't a fan of the track paid either. I love the original mouse version. There's some sort of magic that happens inside the mouse button thing that is has magnetic or ?? devices inside that sort of "snap" to the right locations as you move between icons. And then it self re-centers and has buttons for your thumb on the side to select whatever you are doing. It's super easy to select and change whatever you want regardless of the road conditions without ever looking down at what you're doing. And the other part I liked about it is that the screen was under a cover so it never had glare or reflection on it. I'm cool with a regular touch screen - I like Tesla and Ford versions that have big easy to reach screens. I just found the mouse version to be my favorite so far. I could probably live with any.

I also agree that Lexus tends to be a generation behind on the UI. In the case of my Gen2 Tundra it feels like it's 20 years old because the software probably is. Same system as the LC200. At the end of the day it plays the music I want and gives me a map that I almost never use. So, I guess it's as functional as it needs to be.
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I’ve never even seen that mouse design, I like it! I wouldn’t mind that at all
 
Unfortunately the ladder stops you from opening the back window. That would be my only gripe with the design. I think I'd prefer to just have enough stuff to clamber up (maybe tire to hanging ladder on side), but I'm still somewhat spry...

Had not thought about the window but you're right.
 
The 460s have an aftermarket folding ladder option if you're into that sort of thing. Allows you to use the popout rear window. They will probably make it for the 250?

 
The 460s have an aftermarket folding ladder option if you're into that sort of thing. Allows you to use the popout rear window. They will probably make it for the 250?

I bet they’ll make that for the 250. I expect that there will be many ladder options for the 250.

We’ll likely pick up a base 250 once a campteq or similar pop-top is available for it, replacing our 80 series camper with what would be a modern version of the same configuration… Which’ll require a sturdy, comfy rear hatch ladder.
 
On a vehicle with a 6ish foot roof - I can reach the roof from the ground. I don't think I've ever seen anyone climb a ladder on any overland vehicle with the exception of sprinter vans or similar with a very tall roof or an actual safari rig that has a large full width rack that requires you to get on top to access it. On a vehicle with a roof that's no more than maybe 4 feet wide only 6 feet high - I'd pass on the ladder. I'll stand on a tire or slider if I need to, or just on the ground.

I'm a fan of Toyota's OEM steps on the LC200 that work with a step on the racks. Small, unobtrusive, light weight, and functional if you need it. Maybe it's just too early, but I'm not really seeing this kind of small attention to detail in offering functional stuff that we used to see from Toyota. Maybe they weren't popular enough?
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I’ve always liked those for rack access; sturdy, elegant solution.
 
Most of you complaining don’t buy new cars anyway…..y’all are like me and wait for a few years of depreciation

Which means Toyota isn’t targeting you…..
 
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Though I wouldn't do those specific things to one I owned, I like seeing how much some aftermarket touches would completely change the personality of the vehicle. I really hope the front bumper plastics, headlights, mirrors, etc... are as easy to customize as these concepts would need them to be. Opens up a whole host of possibilities
 
These are fantastic!! This should be the new 4Runner. If that top came off like a gen1 - buyers would be lined up around the block. I would be on the phone with my buddy that owns a dealership to get in line for the first one. I like the LC250, but not enough to pay MSRP+ to get an early one. If this were the 4Runner or LC250 with a top that came off - I'd do it.
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