Help with lift

[Masud]

Im just a noobie that wants to lift his fzj80 and would like some guidance. I would like to do a 3 inch lift as easy as that sound is it actually that easy if I buy the old man emu 3 inch lift kit from amazon or whoever sells them the cheapest? Also I have no clue if I will need to do castor correction. Can you guys share what you think about this. Thank you

 

[stock]

First, do a search on the upper right side of this site. This question has been talked about plenty, you will get all your answers.

Second, search some of the vendors on this site, they can often match or come within a few dollars of those prices and you will be helping out a local guy instead of a ginormous, faceless company.

 

[tominboise]

I would plan on having to correct castor with a 3" lift. I did the slee bushings but there are drop brackets and such that would also do the trick.

 

[jfz80]

Every truck is built different and used differently. One mans solution may not work for another. Put down the internet for a second and pick up the phone

Cruiser Outfitters

Talk to these guys and tell em about your truck and its typ use and they will sort you out.

You still got to intall it so a little more than adding to cart. Chime in with your local clubhouse and order up some beer and pizza bribery. Install isnt hard but a second set of hands is nice. Esp first time

2.5" or under get castor bushings
3" or more get castor plates

 

[Hornd]

What tires and oil you running?

 

[Lumpskie]

Nice looking rig! Like others have said, call one of the vendors here and they can help you with spring rate associated with your lift. I'm guessing that the 3" kit is the same kit that I know as the 2.5" OME kit but I'm not sure) Just one thing to note... the picture you show above includes castor correction bushings. (I'm guessing that the 3" kit is the same kit that I know as the 2.5" OME kit but I'm not sure)

 

[LandCruisinMy93]

OME 3 inch should be easy enough to install by yourself if that is what you're asking. Castor shouldn't be too far out with only 3" of lift. However, it's smart to have correction on hand. If you do need correction you can either do the correction plates on the axle which are recommended over bushings because the bushings will wear out much quicker due to being eccentric and having less material on one side. You could also do drop brackets at the frame to correct it. Ultimately it is up to you where you want clearance which should be dictated more or less by the way you use your vehicle. If you're mall crawling and don't get into big rocks and when you do go out, drop brackets may be the way to go. If you must run into rocks and you do more trails than your average mall crawled then you would want plates. Hope this helps clarify anything you may run into while using search.

 

[Masud]

What tires and oil you running?

Tires are firestone M/T 285/70/17 and the oil Mobil 10w-30 advanced full synthetic

 

[Farrell Martin]

I have now installed lifts on 2 early Broncos, a CJ7 and my fj80 - the fj80 was hands down the easiest to install. There are several solutions to caster correction and they are all rather easy as well.

 

[Heckraiser]

Yes, you will need/want caster correction. IMO, the yellow OME bushings are inadequate for a 3" lift, I would look into man-a-fre drop brackets or landtank brackets (not currently available, but in production) instead of the yellow bushings. Or there are other bushings on the market that might work. There are also trunion bearings that can be used to dial in some caster. Lots of options here, so do your research.

3" lift means different things to different people. There are tons of options with dual-rate springs, progressive rate springs, or constant-rate springs in various rates and stiffness. If you do go with OME, keep in mind that they do not sit level unless you have a ton of weight in the back. To get a level lift, pair a taller front spring with a shorter rear spring (eg: 850J front with 863 rear or 850 front with 860 rear).

Finally, it would behoove you to purchase from a reputable vendor who can answer your questions over the phone and get you properly set up, offer customer service if any problems arise. Don't try to save a buck by buying the cheapest thing you can find on amazon, it will not work out so well. I recommend @cruiseroutfit or @sleeoffroad

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Yes, you will need/want caster correction. IMO, the yellow OME bushings are inadequate for a 3" lift, I would look into man-a-fre drop brackets or landtank brackets (not currently available, but in production) instead of the yellow bushings. Or there are other bushings on the market that might work. There are also trunion bearings that can be used to dial in some caster. Lots of options here, so do your research.

3" lift means different things to different people. There are tons of options with dual-rate springs, progressive rate springs, or constant-rate springs in various rates and stiffness. If you do go with OME, keep in mind that they do not sit level unless you have a ton of weight in the back. To get a level lift, pair a taller front spring with a shorter rear spring (eg: 850J front with 863 rear or 850 front with 860 rear).

Finally, it would behoove you to purchase from a reputable vendor who can answer your questions over the phone and get you properly set up, offer customer service if any problems arise. Don't try to save a buck by buying the cheapest thing you can find on amazon, it will not work out so well. I recommend @cruiseroutfit or @sleeoffroad

We (Cruiser Outfitters) would love to help! We stock a variety of caster options from bearings to bushings to plates. Give us a ring!

 

[bloc]

Yes you will need caster correction, it is simple geometry. Lift an 80 and the front axle will rotate forward. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't understand how suspension is supposed to work.

Any of the poly bushings won't last as long as OEM or tjm rubber.

 

[Tallyho74]

Quick thread hit. I just got the OME 2.5" Heavy front/medium rear kit from Slee and I plan on using the bushings. I thought the OME kit came with spacers for the spring or a pad? I can't remember where I saw that and it's not listed in the kit but I could have sworn you need to install them.

Edit - Cruiser Outfitters was awesome to talk with and order from when I picked up my knuckle rebuild kit. Bought the OME kit from Slee. I don't think you can go wrong with either!!

 

[gnarlytoes]

Go with drop brackets or the "washer mod" instead of offset bushings.

 

[DirtScaresMe]

There was a thread on here with a guy who was knee deep in problems from a 2.5 emu lift. If he could go backwards, he said he would have done the shocks/coils first with no other modifications and then done the castors later if need be.

There are some people up above saying "every trucking and driving style is different" along with "you absolutely need castors and anyone who says different is high". I don't know enough to really parse that, but I'd opt for making little changes and seeing how that affects things so if you get weird results you can isolate what caused them. My $0.02.

 

[GW Nugget]

The Icon 3" is the biggest bang for the buck right now for a complete kit. You get dual rate coils which is better than single rates.

 

[Masud]

Thanks for all your inputs I appreciate it

 

[richardlillard1]

You get dual rate coils which is better than single rates.

Please note that this is an opinion and not based on fact in any way.

 

[GW Nugget]

Please note that this is an opinion and not based on fact in any way.

Well, you speak from an opinion also... In my opinion this is the only thing single rate coils are good for...