From 100 to 250?

[Jetboy]

Tacoma track width unfortunately isn't what it seems and is explained here.

I assume that the reason why the lengths are different is simply because pickups, by nature, are pretty modular. Put this here cab with that there bed on this length chassis and you can have several different trucks with only a few different cabs and beds.

Oh my. That's super lame from Toyota. It's really bizarre. Toyota has development resources to build two different frames to have leaf and coil springs and at least 3 axles in rear and IIRC 3 different brake sizes, but can't build a proper wide track suspension for the 3 trims that make up 50% of sales? Very disappointing. And probably drives poorly with the offset wheels.

It's even more curious why when the tundra oem front suspension lift kit is very comprehensive and reasonably priced. But they won't put in even basic effort on the taco models?

 

[Brown98LC]

Oh my. That's super lame from Toyota. It's really bizarre. Toyota has development resources to build two different frames to have leaf and coil springs and at least 3 axles in rear and IIRC 3 different brake sizes, but can't build a proper wide track suspension for the 3 trims that make up 50% of sales? Very disappointing. And probably drives poorly with the offset wheels.

It's even more curious why when the tundra oem front suspension lift kit is very comprehensive and reasonably priced. But they won't put in even basic effort on the taco models?

ha, let them fix the rear LC70 track width first. We have been waiting 16 years LOL.

 

[Phillyd2]

 

[Land Caesar]

That guys is a goof

I listen to him , like I listen to the news.

Very selectively and with a laugh most often.

 

[Phillyd2]

That guys is a goof

I listen to him , like I listen to the news.

Very selectively and with a laugh most often.

That's smart. Like most do with the news, it's best to ignore and dismiss anything that doesn't agree with what people feel and want to be so. There's enough marketing dogma to watch instead proclaiming everything the most awesome!

Next time I'll add a trigger warning

 

[Land Caesar]

That's smart. Like most do with the news, it's best to ignore and dismiss anything that doesn't agree with what people feel and want to be so. There's enough marketing dogma to watch instead proclaiming everything the most awesome!

Next time I'll add a trigger warning

You’re to smart for me, because I don’t know what your last post was implicating.

Perhaps intuitively stating that ones perception delegates the opinions stated by news organizations and that they have no narrative.


Anyway…
That 250 4x4 is awesome

 

[Phillyd2]

You’re to smart for me, because I don’t know what your last post was implicating.

Perhaps intuitively stating that ones perception delegates the opinions stated by news organizations and that they have no narrative.


Anyway…
That 250 4x4 is awesome

Too

 

[Jstawgn]

This video are full of inaccurate assumptions. I love KDSS but understand it's limitation too.

Flex with front swaybar disconnect while keeping rear sway are usually pretry good. It's not proven that it would flex less.

On the other hand a lot of rear long travel makes the vehicle handle like a dog peeing. Looks impressive but very tippy balance wise.

The biggest advantage of KDSS is on road handling. It would feel much tighter on road.
Second benefit is balance between front and rear flex. I run slightly longer rear shock and relocate KDSS swaybar up a bit and it was major improvements off road.

 

[Land Caesar]

Too

Ur 2 ….. well, I’ll just let that b

 

[TWILLY]

I'm glad the 1958 will be available without KDSS or a sway bar disconnect; needless complexity.

 

[APIOQM]

I'm glad the 1958 will be available without KDSS or a sway bar disconnect; needless complexity.

It will be neat to compare the articulation with and without SDM. I guess theoretically it would be the same in the rear.

 

[joebelth8mud]

I have a 2006 100 Series in very good condition inside and out. It has lots of recent preventative maintenance using genuine Toyota parts such as full grain leather seat covers and seat foam from Landcruiser Heaven, all new AHC accumulators, both front CV axles, rear axle bearings and seals, front and rear brake pads and rotors, and all new fluids. Maintenance records (mostly dealer serviced) go back at least 10 years. It has 240,000 miles, but the condition is great, it’s super comfortable, and feels like a much newer vehicle.

The issue I have is we just picked up a new Land Rover Defender 130, which was intended to take over for the Landcruiser, AND this new GX550 looks like it will be a very solid vehicle. Am I nuts to consider parting with the 100 Series for the GX550?

 

[flyfish4life]

Trade the Defender asap

 

[joebelth8mud]

Trade the Defender

The Defender 130 drives and feels much like a European sedan. Maybe it’s the four wheel independent air suspension and aluminum unibody construction, but our first 1,000 miles have been very comfortable. We purchased the Defender 130 because it was almost the identical size of the 100 Series, tows 8,200lbs, and we wanted to take our Airstream out West over the Rockies. The Landcruiser would most likely struggle at altitude.

We looked at a 2021 LX570, but it didn’t drive any different than the 100 Series and the tech was a decade old…for $85,000. Value for money wasn’t there since we already had the 100.

 

[UZJ100LC]

I have a 2006 100 Series in very good condition inside and out. It has lots of recent preventative maintenance using genuine Toyota parts such as full grain leather seat covers and seat foam from Landcruiser Heaven, all new AHC accumulators, both front CV axles, rear axle bearings and seals, front and rear brake pads and rotors, and all new fluids. Maintenance records (mostly dealer serviced) go back at least 10 years. It has 240,000 miles, but the condition is great, it’s super comfortable, and feels like a much newer vehicle.

The issue I have is we just picked up a new Land Rover Defender 130, which was intended to take over for the Landcruiser, AND this new GX550 looks like it will be a very solid vehicle. Am I nuts to consider parting with the 100 Series for the GX550?

Why don’t you just keep all three

 

[joebelth8mud]

Why don’t you just keep all three?

Hard to justify. I also have a Porsche 993, so technically that would make 4 vehicles, and we both full-time telecommute. We had a 2021 diesel Wrangler Rubicon before the Airstream, but once we needed a tow vehicle the Jeep would sit for a month without being used.

The driving dynamics between the Landcruiser 100 and new Defender is night and day, but considering current prices I won’t say the Defender feels remotely close to being 4X more vehicle. That’s a testament to the 100s quality.

I’d like to believe the GX550 would be a worthy successor to the 100 without taking a step backwards.

 

[elbarto]

The Defender 130 drives and feels much like a European sedan. Maybe it’s the four wheel independent air suspension and aluminum unibody construction, but our first 1,000 miles have been very comfortable. We purchased the Defender 130 because it was almost the identical size of the 100 Series, tows 8,200lbs, and we wanted to take our Airstream out West over the Rockies. The Landcruiser would most likely struggle at altitude.

We looked at a 2021 LX570, but it didn’t drive any different than the 100 Series and the tech was a decade old…for $85,000. Value for money wasn’t there since we already had the 100.

What makes you think the new 250 or gx550 would struggle towing at altitude any more than the 130? All are forced induction, so minimal power loss at altitude. Or do you mean the 100 would struggle at altitude?
Also the 130 is a fair bit larger than the 100, no?
No doubt the 130 rides good though. It better for a $90k+ vehicle

 

[joebelth8mud]

What makes you think the new 250 or gx550 would struggle towing at altitude any more than the 130? All are forced induction, so minimal power loss at altitude. Or do you mean the 100 would struggle at altitude?
Also the 130 is a fair bit larger than the 100, no?
No doubt the 130 rides good though. It better for a $90k+ vehicle

I don’t believe the GX550 would struggle because as you pointed out it’s a turbo, as well as the transmission having double the gears to keep things moving. The Defender 130 is turbo and electric supercharged, and has 406 lbs of torque off idle. Towing a 5500 pound 23 foot Airstream is effortless. Braking is substantially better as well. I wouldn’t expect any less from the GX550.

It’s the Landcruiser 100 I wasn’t going to take over the mountains. Not impossible, but its down 100 horsepower and torque over modern vehicles, and has half the gears to keep things within the power band. Being a mile high would not help.

The Defender 130 and Series 100 are pretty consistent size wise, which was a big factor towards our purchase. GX550 looks to duplicate that as well - it’s a size sweet spot.

LC100: L 192.5 in, W 76.38 in, H 74.41 in
D130: L 187.4 in, W 79.1 in, H 77.6 in
GX550: L 197 in, W 79 in, H 75.6 in

 

[nautiquelover]

I think your length on the Defender is wrong. The Defender 130 is a much larger car than the 100 series...but a quite a bit.

 

[Fiddy5000]

I think your length on the Defender is wrong. The Defender 130 is a much larger car than the 100 series...but a quite a bit.

Land Rover says 211 inches for the 130, and 187 for the 110.