For those of you with a tcase disc ebrake...

[Spook50]

How well does it work? If you were to reef up on the handle at a good amount of speed, would you feel the truck slow down significantly? If you have it set, what RPM can you get the engine up to, while in gear, before the truck will start moving?

And the most important one: can one be installed on a tcase that didn't originally come with a drum ebrake, or is it limited to only those that originally had/have a drum?

 

[Spook50]

No takers here?

 

[Tapage]

I was thinking in that option to my rear disc with e-brake conversion since my setup don't hold my Cruiser @ hill ..

At your question, maybe you aren't getting much answers since are not a bolt on kit for the 60 series to run a t-case e brake ...

But based in the MAF kit for 40 series, there is a cheap and easy option to make or adap it to suit our aplications.

 

[Cruiserdrew]

If not covered in oil, the t-case e-brake works very well. You need to adjust both the brake itself and the cable, but with that, it's solid. In fact, if you set the ebrake, then by mistake start up and let out the clutch, it will shear the bolts off the t-case and rotate the backing plate, ruinin most of the parts. This happened to one of my friends our first year at Rubithon, and I help him repair it once back at home.

Most of those e-brakes don't work because the rear seal has failed and they are soaked in oil.

 

[Tapage]

Your mate run it in a BF1A t-case .. ?

 

[rchalmers3]

.... In fact, if you set the ebrake, then by mistake start up and let out the clutch, it will shear the bolts off the t-case and rotate the backing plate, ruinin most of the parts.

Holy matrimony, batman!!! Was that a bad install or are the design and materials not sufficient for the loads?

That's bad news if it's common. Maybe a de-adjustment is the solution for too much clamping!

I once owned a FJ47L with a drum brake behind the T-case and It was more for looks than holding power. And a few times I replaced the seal to create a dry brake, but it didn't hold much better!

Rick

 

[Pighead]

In fact, if you set the ebrake, then by mistake start up and let out the clutch, it will shear the bolts off the t-case and rotate the backing plate, ruinin most of the parts.

Actually, I think that only happens when it's in low ratio...

I've only seen one disc-type parking brake in use. Owner said it sucked.

 

[Dynosoar]

How well does it work? If you were to reef up on the handle at a good amount of speed, would you feel the truck slow down significantly? If you have it set, what RPM can you get the engine up to, while in gear, before the truck will start moving?

And the most important one: can one be installed on a tcase that didn't originally come with a drum ebrake, or is it limited to only those that originally had/have a drum?

All of the "kits" I have seen come with a new output shaft that will give you the needed length for the brake gear. So, it's not just a bolt on type kit you have to disassemble the t-case and break down the gear stack. The stock drum on my '74 FJ40 held the 40 just fine when the t-case didn't leak on the shoes. Once I speedi sleeved the drum it was no problem.


Dynosoar

 

[Cruiserdrew]

Actually, I think that only happens when it's in low ratio...

I've only seen one disc-type parking brake in use. Owner said it sucked.

I should have said that. He was in low range when he did it. it sheared right off though, and wasn't even all that loud.

 

[Pighead]

Was this "friend" a trail leader on the Rubithon? And we disassemble both birfs, looking for the broken one before we saw the broken parking brake?

 

[Cruiserdrew]

Was this "friend" a trail leader on the Rubithon? And we disassemble both birfs, looking for the broken one before we saw the broken parking brake?

No, it was Marty Boersma. He did this on his 40 the first time through. He had to buy all new parts from SOR, and we basically installed everything, from cable to brake drum. Total PIA, but a good lesson.

 

[Spook50]

Actually, I think that only happens when it's in low ratio...

I've only seen one disc-type parking brake in use. Owner said it sucked.

Interesting. Was it on a 60 or a 40?

I ask because looking at TSM's site (and this is where I'm getting confused), they have different kits for 40 series and 60 series Cruisers, and the 40 series version looks like an actual conversion for drum type ebrakes, whereas and 60 series version looks like a kit for bolting the thing right onto the tcase, because IIRC no 60 series Cruisers didn't have a drum ebrake on the tcase from the factory, or did they? I had thought the driveline from the tcase back (aside from the lack of vacuum shifting) and the brakes were identical to 62 series Cruisers.

 

[Turtle60]

I think that maybe Tinker initiated the new disc ebrake kit that TSM has developed. They just got it going in the last 6 months I believe. He let them use the back half of my spare 1987 Tcase to mock up the bracket and was one of the first in line to get a bracket. I'm not sure that they have sold many of these, yet. Might check with Tinker to see if he installed his.

 

[Tapage]

ebrakes, whereas and 60 series version looks like a kit for bolting the thing right onto the tcase, because IIRC no 60 series Cruisers didn't have a drum ebrake on the tcase from the factory, or did they?.

No at least as far as I know 60 never come with t-case e-brake .. and I didn't found in the TSM site a t-case e-brake kit option fo us, tha sure would be another option to me ..

 

[Overlord]

According to the EPC, Toyota did produce a t'case drum parking brake for the split case on the 60 series for a few years.

 

[Turtle60]

TSM link

FJ 60 Land Cruiser

Here's the link. I think that's the back of my spare t-case in the picture. It's famous! And I somehow am a better person as a result, I'm sure of it. Famous by association, or something.

 

[Overlord]

FJ 60 Land Cruiser

Here's the link. I think that's the back of my spare t-case in the picture. It's famous! And I somehow am a better person as a result, I'm sure of it. Famous by association, or something.

What did you use for the parking brake cable? How do you like the setup? Have any pics of it installed on your 60?

 

[boots4]

Here is the link to TSM for the FJ60 tcase ebrake: FJ 60 Land Cruiser I must admit, I went there excited to see the kit but all they did was mount a disc to the flange and mount their mechanical caliper to the tcase and @ $330 just for that I'll make my own. I was hoping to see how they would attach the ebrake cable to keep it from moving and if they used any leverage on the mech. caliper like they do on the mini truck application. That leverage probably makes the ebrake hold pretty well. If they did all that then the price for me would be worth it.

Edit: looks like I was beat to the punch line.

 

[Overlord]

Here's some pics of sky-manufacturing setup for the mini's:

 

[boots4]

After looking at the sky-manufacturing one for the mini I'd be inclined to buy it and modify it to work with the 60 splitcase but my application may not allow the caliper to hang under the output so it's probably going to be buying parts and making my own brackets.