First Time Pig "Build"

[Delancy]

I'm gonna need the extra dome to show off the interior......I hope.

Will research further. I wouldn't have thought about interferences.

Y'all need to write a book.

 

[Delancy]

Met with Britt at the 'Sty, as it was his first viewing of the parts Pig, to which he stated a "major score".

Had to reiterate to him, and convince myself at the same time, that this Pigs purpose is sacrificial for the sake of the '72, after he questioned me several times "are you sure?"

No bondo on the rear quarters or corners and only a few pinholes in the lips. He said it was nice to see where metal lined up, as intended, opposed to where someone thought it did when sculpting bondo.

"Lid" is perfect and will be swapped to 72 (he really thought I should save it for the 76, but another thread). Will reinforced with supports from the 72 when swapping, but said there was no deformation and too good to not use, opposed to reworking the existing.

Intends to use the entire cargo floor and inner wheel wells, since they're in excellent shape and possibly the front pillars and windshield surround.

I've got to empty it and strip it by Monday so it can be moved to his place to be carved up as needed. I don't think I can get the engine pulled before, but going to try, because it may not return.

In talking to Britt candidly about the mistakes I made in the 72 selection, paying too much for the front clip, having more of his time invested than originally thought, he said its part of paying dues.

 

[Delancy]

Continued---won't let me edit.

And the experience will heighten the severe for future, but that the parts Pig was a very good investment for the sake of overall project quality.

I'm glad for the 72, but a tinge of remorse for the 71, as odd as it sounds.

 

[bobm]

Think anyway we go about it, the lower floor support (??. The piece that extends from pillar to pillar inside the tailgate opening at the bottom??) will have to be fabbed. QUOTE]


Chris, if his fab hours on this part are 2 high let me know. Was planning on adding it to the list eventually.

Thanks Bob.

 

[Delancy]

Bob,

How long for production time on your end?

Chris

 

[bobm]

Chris, things tight now. If you can send a cross-section from donor PIG we could speed up. Maybe week or 2. Sure Britt has plenty of other things to deal with on PIG. would thicker material (.060 crs) but same dimensions sound good? Would last longer.

Thanks Bob.

 

[Delancy]

Chris, things tight now. If you can send a cross-section from donor PIG we could speed up. Maybe week or 2. Sure Britt has plenty of other things to deal with on PIG. would thicker material (.060 crs) but same dimensions sound good? Would last longer.

Thanks Bob.

Will see which will cut out first and advise.

Even if it's determined that the donors is useable, will send the 72s, because it'd be another time saver for others, but I'd prefer dropping in a thicker replacement, personally.

We're moving at the speed of slow, but hopefully that'll improve now that the donor will be sitting there. Think that turnaround time would be faster than needed, but I'm prepared to wait to do it right.

Britt's bringing his roll back Monday, since the parts Pig doesn't roll well and he's a winch to load, so will ask what he wants and get with you.

I can guarantee you I will never undertake a project that's this deteriorated, but if others tear into one blindly as I did, thinking that this rear floor support (??) intermediate floor supports, and donor or fabbed ( which would be tricky ) fender lips would be nice to have.

Thanks for your efforts, Bob.

I know I'm not the only ignorant fool that'll wind up with a rotted starter, but these panels and patches do make it much lore feasible to fix and fix right, so there's hope for even the crustiest, if unavoidable.

Chris

Edited: if there's any thing else you need a sample of for potential panels, let me know and I'll get coming your way.

Thankfully, I don't think I'll need much on the 76, but one never really knows until carving.

 

[nuclearlemon]

here's the spare roof i've got.

 

[Delancy]

here's the spare roof i've got.

Wow. That looks pretty good from where I'm sitting.

Any differences from whatever year that's from and a 76?

 

[PabloCruise]

yes. also you can get extra domelight. search and there is a thread telling you which way to face the light support to keep it from interfering with the headliner bows (if you are planning on installing headliner)

It would need to go behind the factory rear roof support.
Chris, if you do this, think about your wiring. It is a 3 position switch, that means you can have on, off, and "other". The other could be slaved to the front light. That way,, any time you turn on the front light, the rear comes on. Make sense?

 

[PabloCruise]

here's the spare roof i've got.

That is nice!

 

[PabloCruise]

Chris, Britt is matching my thoughts when he asks if you are sure the '71 is the donor ans the '72 should be restored. Ay reason why not "cut your losses" (pun intended) on the '72 and make that donor to support the '71 resto?

The fewer things you have to cut and re-join, the better in my book.

Sounds like Ige is offering you a roof for your '76...

Anytime a guy with the experience you say Britt has asks "are you sure.", you should think about it...

 

[tucker74]

I say keep going, you've got the rockers done and have a plan. The donor is better but is bound to have its own issues. A sock resto should use the stock body IMO. Can't wait for the next update -

Tucker

 

[PabloCruise]

I was just basing my comments on the amount of cutting and splicing Chris was describing...

 

[Delancy]

It would need to go behind the factory rear roof support.

Thanks.

Make sense?

Yes. The hard part will be sourcing two domes in good condition.

Chris, Britt is matching my thoughts when he asks if you are sure the '71 is the donor ans the '72 should be restored.

The '71 offers its own share of challenges for a restoration in addition to the body work, primarily the F.5 swap, that's incomplete, anyway.

I realize petty, in the grand scheme if things, but the '72 does have correct F, based on production dates, and I value.......fully knowing no one else on the planet may.

I had shared with Britt the far off plan of the 71 being built as a wheeler, plus have boo-hoo'd about the expense of the unnecessary parts upon parts that I've bought, along with reservation about taking another one off the road, permanently, so his statement was more concerning that.

He's also very aware of the desire to keep as much of the '72 intact, as possible.

Ay reason why not "cut your losses" (pun intended) on the '72 and make that donor to support the '71 resto?

Is being bull headed, determined, stubborn, and stupid a good enough reason? Haha.

Honestly, I haven't given it a single thought, BUT since you brought up.

If I were going to cut losses, it'd be on both the 71 and 72 (I'm not, so don't worry) and invest everything into the '76.

The fewer things you have to cut and re-join, the better in my book.

I agree, to an extent.

With metal and an experienced fabricator, anything can be made whole, better, stronger, and appear original.

Thankfully these pages document all of our hard work and once I have all the pics Britt's taken (not just the quick iPhone pics) they should show the level of skill exhibited.

Hopefully, that'll be valued to by more than myself, from an appreciation of the Pig standpoint, since my intent is to let the kids worry about selling.

Sounds like Ige is offering you a roof for your '76...

And I'm stoked. Don't have to sacrifice either jobs quality, because of.

Anytime a guy with the experience you say Britt has asks "are you sure.", you should think about it...

I hear you there too.

Again, many considerations were a part of the question, but thinking the important one was being sure about chopping more of the OE '72 out, since wanting to keep as whole as possible, to avoid a Ship of Theseus conundrum.

Plus, every component that Toyota had in Japan for a Dec 72 build will be delivering to me today or Monday.

A trait or flaw, all dependent on circumstance, but once it's on, it's on.

Ask Onur how many times he asked me "are you sure" then proceeded to explain why my request was unnecessary, regarding the 80 "build".

He finally quit asking.

 

[Delancy]

I say keep going, you've got the rockers done and have a plan. The donor is better but is bound to have its own issues. A sock resto should use the stock body IMO. Can't wait for the next update -

Tucker

The donor arse end, roof, front clip IS better, better even than the front clip I paid three times more for to Cruiser Corps, but the balance isn't, by any stretch, and a shell swap isn't a real consideration for me, due to the same sentiments you expressed.

But, will still be sailing the high seas on the Ship of Theseus, any way you cut it.,...literally.

I was just basing my comments on the amount of cutting and splicing Chris was describing...

I understood and appreciate posing all questions, since I don't know what I'm doing, obviously, and only know the goal.

I believe that Britt's work on a bad day may be hard for the most experienced car buff to notice, so hopefully we can get it right, fully depict, and consider the aspirations as value added.

Only time will tell.

 

[Delancy]

My greater concern, considering the delayed completion of this phase, is the next stage and how winter approaching may play a role in the planned mechanical attention.

Besides the carb, NLA components, and engine rebuild parts, I believe I have most all necessary to complete.

Once Onur's invoices arrive, will detail out, organize, and post up to see what's still needed.

 

[bobm]

here's the spare roof i've got.

Can I have the sticker?

Thanks Bob.

 

[Delancy]

Can I have the sticker?

Thanks Bob.

It has to be earned.

Are you worthy?

Bahahaha.

 

[bobm]

It has to be earned.

Are you worthy?

Bahahaha.

OOOOHHHHHH I am more than worthy. When you gonna post Britts pics?


Thanks Bob.