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its not necessarily a bad platform although a little heavy. the only thing different on mine (other than no roof lol) is the 1 tons. im still running a basically stock suspension (3 link front), shocks, springs, all the stock steering linkage, stock track bars, and stock drive shafts (rear is 1/4" wall). i love the reliability of the stock drive train. ride with my group and ask the all the jeep guys whats left on theirs that is a factory jeep part.
 
Beno makes a very valid point. Every time I posted up photos of a new bumper or other product design "everyone" wanted it. Right up until they had to actually buy it. Any vendor that designs and produces their own products can tell you the same. I've literally had hundreds of people contact me about Vortec swaps in the last 6 months.
 
Nah not the same thing...
 
It's not that the 80 is a "bad platform", it's that most 80 owners choose not use it in a hardcore way.

Then those same owners that claim it's a "bad platform" come on here and bash those who actually wheel their rig hard on buggy trails. Like it's somehow inconceivable that people would want to use an 80 for hardcore trials and want to literally change everything about it to fill that role. I know I'm in the minority here but the condescension is tiring.
 
NCFJ said:
Beno makes a very valid point. Every time I posted up photos of a new bumper or other product design "everyone" wanted it. Right up until they had to actually buy it. Any vendor that designs and produces their own products can tell you the same. I've literally had hundreds of people contact me about Vortec swaps in the last 6 months.
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True statement..
 
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imho- its only recently that 80s are commanding such low prices that i think we are likely to see more people carving them up to make trail rigs. My last one cost me $600 and i see tons now under 2500-3000. The fact that theres so many of them out there........getting long enough in the teeth.......and getting REAL cheap.........i think we are going to see more dedicated trail 80s.
 
bugsnbikes said:
imho- its only recently that 80s are commanding such low prices that i think we are likely to see more people carving them up to make trail rigs. My last one cost me $600 and i see tons now under 2500-3000. The fact that theres so many of them out there........getting long enough in the teeth.......and getting REAL cheap.........i think we are going to see more dedicated trail 80s.
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Funny thing is in 10 years when there are none left, the 80 series section is going to be like the 40/55/6x sections on MUD with people begging and pleading for parts to make them run, or to restore them, or even just to get parts to pass emissions in states on the coasts ....

Irony has its way with the nature of that which is true.
 
No there aren't a lot of 80's out there. Cash for clunkers took care of that. I saw people cash in perfectly good 8o's and 450's. It was sad to see.
 
IIRC. The 55s were much lower import numbers. The 40s were much higher numbers
 
beno said:
Funny thing is in 10 years when there are none left, the 80 series section is going to be like the 40/55/6x sections on MUD with people begging and pleading for parts to make them run, or to restore them, or even just to get parts to pass emissions in states on the coasts ....

Irony has its way with the nature of that which is true.
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I think you have 84-89 4runner confused with 80?

These '80s' you speak of will never be anything but a monument for websites about cupholders til gone...

Seriously. I click on ih8mud twice a week and it's fawking cupholder madness. Forever and ever ???

If you google image search 'fj/fzj80'in ten years you're gonna get a thousand slurpy cup pics, no iconic awd solid axle land cruiser pics...

Good luck friend.
 
well maybe we can change the course of history if this doubler gets made! :)
 
Finnyfam60 said:
well maybe we can change the course of history if this doubler gets made! :)
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There'll be ten, maybe fifteen of us tops that'll run the doubler. Everyone else will bitch about having to beat the gas tank in with a hammer while searching for new cup holder and seat cover options.
 
mr jits said:
There'll be ten, maybe fifteen of us tops that'll run the doubler. Everyone else will bitch about having to beat the gas tank in with a hammer while searching for new cup holder and seat cover options.
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That would put $30000 to $45000 in the sellers pocket.
 
I spoke with NWF last week about the viability of using the black box as an adapter between a GM trans and Toyota split case in a Vortec swap. It is a viable alternative. if 4.0 gears are used in the T-case it gives your 4 distinct gear ratios. That is a huge benefit to a 6K lb truck that is asked to do a wide variety of tasks. It'll wind up running twice the cost of the adapter but seems more than worth the price increase.

I agree with mr jits, I doubt you will see more than a hand full in 80 series, odds are better to see more used in a swap circumstance rather than adding it to the stock drive line. More gears in your tool box is priceless.
 
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