NeverGiveUpYota
Dare me.
And please, ignore my dumb comments from previously. I was super clueless then.
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i've used this method on all my yotas. tire life? never tracked it as tires were swapped n traded around quite a bit. controlwise, yeah you knew you had 35's or larger on, but with everything else up to snuff, control was on par with a stock truck for the most part
there are really no dumb comments or questions when they come from newbs. but, when someone asks a question they've already asked n said they understand the answer, that's when i see red
morganism
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man page with tie rod arm lengths, but if the newer rods and TREs are diff lengths, how do we know where to center them?
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Drag link and tie rod end replacement.
I wand to replace all of the tie rod end and steering drag link items. Can someone break down what they are commonly referred to as? I see 5 pieces, but I can only find three on line with rock auto etc. Sent from my iPhone
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morganism
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that man page says to adjust tie rod length to 1267mm or 49.88 in.
How do you align the rear wheels?
string line, laser or any known straight edge along c/l of your truck frame. check both axles at wheel mount surface or c/l of spring perch to index c/l. that will let you know if the axles are centered across the longitude. next, find the c/l of the wheel base along the index c/l. from there, measure the diagonal to the c/l of axle at wheel mount surface on both sides, should be equal. i'm not sure what the factory +/_ is, but i'd be happy with 1/8". now if it's unacceptable, start checking mounting points. wallowed out bolt holes, broken centering pins, elongated center pin hole on the perch, loose u-bolts, baffed bushings, twisted spring hangers, bent spring shackles. repair as required
clear as mud right? any ?s, i'll try to answer them
NeverGiveUpYota
Dare me.
Rear wheels aren’t aligned. That’s why I said to ignore my post. The rear simply follow the front. Unless I’m still clueless.
I was trying to be stupid but apparently that was a valid question.
no, the rear wheels them selves are not aligned as to caster, camber or toe. the whole axle is squared to the front axle. yes, the rear will follow, but the closer you can get tire contact points to a perfectly square rectangle, the better handling n less wear + tear, namely tires
you quoted my comment so i took it as a legit ?. no worries mark n if it helps someone new to mechanized mayhem, namely these dinosaurs we enjoy, understand how some of this $h!t works, i'm cool with it
morganism
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Yup, Pythagoras was there.
Wish i could find my book, "the doorhangers bible", it had all the tricks for squaring stuff up....
Wish i could find my book, "the doorhangers bible", it had all the tricks for squaring stuff up....
On a land cruiser the only rear alignment is to make sure the axle is centered side to side or as indicated by the FSM, and that the axle is perpendicular to the frame. Its possible to have all 4 wheels aligned and have crooked offset axles. Some vehicles do have alignment options on the rear wheels...mostly to set toe and camber.
morganism
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I could not get the rod end centers all the way out to 1267mm. Ended up at 49.75, 1265 mm.
Evened both rims to the spring packs, got 10" on drivers side, 9 7\8 on pass. Then cranked in on the rod when both were hooked back up, 180, and got a 16th on the toe in.
Axle hanger to hubs seems 1/2 in diff on pass and drivers side.
Is close, looks nearly the same, but much easier turning.
Used a laser cross after dark, and just skimming rear wheels toward front, looks like drivers side camber is out more than pass.
Evened both rims to the spring packs, got 10" on drivers side, 9 7\8 on pass. Then cranked in on the rod when both were hooked back up, 180, and got a 16th on the toe in.
Axle hanger to hubs seems 1/2 in diff on pass and drivers side.
Is close, looks nearly the same, but much easier turning.
Used a laser cross after dark, and just skimming rear wheels toward front, looks like drivers side camber is out more than pass.
Excellent and simple procedure. Thanks!
kevin in okinawa
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I take off the tires and use measurements for the front and rear of the rotors, making the front measurement one-quarter inch* less than the rear = good toe-in adjustment.
* I have 37x12.5 tires. Exact amount of outset may be different from mine. 1/4” is my sweet spot.
* I have 37x12.5 tires. Exact amount of outset may be different from mine. 1/4” is my sweet spot.
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This DIY Toe Alignment Tool - https://www.tmrcustoms.com/collections/steering/products/diy-toe-alignment-tool plus a pair of tape measures (I went with metric) makes toe adjustment very easy.
Be careful with this... Yes, you can't hurt the bar, but you can pop the ball out of the joint. I did this and had brand new tie rod ends, was down to the last one, of course it was stuck, so I got a big pipe wrench with a cheater bar and wrenched on it so hard, it broke the brand new 555 drag link. Popped the ball out of the joint. With further inspection, it actually broke the metal in the joint so it was not repairable. Had to buy another new one from cruiser outfitters for $65... since the bar wasn't attached to anything anymore, I was able to put the bar in the vice and got it loose with some BP blaster. Pain the acehole
Skreddy
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Didn’t read the whole thread so sorry if it was already said.
I have the TMR plates like Godwin linked. I put the front wheels on top of heavy duty black garbage bags folded over and it helps the tires move smoothly while adjusting. Just fold the garbage bags until you get about a 1’ x 1’ square and center them under the tires. (For you metric guys, that’s about 1 balled up 9 banded armadillo).
I have the TMR plates like Godwin linked. I put the front wheels on top of heavy duty black garbage bags folded over and it helps the tires move smoothly while adjusting. Just fold the garbage bags until you get about a 1’ x 1’ square and center them under the tires. (For you metric guys, that’s about 1 balled up 9 banded armadillo).
