Thoughts on this, since the 250 series is basically some bs Toyota USA put together?
Did the LC200 just go up in value (more) after the 250 release? (1 Viewer)
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Clearly used 200-series values will triple.
I actually thing 200 series prices will drop. Hype and FOMO will kick in and a lot of folks here who say "never" will be buying them.
I expect 4Runner and LX/LC prices to drop as folks who are
A) current owners of the above jump ship to the newer shinier vehicle
B) Those who own a 4Runner or GX move to step up into the new Prado
We are an enthusiast group so us having our strong opinions on it does not affect the majority of consumers.
I for one cannot wait for late MY 200s series come down in price.
More people using 200s to wheel means more aftermarket interest or potential.
I like the new LC light that was announced and I think it is what everyone has been asking for. Minus the 4 cyl turbo. I am hoping during a refresh they will add a V6.
I expect 4Runner and LX/LC prices to drop as folks who are
A) current owners of the above jump ship to the newer shinier vehicle
B) Those who own a 4Runner or GX move to step up into the new Prado
We are an enthusiast group so us having our strong opinions on it does not affect the majority of consumers.
I for one cannot wait for late MY 200s series come down in price.
More people using 200s to wheel means more aftermarket interest or potential.
I like the new LC light that was announced and I think it is what everyone has been asking for. Minus the 4 cyl turbo. I am hoping during a refresh they will add a V6.
We should celebrate what Toyota is doing right in terms of 4WDs.
- Base model
- Rear locker standard
- Cloth seats
All of this will help bring more competition and hopefully we see more SUVs across all mfgs improve on their 4wd offerings.
- Base model
- Rear locker standard
- Cloth seats
All of this will help bring more competition and hopefully we see more SUVs across all mfgs improve on their 4wd offerings.
I expect it (and all the other new Toyota/Lexus 4x4s coming out soon) will reduce demand for the 200 series to a measurable degree, and thus drop resale value.
But whatever, I'm glad to see Toyota doing cool things for a change, and I didn't buy the 200 as an investment.
But whatever, I'm glad to see Toyota doing cool things for a change, and I didn't buy the 200 as an investment.
What is the 250? The “land cruiser” slated for US is of course the Prado, but the 250 looks like a different front end (not sure what else is different ?). Is it just a lower trim Prado to keep the starting price low?
Cloth seats in a $55,000+ car? That better be some gold strands in those cloth seats!
I rather have Toyota/Lexus NuLuxe pleather than cloth in an off-roader!! Cloth absorbs dirt and mud.
BUT I give Toyota credit for using FULL-TIME 4wd system rather than part-time that you see in 4runner and Sequoia.
Honestly think 200 value will be un affected or increase. It seats 8 albeit small people in the 3rd row
It will definitely take 4Runner sales
It will definitely take 4Runner sales
The price you mentioned is something I agree with. For the price point I expect better seats but I am glad there is an LC with cloth seats. Even if its a fake prado.
In that case I will sell mine right now for only twice what I paid for it. Don't miss out folks!
I posted this in the other thread but here it is again.
Might be just a coincidence, but few days ago Carmax had only 1 LC for sale, today, after LC250 (Prado) announcement, take a look:
edit: probably people cancelled their reserves / holds.
Might be just a coincidence, but few days ago Carmax had only 1 LC for sale, today, after LC250 (Prado) announcement, take a look:
edit: probably people cancelled their reserves / holds.
I don’t see 200 values changing much at all. They are all used now - and the person looking for a 200 series Landcruiser isn’t really cross shopping with anything else.
What I do see happening like someone else is mentioned is 4Runners will not command the premium they do now. The more affluent customer will go to the Landcruiser and the 4Runner will be semi-affordable again.
What I do see happening like someone else is mentioned is 4Runners will not command the premium they do now. The more affluent customer will go to the Landcruiser and the 4Runner will be semi-affordable again.
I think LC200 values will drop. Park a 200 next to a 250 and the 200s age will be apparent and, to most, unappealing.
That being said, put a new model in a chair next to me and my age will be even more apparent.
Ill be sticking with my 200 as long as I can, then I will buy a 2021 LC and ride it out until gasoline is outlawed.
That being said, put a new model in a chair next to me and my age will be even more apparent.
Ill be sticking with my 200 as long as I can, then I will buy a 2021 LC and ride it out until gasoline is outlawed.
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I’ve enjoyed 3 years and 30k miles of zero depreciation. That being said, I hope they go down in value, I want a second 200.
I find the Toyota 250 series quite disappointing (looks and capability) compared to the 80, 100 and 200 series, who were all good looking and king in their class. Capability wise just consider the pathetic 6000 lbs of tow capacity because of the silly 4 cylinder engine which gets zero help from the battery and electromotor when you are out of the city. With this approach and choices it is clearly no longer build to last 25year+ and 200k miles+. It looks like another Jeep (in fact the disastrous ugly square Jeep Liberty) or a hip Bronco or Defender attempt.
Not bringing the 300 series to the US and introducing the Prado as a "Land Cruiser", the real Land Cruisers 80, 100 and 200 will remain special and in demand. I expect value to stay up there and possible improve in about 10 years time as they become more scarce, like the FJ cruiser or the 80 series.
Well, definitely no 250 Prado for me.
Not bringing the 300 series to the US and introducing the Prado as a "Land Cruiser", the real Land Cruisers 80, 100 and 200 will remain special and in demand. I expect value to stay up there and possible improve in about 10 years time as they become more scarce, like the FJ cruiser or the 80 series.
Well, definitely no 250 Prado for me.
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All used car prices drop. Some more rapidly than others but they all drop. If you keep cruisers for the long term 40,60 and 80 prices are a gauge for cruiser prices long term. The 200 was the last of an era with the v8. Much like the 60 was with the 4 speed manual and the 80 was with the solid front axle and inline six. Quality/clean examples of the 200 will remain sought after in the future
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I think the 200 only has one way to go and that’s down. The price of these things used are totally disconnected from reality. 80s and 100s used to be much cheaper used.
The 200 attributes that are helping it maintain value are:
You can’t buy a new Land Cruiser (for now)
Exclusivity.
The V8 towing capacity.
Durability
Toyota can’t seem to produce much inventory of anything at the moment.
Dealers are going to try to mark these new ones up.
On the other hand:
Production of all SUVs seems to be picking up.
200s get horrible mileage.
The new model says Land Cruiser on it. People can act like it’s not a real Land Cruiser but is says “Toyota Land Cruiser” on it.
The Sequoia used to suck, now it’s pretty cool
The GX550 is much cooler than the old GX.
The LX600 is decent too.
The LC250 will likely be pretty durable.
Will likely be much better on gas.
People have been asking for a more basic Cruiser ever since the LC100 came out.
I don’t think 200s are going to be cheap anytime soon. However if a 5 year old one with 75,000 miles was all of sudden worth 40K that wouldn’t be a shock either.
The 200 attributes that are helping it maintain value are:
You can’t buy a new Land Cruiser (for now)
Exclusivity.
The V8 towing capacity.
Durability
Toyota can’t seem to produce much inventory of anything at the moment.
Dealers are going to try to mark these new ones up.
On the other hand:
Production of all SUVs seems to be picking up.
200s get horrible mileage.
The new model says Land Cruiser on it. People can act like it’s not a real Land Cruiser but is says “Toyota Land Cruiser” on it.
The Sequoia used to suck, now it’s pretty cool
The GX550 is much cooler than the old GX.
The LX600 is decent too.
The LC250 will likely be pretty durable.
Will likely be much better on gas.
People have been asking for a more basic Cruiser ever since the LC100 came out.
I don’t think 200s are going to be cheap anytime soon. However if a 5 year old one with 75,000 miles was all of sudden worth 40K that wouldn’t be a shock either.
I'm in the same boat as you.
But, the enjoyment is purely psychological, not financial until you have cash (adjusted for inflation) in hand. Selling yesterday would have been financially most lucrative, but, psychologically depressing.
I love my 80 & 200
As long as fuel is available, there will always be a "Big Demand" for a V8 for those that care about towing capacity and power.
I am glad that the Land Cruiser name continues in the US, but I think there will be nostalgia for all previous generations and that will
drive a premium for these used models.
I am glad that the Land Cruiser name continues in the US, but I think there will be nostalgia for all previous generations and that will
drive a premium for these used models.
