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Hmmm....first I've heard and have the split case coming.

Thanks.

fzj80 ff rear. kill 4 stoned birds...disks, ebrake, full float, selectable locker...or find a cable locking FF 40/60 series rear. the integrated ebrake on the 80 axle is superb.
 
splitcase hands down better than one piece...
 
I see a parts search in your future, not that you aren't skilled in that area.

I hear the sarcasm laden in those words.

Every village has an idiot.......

Will be proficient in parts returns soon, since I'm skilled at sourcing, yet ignorant "for what".

Keep in mind, I already have all rebuild components for:

Ebrake
Rear Brakes
Rear Drums
Rear axle
Driveshafts
Transfer case
4 speed

Sitting in storage, along with all kinds of others that are unnecessary.

Have a few to return, it appears.

Chris,
This is what I have used, also. H55, split case tranfer and a FJ 60 rear axle with the E-brake on it. Then you can look for a split case PTO for the winch. :)

Have the H55 and split case....well, on the way.

Wasn't keen to swapping axles, though it was suggested to swap diffs for ratio.

Have to find a solution that maintains the 55 rear axle, since the width of the 60 would look cool, but not wanting to return all the front axle components I have sitting in storage, already, and the varied track width would drive me nuts.


fzj80 ff rear. kill 4 stoned birds...disks, ebrake, full float, selectable locker...or find a cable locking FF 40/60 series rear. the integrated ebrake on the 80 axle is superb.

80 axle is way too wide and if going to that degree (front and rear, to match track width) I'd swap a Pig carcass onto a rolling 80 chassis and get the best of all worlds....subjective, I realize.

Anyhow, what's the story with the SOR kit?

Can these parts not be sourced from OZ still?

and you loose your emergency brake.
not true,
you can build your split to take a t-case ebrake. i have one in my HJ47... factory.

Here is the P/brake components needed......
shaft.....# 36231-60030
bearing retainer housing.....# 36132-60030
brake drum.....# 46501-60030

you can reuse the existing backing plate and hardware.... but a longer cable will be needed.... other options are out there...but just some stuff to ponder on....

NOTICE:
The three parts for the conversion are mostly aftermarket (output = seamaster, drum = joint fuji). The cast steel bearing retainer was the only OE part (I sold at least 12 kits in my day). The pieces all are distributed AND SOLD only as the trio via LA wholesaler to Cruiseroutfitters, Mudrak, Poser, etc. Work with your favorite vendor. Kits to OH the parking brake and shoes can also come from the vendors.

Marv (SOR) may be the only used source in the US.

DON'T FORGET:
The output seal and small roller bearing are also not included and reshimming of the bearings may be required. Backing plate, speedo gear etc will also have to be sourced for the correct tire group (15, 16, and 17 tooth - 6 or the alternates)

Input against and Tucker's current project:

just for an alternative to the t-case p-brake...

you might consider getting a '79 and up 40 axle with the rear drum park brake. getting all that park brake crap to work on the t-case cost me more than had i gone to rear disks with park brake. the late model axles will be all toyota and give you a stronger park brake anyway.

at some point, i will be selling my park brake split case and getting a late model 40 axle as a replacement. works better and will get me a little longer driveshaft. i have had too many frustrations with my t-case brake.

To be continued.
 
Unfortunately I'm afraid I'm going to have to just $OR or MAF it for $500.

I want to keep the ebrake as close to original as possible and I am unable to source the parts anywhere else.

Ok so here's the current list of stuff needed for this conversion ('73 FJ40 w/ SBC and 3 speed to H55 5 speed) ... anyone chime in if you think something is out of whack.

1. H55 Tranny (I believe I need to tap and plug something... I'll do that when I get to that step). Toyota Part#33030-60450. (Have)

2. Tranny Shifter (Toyota part#33530-60160) (Have)

3. Tranny Mount- FJ60 tranny mount (Have)... and bushing (Toyota part# #12371-61031) on order

4. Split Case (from an 87 FJ60 w/ shift linkage) (Have)

5. Transfer Case Gasket kit

6. Driveshaft yoke flanges from an fj60

7. Custom driveshafts (length adjustment)

8. Custom Drive Shafts.

9. Clutch Components-

10. Longer speedo cable

11.SOR Parking Brake conversion kit #)

13. Motor Mounts:

If I'm missing something please chime in... Bret, Poser, Kurt, Dave? Thanks, Dom

More for reference

Man - a little searching would save all these questions :flipoff2: Yes, if you swap a H55 you have to use a split case and you loose the transfer case mounted ebrake. This leaves you two options, pay out the nose for a OEM split case ebrake setup from $OR or add a TSM disk to the transfer case. No, you cannot mount the late 40 or 60 series drum mounted ebrake to any stock FJ55 axle. You will also have to source some specialty bolts to mount the split case to said H55 (4 - 12mmx125mm/ 3 - 12mmx170mm), but this would be the same for the early 60. You will also have to source or fab a cross member to support the longer driveline, but again this would be the same on an early 60. The late 60s have a H42 with an extending spacer meaning it is the same length as a H55, which is why this swap is easier in that truck.

Hope this helps -

Tucker

And more.....

s*** Noah....

H55 tranny/tcase....

You can get the conversion to install a different mainshaft and rear bearing retainer on the split case so that a 40 series one-piece parking brake can be used on it. I have a H55/splitcase with the parking brake conversion on it that was ordered as an assembly from MAF, that will be installed in a 1979-40 series here shortly.


You can make the caliper mounted parking brake work, you will just need more leverage and cable travel than what is provided with either the dash mounted lever or the floor mounted lever....meaning you will need to either install a different parking brake lever assembly, or make some bellcrank assembly to give your stock lever the travel/advantage that is needed to properly set the parking brake on the rear calipers.

-Steve

Line locks have been suggested. Seems easy enough for a parking brake....

A lot of people tossing out some pretty strong opinions... most stated as fact... doesnt sound like many have used line locks



I have and I love them and consider them much more effective than my mechanical parking brakes which I also have on my rigs.


If you have experience with something that pertains to a questions asked.... offer it up... if all you have is 12th hand web advise... why bother?


Mark...

I have quite a bit of experience with the "Lever Lock" brand of hydraulic brake lockers on ford F-350 and F-250 4WD trucks that we ran on several seismic crews that I used to work on. The only failure I ever saw was an idiot driver who installed the Lever Lock himself and didn't properly bleed the system afterwards (got pictures of the truck and idiot somewhere). Other than that, they were 100% reliable. On a truck as old as a 40 though, I would want to make sure my brake hydraulic system was 100% before installing one.


MICO, Inc. : Products/Literature


Take a rust-free Pig over a 60 any day, what you've found is a very rare bird ;) A '78 is mechanically identical to an FJ40 of the same vintage, so there is plenty of H55 swap info out there for you (actually easier due to the longer wheelbase). Your biggest hurdle is the e-brake - you can do an eldorado disk swap ... line lock etc. to get around this.

The hardest thing to find on the piggies is body parts, if that's in good condition you pretty much have the whole spectrum of OEM/aftermarket 40 parts to choose from. You're best bet on lift is getting custom Alcans made - OME used to make a 55 lift as well ... stay away from the Man-a-fre at all cost. Ironpig offroad has bumpers and sliders for pigs, Man-a-fre has some stuff as well.

I can't remember one time I drove my pig around town with out getting nods, stares or questions ... way cooler than a 60 IMO.

:cheers:

Tucker
 
I post some much crap, it's hard to pilfer through and I appreciate y'alls patience.

A concern Onur brought up is the later fan clutch combating for room with the radiator.

I know I've seen a solution to this, that doesn't involve moving motor, but can't find anywhere.
 
I saw your h55 in the box today....if it looks like a 3sp when you get it, I had nothing to do with it!

You are really going to like it, from what I hear. I have not found an e clip for one of the hood hinges, and I have looked all around for the original. All to no avail. I guess i will have to stop by a hardware store. They are ready to go with OEM bolts. There are 4 bushings left over. What do you want me to do with them?
 
I saw your h55 in the box today....

What, pray tell, did you leave the candy store with, if you don't mind my asking?

There are 4 bushings left over. What do you want me to do with them?

Since you've deemed them viable, keep them, let me know how many more are needed to do another set for mine, and the set I'm sending you for cores, plus your own for your Pig. and I'll get them coming straight to you.
 
In order to get an OEM head gasket, you have to purchase the entire seal kit. So, I will have an unopened aftermarket engine gasket kit, it looks like. I also had to get the cam expansion plug lamb crusher insists on. I am almost ready to assemble.

It takes 20 bushings to rebuild all door hinges and the hood hinges for one pig.
 
The split case drum parts are damn near impossible to find anymore, I know Poser bought the output shaft and housing not long ago off here ... not sure if it was for a customer or the horde ;). Another option is the 70 series rear axle, nearly identical width to the 55 axle and SF/FF/locker options were all available with integrated ebrakes ;). I wanted to find a 70 series FF and bolt the 80 series disk/drum setup to it ... one got away for reasonable money :-( I'd say the 5-speed is well worth this problem, send all the lesser crapola back to Mr T ;)

Tucker
 
use water pump for oil cooled non clutch fan for 76-77 fj40/55. also will need correct fan blade and pulley for this application. (sor) the right water pump is actually longer than the later clutch fan pumps, but the pulley is backset from the water pump hub face... you'll get about 1" clearance:eek: but it works...
fzj80 axle is too wide by about 7" when compared to the 55s rear WMS() of 56". a 60 series front or 1 1/2" spacers on the 55 front and shortening the 80s rear by 3 1/8- 3 1/2 will give you the slight front bias in track that was originally used by toyota. you can cheat a bit if you're just concerned about matching front to rear...I used the nitro cut to length locker OK axle shaft cause it used the factory oil seal, had integral flange and is a shelf kept shaft. the shortening isn't as crazy as it sounds and can be done by a determined individual. I used the spindle stub end and the axle shaft torqued onto a packed and adjusted hub and fed into a diff without the pinion shaft so the extra shaft could also spline into the opposite side side gear. I had to take a tiny bit off the OD of the spindle end stub to fit into the unmachined part of the axle tube; how much and where determined by the fit with the diff. got it to all mesh and slide all the way together and burned it home in 3 passes. this dimension and the backspacing of factory 16 rims gives me a track gain of about 1/2-3/4" over stock:lol:
 
The split case drum parts are damn near impossible to find anymore, I know Poser bought the output shaft and housing not long ago off here ... not sure if it was for a customer or the horde ;). Another option is the 70 series rear axle, nearly identical width to the 55 axle and SF/FF/locker options were all available with integrated ebrakes ;). I wanted to find a 70 series FF and bolt the 80 series disk/drum setup to it ... one got away for reasonable money :-( I'd say the 5-speed is well worth this problem, send all the lesser crapola back to Mr T ;)

Tucker

Going to stick with the 55 axles.....I think.

Been waiting on communication from Steve, the last being one that would preclude my nagging further, on a few other parts.

Hope all's well.

Can't wait to nag about the parts.

My guy in "Aichi" (which I think may be a little misrepresented) said the part numbers don't show in his system, period, so hopefully a CAN or AUS source may have.

There's an eBay seller that had marketed in the past (I didn't know what it was for) that I'm going to try to contact, too, all after consultation with the main man.

I had no intentions of the 5 speed, but listened to the advisory committee, as they're fully aware of my intentions to drive this Pig, daily, at highway speeds (75mph) for many years.

At every issue and expense, I can hear the Shaman chanting "350 Chebby, 350 Chebby".

I fall into the "new audience" category, for sure, handicapped by the fact I showed up midway through the second act.
 
use water pump for oil cooled non clutch fan for 76-77 fj40/55. also will need correct fan blade and pulley for this application. (sor) the right water pump is actually longer than the later clutch fan pumps, but the pulley is backset from the water pump hub face... you'll get about 1" clearance:eek: but it works...

This will work on the later 85-87 2F head?
 
If you were to properly power that h55 with 350 cubes, your guilt should be somewhat mitigated by your obsession with your 72's originality. Forcing a historic relic to conform to modern standards of performance and comfort can be futile...especially when it's original purpose is significantly different from either.
 
Line locks have been suggested. Seems easy enough for a parking brake....

the point of the parking brake is also to be an emergency brake, linelocks work off the same as your brake system, therefor if the brakes fail, you have no park brake either. more than once, i've limped home downshifting and pulling the ebrake.
 
A concern Onur brought up is the later fan clutch combating for room with the radiator.

I know I've seen a solution to this, that doesn't involve moving motor, but can't find anywhere.

hhhmmmmm, a pig with a fan clutch.....like this?

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If you were to properly power that h55 with 350 cubes, your guilt should be somewhat mitigated by your obsession with your 72's originality. Forcing a historic relic to conform to modern standards of performance and comfort can be futile...especially when it's original purpose is significantly different from either.

Wouldn't dream of a 350 Chebby...... But a 2UZ..,,Bahaha.

I probably ought to master the tractor motor before moving up to anything complicated.
 

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