Definitive(hopefully) 80's spring selection thread

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Don't give up on them yet. I'm still highly suspect there is something else going on. What exactly is "scary"? Wish I was closer so we could swap trucks and see what is feeling different.

Here's a shot of some of the springs from when I did my install. The one in the foreground is the rear 75mm heavy. 7511 is the number on that one.
Other than color, these springs look exactly like my front 3” Dobinson tapered coils right down the paper tag.
 
Other than color, these springs look exactly like my front 3” Dobinson tapered coils right down the paper tag.
Well that's likely because they are manufactured by Dobinson for @AutoCraft Aus . However, the manufacturing process is not the same on them so they are not exactly the same coils with a different color on them. The two coils in the back of the photo have the generic tags which doesn't surprise me look like the ones on your springs. The closer coil has the Autocraft tag on it as well as the Autocraft part number which I'm sure your springs did not have.
 
Other than color, these springs look exactly like my front 3” Dobinson tapered coils right down the paper tag.
all the parts out there are made by a handful of manufacturers. there's only a handful of shock manufacturers in the world (two in america, tenneco and i can't remember who else), but hundreds of brands of shocks. what makes them different is the valving.
leaf springs are a bit different in that there are still local shops that know how to work the steel correctly. i don't know coil springs well, but i'm guessing there are only a handful that actually manufacture them for the "manufacturers" also, but the spring rate is what is proprietary to the "manufacturer".
 
Well that's likely because they are manufactured by Dobinson for @AutoCraft Aus . However, the manufacturing process is not the same on them so they are not exactly the same coils with a different color on them. The two coils in the back of the photo have the generic tags which doesn't surprise me look like the ones on your springs. The closer coil has the Autocraft tag on it as well as the Autocraft part number which I'm sure your springs did not have.
Do you, or have you, receive(d) compensation from anybody associated with "slinky" springs?
 
Do you, or have you, receive(d) compensation from anybody associated with "slinky" springs?
Technically yes. I'm currently working with Endless Horizon Outfitters who is the new US Distributor to help on their social media side and to help answer questions here on MUD since they aren't able to be on the forums as much as they would like. I've posted this before that I'm working with them so it's not news nor am I hiding it.

However, it does not or would not change my opinion of the product or what I say about it publicly. I've been asked to test and review a number of different products for different companies and if it's not good, I say so. If it is good I say so.
 
Technically yes. I'm currently working with Endless Horizon Outfitters who is the new US Distributor to help on their social media side and to help answer questions here on MUD since they aren't able to be on the forums as much as they would like. I've posted this before that I'm working with them so it's not news nor am I hiding it.

However, it does not or would not change my opinion of the product or what I say about it publicly. I've been asked to test and review a number of different products for different companies and if it's not good, I say so. If it is good I say so.
Oh, and I also plan the routes for the 4xOverlandUSA (parent brand for the Slinky in the US) customer/product testing trips they are calling the 4xOverland Southwest Adventure. Last year was the first one since the kits are just coming to the US. I'm currently planning the route for next year. These trips are designed for existing Slinky owners to get together and for prospective customers to come see how the suspension performs and for new products to go through testing. Last years trip was roughly 500 miles offroad across southern Utah and northern Arizona.
There will probably be some sort of compensation for the 2018 trip but none of those details have been discussed.
 
all the parts out there are made by a handful of manufacturers. there's only a handful of shock manufacturers in the world (two in america, tenneco and i can't remember who else), but hundreds of brands of shocks. what makes them different is the valving.
leaf springs are a bit different in that there are still local shops that know how to work the steel correctly. i don't know coil springs well, but i'm guessing there are only a handful that actually manufacture them for the "manufacturers" also, but the spring rate is what is proprietary to the "manufacturer".
I concur. However, I will never be convinced that the Slinky brand is better or different enough to pay the premium and then put up with nightmarish customer service I have heard so much about. I just want to go wheeling.
 
I concur. However, I will never be convinced that the Slinky brand is better or different enough to pay the premium and then put up with nightmarish customer service I have heard so much about. I just want to go wheeling.
Dobinson makes their own springs (obviously) they also make the Slee springs, as well as the Slinky springs among others.

The good news is that the customer service experience is changing with the move to a new US distributor. Redline was getting stretched too thin and Justin also had serious health issues that contributed to the poor level of communication with customers. The 4xOverlandUSA brand (which includes Slinky) has been moved to Endless Horizon Outfitters for US distributorship and new dealers will come online in the future. So the customer service experience should be very different.

As for paying the premium, that's up to the individual. All I can say is that all of the people I've interacted with that actually go for rides in a Slinky equipped truck all have a similar response and walk away talking about how they really want to upgrade their own trucks with Slinky. It may never change your mind, but if you get a chance to ride in a truck with the Slinky kit I think you'll see what people like about it. I'm trying to plan a trip out to the Rubicon next year. You're welcome to come for a ride in my truck if the Rubicon isn't too far away from you.
 
Technically yes. I'm currently working with Endless Horizon Outfitters who is the new US Distributor to help on their social media side and to help answer questions here on MUD since they aren't able to be on the forums as much as they would like. I've posted this before that I'm working with them so it's not news nor am I hiding it.

However, it does not or would not change my opinion of the product or what I say about it publicly. I've been asked to test and review a number of different products for different companies and if it's not good, I say so. If it is good I say so.


Since you are working so closely with them can you help us find the spring rate so we can have more educated guesses on which slinky to buy based on our weight or desired weight?
 
Since you are working so closely with them can you help us find the spring rate so we can have more educated guesses on which slinky to buy based on our weight or desired weight?
Yep. I'll try to get you some numbers. Here's some info for the different Slinky kits for 80s. I don't have the spring rate details. I can understand some hesitancy in sharing details in this competitive space (seems like Dobinson is not sharing their numbers either). If @AutoCraft Aus (Darren) is interested in sharing spring rates, he'll probably respond.

Stage 1 kits
SK70801SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Stage 1 Intermediate slinky long travel 75mm lift

SK70811SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Stage 1 Heavy Duty slinky long travel 75mm lift

Stage 4 kits
SK70804SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Stage 4 Intermediate 70mm lift

SK70814SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Slinky Long Travel Stage 4 Heavy Duty 70mm lift
 
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@Box Rocket one rear spring had the tag missing, but this is what i was given
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Yep. I'll try to get you some numbers. Here's some info for the different Slinky kits for 80s. I don't have the spring rate details. I can understand some hesitancy in sharing details in this competitive space (seems like Dobinson is not sharing their numbers either). If @AutoCraft Aus (Darren) is interested in sharing spring rates, he'll probably respond.

Stage 1 kits
SK70801SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Stage 1 Intermediate slinky long travel 75mm lift

SK70811SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Stage 1 Heavy Duty slinky long travel 75mm lift

Stage 4 kits
SK70804SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Stage 4 Intermediate 70mm lift

SK70814SLT Toyota 80 Series on Icon Suspension Aus Spec Kit Slinky Long Travel Stage 4 Heavy Duty 70mm lift
The heavy ^^^ says for an additional 75-150*300-600lbs*. Is that per spring or entire kit (I'm sure per kit) or ? And is that GVWR + 75-150lbs or stock bare weight + 75-150300-600lbs? Thanks.
 
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The heavy ^^^ says for an additional 75-150lbs. Is that per spring or entire kit (I'm sure per kit) or ? And is that GVWR + 75-150lbs or stock bare weight + 75-150lbs? Thanks.


75-150......that doesn't sound heavy at all. I'm close to 800lbs over bone stock empty and I haven't put anything in it yet.
 
75-150......
Agreed. That's why I have the questions I do. My cooler full of ice & cold beer weighs that, but it could be over GVWR.
 
75-150......that doesn't sound heavy at all. I'm close to 800lbs over bone stock empty and I haven't put anything in it yet.
The heavies say 300-500kg of extra weight. That's 700-1000lbs. The Slinky kits are being used in Australia on trucks much heavier than most US trucks.
 
Looks like the right ones. Maybe Darren will weigh in. Still don't think I understand what was scary about them.
think of being on a boat. driving straight ahead i had bad sway issues. hit a bump in the road, get it swaying side to side. get a gust of wind, it would sway hard. excessively tippy when cornering. (worse than it was with no sway bars and slees).
 

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