There is def a few around here already. One was stalking me while I was road biking the other day and snuck up on me.
Cybertruck or 200 Series Land Cruiser?
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What did it cost to charge your EV over the past 6 years? I have always wondered about the true cost of ownership.
In my opinion…Cyber truck isn’t a confident boonies explorer. Its a speedy dabbler. When a handful of we 200 guys hit deep into Baja in 2017 200’s… even buying gasoline was a slow, scarce process. The Cyber Truck probably wouldn’t have made it past day 1 & definitely not day 2 or beyond.
Depends on your cost of electricity. I pay 12 cents per KWH, including all taxes and fees, on my electric bill, so driving my Chevy Bolt 200 miles costs me about $5.75. Or about $575 per 20,000 miles.
No oil changes, and the friction brakes virtually never get used because of the regenerative braking.
That said there are a lot of free chargers around. Our county library’s, the Zoo, and the Aquarium here have free level 2 charging. We have a zoo membership so we go fairly regularly and I get a 30% bump while we are in the zoo. I would say maybe 10% of my charging has been on some of those chargers
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This won’t be considered pro-CT by any stretch but for anyone else that is a Lewis black fan…
I’m in Alaska and my situation is a little different than most. I’m at $0.17 per kWh. In Alaska during the winter I use ~30-40% more than rated range for the 3-4 months it is around or below 0F. I also have a 7kw solar set up that completely covers my charging 6-7 months a year. And I can charge for free all year at work. I’m 2 months shy of 6 years with the model 3 and at almost 60k miles. I’m at ~$700 in electricity to drive my Tesla ~60k miles. In terms of other expenses, service. I’ve replaced the. Cabin air filter twice at $16 each time, installed $30 mud flaps, and exchanged the brake fluid twice $25 each time. So I’m at ~$800 total. This will likely be my last summer on the OEM tires, and I’ll be due new winter tires this fall.
If I had charged at home every time. I’m at 270 wh/mi lifetime efficiency at 0.17 per kWh that would put me at $~2700 in 6 years and 60k miles.
vs h the LX. I’m at lifetime average 12.3 mpg, I can’t remember when gas was <4.50 a gallon up here so that is >$23,000 in gas, or at least $20k more then electricity for the Tesla. Pm: 11 oil changes, 4 differential and T case fluid changes. 2 transmission fluid exchanges, 2 AHC fluid exchanges, 3 batteries, 2 brake fluid exchanges, brake pads and rotors all the way around and I’m about to do radiator+water pump+idler pulley. I’m due for new winter tires for the LX as well. Summer tires seem to be about the same lifespan as the Tesla.
Saw my first CT today. Bizarre, fascinating, ugly, odd, cool - all at once. Every single person within 50 yards was staring and pointing at it. If you get one, be prepared for attention (duh). Great for some I’m sure. Hard pass for me.
I saw 2 this week, sorry but they are stupid lookin, just my opinion. HARD PASS for me as well.
I have seen quite a few in Austin area. My wife saw her first one about week ago, she was going to get some coffee. She got back home from her Dutch Bros. coffee run and tells me about this angular shiny metal thing she saw on the road. She knows I am a car person and she is not by any stretch. She asked me what it was I told her I thought is was new Tesla Cyber truck. Her next comment was will never own one of those ugly ass things right and not really in form of question.
Off-peak electricity costs $0.064 per KWh here. I'm careful to charge during off-peak hours,. My old model 3 Standard Range is one of the most efficient EV's out there. 25,000 kw over 100,000 miles comes out to $1600 bucks of "gas" plugging in at home over night (off-peak). I only supercharged a handful of times in the 5 years I owned the car. I've now got a Model S Long Range which is not nearly as efficient as the Model 3 Standard Range, so it'll get more expensive.
But still a tiny fraction of dino fuel. Compare that to my last gas-powered DD, a Lexus IS350 (comparable size/performance to the Model 3) would have cost $17,280 in gas @ $4/gallon over the same stretch of time, or about ten times as much. Plus oil changes, brake pads and all the other maintenance that's not really needed in an EV.
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I don't think there is a more polarizing vehicle out there. Enough that even the naysayers must weigh in.
This isn't a traditional car. With us being on a 200-series forum, something as traditional and with as long of a legacy as they come. I guess it's no surprise with the number of people offended, if that's the right word?
This isn't a vehicle for "us."
This isn't a traditional car. With us being on a 200-series forum, something as traditional and with as long of a legacy as they come. I guess it's no surprise with the number of people offended, if that's the right word?
This isn't a vehicle for "us."
the CT is not that that special in that regard. Go to any truck forum where any EV truck is brought up and you get similar reaponses. I owned an F150 for 9 years and spent time on Ram and Tundra forums so I’ve seen the responses.
Ev trucks are polarizing in general because they tend to epitomize the suburban soccer dad trend with their 85 miles of towing range. Although, you could argue that if you are just gunna drive a 7000 lb truck around daily for no reason other than having a truck, an EV truck is the best option.
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That is the demo of 85% of USDM 200 series owners... even with their 35s and dissent bumpers and ARB snorkels
It’s true!That is the demo of 85% of USDM 200 series owners... even with their 35s and dissent bumpers and ARB snorkels
...or pickup trucks in general. On my street, well over 50% of the men daily drive full-size pickup trucks (mostly tundras, a few dodges and fords). In my 3 years living here, I have TWICE seen someone actually hook up a trailer or put anything larger in the bed than what would fit in the back of my wife's RX350.
But even they probably think EV trucks are dumb because half the reason they bought the truck is the "what-if" scenarios they made up in their minds.
I would argue that most people on the forums, or who comment on videos like TFLTruck, seem to actually use their trucks as trucks somewhat regularly.
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Thanks, I have always wondered what it cost to charge an EV. I work in the energy sector (oil and gas) so I really don't see an EV in my future.
I have a hunch most of us have an EV (or whatever is next) in our future at some point; it's really a question of when, not if. The younger we are, the more likely we'll be driving something electric eventually.
To me, the 3 biggest issues with EV's at the moment are:
1. The time it takes to fully charge in the middle of a long (more than ~300 miles) drive. This has improved, but still has a long way to go before it realistically competes with a quick stop to fill up a gas tank.
2. The charging infrastructure. This will obviously sort itself out over time).
3. The cost to eventually replace the batteries and trade-in values (which I have a hunch are somewhat closely related)
To me, the 3 biggest issues with EV's at the moment are:
1. The time it takes to fully charge in the middle of a long (more than ~300 miles) drive. This has improved, but still has a long way to go before it realistically competes with a quick stop to fill up a gas tank.
2. The charging infrastructure. This will obviously sort itself out over time).
3. The cost to eventually replace the batteries and trade-in values (which I have a hunch are somewhat closely related)
The infrastructure is improving significantly for brands who are now jumping onto the Tesla Supercharger network. GM, Ford and Rivian have all signed agreements.
The "public" DC fast charge network is atrocious in my experience though. I have never actually needed to charge my Bolt at a paid DC fast charger, but have attempted to multiple times just to get a feel for how it worked, and I have been completely unsuccessful. First time was in Park City where the charger simply wouldnt start. Kept giving me a connection error. Second time was outside a REI in Salt Lake City where the charger just wasn't working at all and was wrapped in yellow caution tape. The third time was in the same parking lot at a different store that had 8 brand new DC fast charging stalls. Every single one of them had their charging cable cut off 4" from the charger, presumably by people looking to sell the copper wire.
That's been the extent of my experience. I don't think I would take my Bolt on a road trip to be honest.