Can a pressurized tank lead to a fuel delivery issue?

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So I was just curious what others might have to say on this matter.
The post title is sort of just part of it.

Here's a list of what's been done so far:
  1. I have replaced the charcoal canister with a generic one,
  2. Replaced the EVAP valve behind the driver side cargo panel,
  3. Reconditioned the fuel tank,
  4. Flushed all the lines out before putting it all back together
  5. Put in a new OEM fuel filter
  6. Replaced the gas cap
  7. Oh and I am pretty sure I checked if all lines related to the charcoal/evap could be blown through easily

Since then I've driven it several hundred miles, with short little 20-30 minute trips here and there, and everything seemed to be great. Good power, no hiccups/misfires.

Just two weekends ago I decided to drive it down from the shop where I keep it to my apartment (60 miles), my longest trip yet and discovered that it's not all perfect. On the way down to my apartment I noticed about 10 or so misfires or hiccups, they'd happen every 15-20 minutes or so, usually no more than a single pop and loss of power, very abrupt. I then drove it to my work the next day and it happened a couple of times. Then this past weekend I decided to drive it back up to my shop so that I could start tearing into it and figure out whats wrong. On the way back the misfires were happening a little more frequently, and I also noticed the fuel gauge would gradually go up and then down... as if pressure was building up, but then releasing. Luckily I never had a real loss of power and even cruised around 60+ mph in the thing ( that was scary ), I would even argue that the misfires only happened at lower speeds after coming to complete stops. I think it was happening more often when I'd be deaccelerating (not 100% on that), but then it would misfire shortly after taking off again.

When I went to refuel at a gas station I noticed there is a ton of pressure coming out of the gas tank when removing the gas cap. I also notice an nasty toxic smell always happening ONLY when I deaccelerate or let off the throttle. Is the pressure causing a fuel delivery issue, maybe like a bubble or something in the fuel line? After I parked it back at the shop I opened the gas cap and more pressure came out. I didn't touch it for a day and went back and did the same thing, and even more pressure came out.

Is my pig just gassy? Should I give it some gas-x?

Anyways main issues I'd like to resolve are the toxic smell when decelerating, literally feel like it burns out my sinuses... and obviously this over pressurization that seems to be out of the norm (trust me I've searched high and low around ih8mud for months before deciding to bother ya'll with this).

Hoping anyone can chime in with some insight / ideas / solutions.

As always, appreciate you all.
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John
 
I had a high pressure tank after my swap to a V8, enough pressure that it leaked significantly if I left the fuel cap on. My problem was solved with a fuel pressure regulator off ebay - but I wasn't carbed. Also, it still escapes me how I got such pressure in what is essentially a closed loop. Nonetheless, took care of the problem and I moved on.
 
@effjay55 ,
If you try searching this topic from a few different angles, you’d be sure to find a wheelbarrow full of threads where this issue has been examined top to bottom.
Not sure if there’s a sticky at the top of the page related, but there should be…




 
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Did you clean out or blow out the vent lines when you reconditioned the tank? Can you blow them out now with an air compressor?
I am pretty sure I did when I had the whole thing apart. But I am guessing draining the whole system and trying to check all the lines is in order. Each configuration seems to be so different, especially with the ‘74 gas tank that maybe I missed something. I know that when I check the vent lines to the charcoal canister everything seemed good.

Do you happen to know where the lines youre talking about are ?
 
@effjay55 ,
If you try searching this topic from a few different angles, you’d be sure to find a wheelbarrow full of threads where this issue has been examined top to bottom.
Not sure if there’s a sticky at the top of the page related, but there should be…




Thank you rush, I think Ive revisited several of those threads over and over in attempts to get everything right. They actually helped me a ton initially, but with whats happening now I am totally flabbergasted… I am guessing the toxic smell, this new intermittent misfire , and over pressurization are all related. Ill comb through these posts again and try to see if I missed anything.

Guess Im going to have to roll up my sleeves and get back to work diagnosing it.

I appreciate your support everyone.
 
Do you happen to know where the lines youre talking about are ?
Early vent lines were one in each lower corner, '74 were all on the driver side.
I've always had positive pressure in my fuel tank, I like it and think it makes things easier for the fuel pump. I have a vented cap that lets loose at a pre-determined (low) PSI. I often hear it whistling on hot days.
If you think you're overpressurized try running without the cap...
 
Early vent lines were one in each lower corner, '74 were all on the driver side.
I've always had positive pressure in my fuel tank, I like it and think it makes things easier for the fuel pump. I have a vented cap that lets loose at a pre-determined (low) PSI. I often hear it whistling on hot days.
If you think you're overpressurized try running without the cap...

I managed to upload a short little clip of it on YouTube. You can hear the “whoosh” when I open the gas cap. Would this be considered normal?

 
The whoosh sounds ok, but you have gurgles at the end (?). I don't have gurgles. How much fuel in the tank?
 
Reconditioned fuel tank how??? Are the lines connected correctly to the designated port on fuel tank??? Pics would help!! 🤔🧐😉😉

When I plugged in the hoses I just went in the same order they were plugged in. The length of all the hoses sort of seemed to reach their respective inlets on the tank, ill try to take a few pics tonight, but they seemed right..

In terms of “recondition”… Well i took it off the truck, and cleaned the hell out of the thing, flushed it several times. The inside was actually pretty clean and showed no sign of corrosion, looked new.

The outside was in bad shape though. I took off layers of bed liner someone sprayed all over it and cleaned up rust that was beneath it, got it down to bare metal, then I ended up coating in ZRC rust inhibitor, some high zinc paint that they use to paint the navy ships lol. Needless to say it aint rusting any time soon… I then gave it a coat of flat black paint.

During all this i made sure all the ports / vents on the tank were clear. I didnt in anyway coat the inside with anything as Ive seem some other folks have done.
 
The whoosh sounds ok, but you have gurgles at the end (?). I don't have gurgles. How much fuel in the tank?
Yeah tons of gurgling, I got half a tank at the moment. I actually had overfilled the tank at one point and ended up draining the tank to try and rectify the issue, since then Ive been careful about overfilling.

Was thinking… Do you think there may just be fuel in the fuel vapor separator* that is stuck in there from after overfilling? Im going to look at the emissions manual and a few other things to see if I can figure out more tonight.
 
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Thought maybe these photos might be beneficial in some way to add to the thread.. going to read through them here and follow some of the inspection procedures..

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How many vent lines are coming off the tank?
Have you looked behind the driver side cargo area panel to see what the vent plumbing looks like back there?
Just posted a few photos from the 74 emission manual, pretty much what you see in the diagrams. Ill take of the panels and snap some pics here shortly
 
Remove this line at the top of the separator. Cut a piece of hose and attach it to the top and run the other end to the plastic reflector/vent so that the fumes can vent to atmosphere to the outside.
Start up the engine, drive it around, see what it does. This should completely eliminate the possibility of pressure buildup. This is just temporary for testing.

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Remove this line at the top of the separator. Cut a piece of hose and attach it to the top and run the other end to the plastic reflector/vent so that the fumes can vent to atmosphere to the outside.
Start up the engine, drive it around, see what it does. This should completely eliminate the possibility of pressure buildup. This is just temporary for testing.

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When you say the reflector vent you just mean this bit?

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disconnected check valve from the fuel vapor separator

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Now youre saying run a line from this tube to the vent?
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Yep.
Now start it, go for a short drive see what happens.
Hey @RUSH55 so went for a drive last night, still seems to have had some pressure and gurgling when i opened the fuel cap.

Albeit I don’t know if I was smelling the toxic fumes as much and it ran with no hiccups (still not sure if the pressure in the tank and misfires are related).

Either way im going to blow some low pressure into the 4 vent ports i see. Adding some more pics of the actual vent hoses from vapor separator to the tank itself.

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