Building Bulletproof Axles (2 Viewers)

[Wheelingnoob]

As far as rear axles, this looks like a good way to twist and jam a stock e-locked rear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEhT3JeyBF0

Looks like 37's, foot to floor and bouncing.

 

[Delancy]

As far as rear axles, this looks like a good way to twist and jam a stock e-locked rear.

Looks like 37's, foot to floor and bouncing.

What a dumbass.

 

[Wheelingnoob]

What a dumbass.

Heh looked fun, got some air in the back.

How are your bullet proof axles coming?

 

[Red Sox Cruiser]

my .02 worth

I have 1994 FZJ80 factory e-locked currently on 37's with stock gears and has been for about 9 months or so. Only wheeled it a few times but I have found that it is a little easier on the rig being on 37's vs. the 35's I ran for 3 1/2 years or so because it takes much less momentum to roll over things. I do plan to do the 5.29's with longs but I can't really afford it right now.

 

[TheBigBoy]

I wouldnt be getting 5.29's if I where you. Weak as...

Get reduction gears instead.

 

[inkpot]

What a dumbass.

Not my style of driving, but I would not expect that to be a high risk situation. Soft/decomposed surface allows lots of wheel spin when airborn tires come back to earth. Risk of damage would be much greater if it was on granite/bedrock where traction is there instantly when tires come down onto it. Also, this video looked like the rig was not locked. John

 

[wv_lx450]

As far as rear axles, this looks like a good way to twist and jam a stock e-locked rear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEhT3JeyBF0

Looks like 37's, foot to floor and bouncing.

thats basically how i twisted the splines on mine before the ton swap. i did a couple full throttle, wheels in the air runs on a trail here and then the e-locker wouldnt disengage. i was lucky enough to be able to get the axle out but it was very difficult to do. i just swapped to tons instead of fixing it. oh, and i was on 35's at the time.

 

[adventr]

thats basically how i twisted the splines on mine before the ton swap. i did a couple full throttle, wheels in the air runs on a trail here and then the e-locker wouldnt disengage. i was lucky enough to be able to get the axle out but it was very difficult to do. i just swapped to tons instead of fixing it. oh, and i was on 35's at the time.

I've done the same thing with the big heavy tires that I run, and haven't had a problem. Guess it just depends on luck.

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[Delancy]

Not my style of driving, but I would not expect that to be a high risk situation.

Not typically mine, either, and in my own defense, it was the first I'd ever had the 80 off road, the video doesn't show the first four attempts, all incrementally increasing throttle in an effort to avoid the tree, I never had ANY aspirations of catching air, and the incline is greater than it appeared in the video.

With the TC gears and diff gears, should mitigate the slipping.

akirilo's second or third attempt.

37s with 5.29s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTZVwWARixw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I blame the spotters.

 

[ChaseTruck]

May as well just run 1-tons

They break just as well.

Wouldn't "bulletproof" be dependent on the size of the bullet?

 

[ajax1]

im running rear non elocked with arbs and 37s stock shafts, front longs and would like to do the 9.5 up front as well i think thats the best option for staying yota. i would say i wheel it pretty hard having run all major trails in moab and everything except penrose in colo knock on wood all good so far

 

[Delancy]

For the record.

OE birfs, front and rear shafts $2,600.00

Rear shafts are now 1mm larger in diameter and that price includes the required larger seals.

 

[Delancy]

Found an interesting, relevant article reading up on cryo treatment.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/articles/productreviews/superbirfield

I can't seem to find a date on the article, but an interesting read that'd be more interesting if i knew when it was written.

Headed this direction, it appears. Have front birf's and shafts en route from the Shaman.

 

[lt1fire]

Lumpy has dragged me over to the 80's section.

After researching this topic for... ever... here's the ultimate 80 series based Land Cruiser axles.

Front:
Ruff-stuff housing with full size ring gear.
ARB Locker, cryo'd 4.88's, or 5.29's if that's your style.
Longfield 30 spline axles shafts, birfs and hub gear
HellFire fabworks knuckles and arms.
Evolution Machine hydro tie-rod.
Tundra brake callipers.
6 dowel hub/axle upgrade.

Rear:
factory FF 80 series housing.
Detroit locker
Poly Performance axle shafts.
6 dowel hub/axle upgrade

This for keeping it yota.... might change mine to a a diamond axle housing though.


But in making your e-locked axles as bullet proof as you can... there aren't many options and they have all already been covered.


In the long run it is cheaper to do a D60/14B conversion but then it wouldn't be all toyota

 

[BenMara]

In the long run it is cheaper to do a D60/14B conversion but then it wouldn't be all toyota

Indeed, i still have a van width 14bolt in the yard when i wanted to go 1tons

 

[Rob04]

Hey there I`am running a supercharged 6.5 chev diesel in my 80 series with manual trans H151F through 4.1`s and 305/70/16 Micky Thompsons MTZ and was wondering if there are any diff ratio`s arond the 3.4 to 3.5 available I know i can get 3.7`s I`m just trying to get lower engine rev`s while highway cruising or should I just stick with the 3.7`s

 

[inkpot]

Hey there I`am running a supercharged 6.5 chev diesel in my 80 series with manual trans H151F through 4.1`s and 305/70/16 Micky Thompsons MTZ and was wondering if there are any diff ratio`s arond the 3.4 to 3.5 available I know i can get 3.7`s I`m just trying to get lower engine rev`s while highway cruising or should I just stick with the 3.7`s

Why not run 35 or 37" rubber for overdrive? Is your diesel supercharged or turboed? John

 

[Rob04]

Yeh John it is supercharged with our rolad rules I don`t think I will get away with running to much bigger in the tyre situation was going to look at running the 35`s as test was more looking at the diff gear change first. I think I`m going to stick with the 3.7`s .

 

[Delancy]

How are your bullet proof axles coming?

Not claiming bulletproof, but done.

The only kept components were the housings with all other components replaced with OE, save the 5.29s.

Axle shafts, Birf's, and gears cryo'd.

TC refreshed with Marlin gears installed, actuators refreshed, all by Robbie Antonson.

Hopefully the gears will minimize replication of the previously posted video, but wrapping the housing with Kevlar for good measure.

 

[Delancy]

make sure you upgrade the hub studs and pins or you will sheer them off.

Arp knuckle studs
Arp hub studs

Install the ARP hub studs front and rear, and do the dowel pin mod as described

get the ARP stud kit and lock tight the threads, if you are using this set up. I would not run stock studs as they streach too much under loads and as Andy stated, they may not have the right pitch for the cones.

Confused on this one, Robbie.

More info on studs please.

Trying to get a lug, hub, knuckle stud order placed, but have spent two days searching for info. Have 1/2 a lug engaged with the Trail Ready c and if doing it, might as well do it right.

4 years on the 80, about 10 yrs on various stock birfs/shafts. Nothing broken yet.

How bout now?