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This chat has made me wonder if i could use something like the Wilwood stand alone parking brake calipers (mechanical or electric) and configure those as a cutting brake 🤔
This would be a great way to go.
Biggest issue is where the levers would go in the cabin.
 
This chat has made me wonder if i could use something like the Wilwood stand alone parking brake calipers (mechanical or electric) and configure those as a cutting brake 🤔


Yes
 
Did a full repaint of the armor as it was looking beat and there always a bunch of good looking Land Cruiser's at SAS plus @Muddy Feet well be there with his flock of pretty boy 80's 🤣
All kidding aside John & Candon and there boy's have some of the cleanest 80's out there two of them being 4.7 swapped by Slee and all three well be at SAS 😍
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Need to Finnish working on the skid plate and swap out the 39s for @mustcamp's 37s and I well be ready to go.
Got the rear seat's installed yesterday.
What’s going on that you are installing rear seats and 37’s? Help me out, I live under a rock.
 
You keep a clean shop, Richard. You’re not allowed to see mine right now.

Have you tan 37s before the 39s? Recall what that was like? It’ll be interesting to hear your perspective on all-around performance going down in size.
 
That's what the other thing I was going to ask about. Cutting brake levers. Are they of any use on the trail? I see folks with twin stick tcases doing front digs to swing around, but is there any advantage here for maneuverability or for better braking?
Don't old farm tractors over there have separate/split brake pedals for the rear wheels? Aussie tractors and backhoes did. You could stand on one brake, and spin the tractor on the spot pivoting around the rear wheel
 
What’s going on that you are installing rear seats and 37’s? Help me out, I live under a rock.

Said the wife was going

Said at 10k feet 37s are better for power
 
Said the wife was going

Said at 10k feet 37s are better for power
Close wife usually rides in front with me 😍
My Son and his wife will be flying into Durangoand and driving over to Ouray to meet us for a few days trail riding 😍 so rear seats will be needed. I'm super excited about this.
Were we camp in Ouray for SAS is at 8000 feet of elevation and some of the mountain passes we cross are over 12000 feet the 1FZ struggles at these elevation on 39s with just to people, this year I will have 4. when I mentioned this to Kenn he offered up his 37s and I jumped on it !! THANKS Kenn !!
 
Don't old farm tractors over there have separate/split brake pedals for the rear wheels? Aussie tractors and backhoes did. You could stand on one brake, and spin the tractor on the spot pivoting around the rear wheel
Yes, they do.

They also steer MUCH tighter than a LC.
 
Yes, they do.

They also steer MUCH tighter than a LC.
This reminds me of when I was a young man working for my Dad, We were doing the streets and underground utilities in a new subdivision.
I had been driving a skip loader that had steering brakes ( two pedals right next to each other ) that could be tied together and that's how I had them.
Then I went and jumped on the Backhoe that had the same steering brakes but they weren't locked together and headed down the hill, as I approached a parked pickup truck I put my foot on the brake to slow down as I did the Backhoe started to turn right into the pickup ( most tractors have a hand throttle and a decelerator pedal ) as it did I panicked and push the brake harder and of course it just turned faster o_O before I could get my other foot on the decelerator I did a 180 with the bucket sideswiping the side of the bed and the backhoe slamming in the tailgate.
It was a hard lesson, Dad wouldn't let me put it on the insurance and I had to pay for it out of pocket. I worked for weeks to pay that off.
 
This reminds me of when I was a young man working for my Dad, We were doing the streets and underground utilities in a new subdivision.
I had been driving a skip loader that had steering brakes ( two pedals right next to each other ) that could be tied together and that's how I had them.
Then I went and jumped on the Backhoe that had the same steering brakes but they weren't locked together and headed down the hill, as I approached a parked pickup truck I put my foot on the brake to slow down as I did the Backhoe started to turn right into the pickup ( most tractors have a hand throttle and a decelerator pedal ) as it did I panicked and push the brake harder and of course it just turned faster o_O before I could get my other foot on the decelerator I did a 180 with the bucket sideswiping the side of the bed and the backhoe slamming in the tailgate.
It was a hard lesson, Dad wouldn't let me put it on the insurance and I had to pay for it out of pocket. I worked for weeks to pay that off.
We had a couple tractors that could lock the brakes together, but we learned to NOT keep them locked together and be consistent across ALL our tractors to make sure our big feet were where they needed to be. Either BOTH pedals or the one you needed to steer with. We would use the steer pedals for turning the tractor coming out the end of the field to spin around and go right back next to where we were. Had a couple times that someone else had driven the tractor and locked the pedals and when I went to steer, I went straight and grabbed the fence with the equipment.

Lots of stories of this!
 
Sure. Principle is the same.
Sort of.

A switch needs something to build pressure. The lever version has a master cylinder that pushes fluid. The switch will hold pressure at whatever the line pressure is.

So, as a parking brake, step on the brake pedal, then flip the switch and it will hold, but that's multiple steps to get what you need and would be difficult for a turning brake.

Sorry, I replied to the other note first.

On one of our trucks, the rear tires will tend to drag and slide more VS the front wheels. Tractors have the majority of their weight on top of the rear wheels and can easily pivot the front around the rear axle due to less friction on the front tires. Also, the rear tires are MUCH larger then the fronts, creating more surface contact and more resistance to movement VS the front tires.
On our trucks with equal size tires all the way around, there is less pivot and more drag unless you couple it with breaking traction IE: front dig. Also with a fully kitted 80, there is more nearly equal weight bias front to rear (possibly more on the rear) and that will hinder the pivot.
 
I would like to know more about this !!

Me too 😄

I tore out my handbrake cable last time I was wheeling.
I looked at wilwood Park brake calipers as a possible alternative to the suckish toyota handbrake.
If an electric version was useful in a cutting brake scenario, would definitely make it more appealing.
I used my front locker in my 105 with the rear unlocked to do front digs a few times with varying success. Cutting brake would have helped for sure.
Last front dig was done to turn around on a narrow steep trail that was impassible. I tore a tire off the bead, and smashed a birf, but got turned around in a place I had no business (but no options) trying to turn around.
 
Would be a challenge to get a secondary parking caliper to fit the rear without a complete retrofit based on the mounting for the LC caliper and backing plate for the existing parking brake. @synapse was working on a rear retrofit with bracketry that would be a drop in, but not sure he's got all the way with prototyping it yet.

I might experiment on the back of SB first which is a much simpler setup to see if I like/ use a cutting brake (I assume I will) before making the investment to significantly alter a stock 80 rear axle.
 
Me too 😄

I tore out my handbrake cable last time I was wheeling.
I looked at wilwood Park brake calipers as a possible alternative to the suckish toyota handbrake.
If an electric version was useful in a cutting brake scenario, would definitely make it more appealing.
I used my front locker in my 105 with the rear unlocked to do front digs a few times with varying success. Cutting brake would have helped for sure.
Last front dig was done to turn around on a narrow steep trail that was impassible. I tore a tire off the bead, and smashed a birf, but got turned around in a place I had no business (but no options) trying to turn around.
Nine years of running rocks under all weather conditions, in daylight and darkness, with and without a spotter, in forward and reverse gear, in my mind and out of my mind and I’ve had only one “real” problem with the parking brake cable. That was crushing and tearing off the diff housing bracket. I like modifying and “improving” and all that crap but until my brake cable is torn completely off a couple times I don’t think changing the set up is money well spent.
 
Swapping out the tires I found this
It’s gear oil and had to just started as it only in the two spots
Glad I found it now as I still have time to fix it.
Luckily I have a drawer full of extra parts including axle seals & gaskets
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