NLXTACY
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Good work Joey, now go home and try to get some sleep. Otherwise, heart attack #2 is not too far behind.
You aren’t wrong
Still haven’t slept. 10 hours in the train so far and been writing the whole time
Bolt on turbo kit (27 Viewers)
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You aren’t wrong
Still haven’t slept. 10 hours in the train so far and been writing the whole time
NLXTACY
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Oh and a glorious sneak peak of the instructions/documentation
Im about 1/3 done with the writing and I have yet to add the photos and new line drawings. It’s going to be a coffee table book.
Hahahahaha
Im about 1/3 done with the writing and I have yet to add the photos and new line drawings. It’s going to be a coffee table book.
Hahahahaha
Will the first edition be autographed?
Oh and a glorious sneak peak of the instructions/documentation
Im about 1/3 done with the writing and I have yet to add the photos and new line drawings. It’s going to be a coffee table book.
Hahahahaha
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Wow. Your attention to detail is amazing.Oh and a glorious sneak peak of the instructions/documentation
Im about 1/3 done with the writing and I have yet to add the photos and new line drawings. It’s going to be a coffee table book.
Hahahahaha
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Instructions, there's a novel concept! I could have used those the first time around 
I have to say it's a little affirming to see the pros cobbling together garage scraps for layout brainstorming.
Comments on washer bottle--it does look like your intake pipe will interfere with mine (not slee, but homemade), but it took me about a half hour to relocate my washer bottle using scraps around the garage, so I'm sure I can figure something out for that (no wiper fluid would result in highway death since the 80 is my snow rig). Overall, I like the intake pipe routing for ultimate flexibility for the most people. When I saw your drawing earlier in the thread of the little 90* bend into the turbo, I thought it must be a custom formed plastic, fiberglass or carbon part, because I tried pointing my intake that way and the MAF was too big to make it work using normal pipes/couplers.
Comments on intercooler--this was discussed at length earlier in the thread and I think Joey is making the right decision by offering it as an option down the road. It is my opinion and experience that anyone with a turbo will want an intercooler, but there are so many different ways to do it that will work better/worse for different people that there is no one configuration that would make everyone happy. (i.e. top mount wont work for those with clean body, front mount wont work for those with a winch, A/W isn't ideal for people like me who like it simple and don't run a winch, etc.) For those of you that are worried, total cost to add an A/A intercooler to my turbo setup was under $250. I imagine any intercooler option that Joey comes up with will be a lot more $, but it will be designed to work with the kit out of the box.
Other comments--do you have a plan for dealing with crankcase pressure? I assume you've got something in the works since there is a test mule on the road. But seeing those pictures with the valve cover breather and pcv still in place just got me wondering.
I have to say it's a little affirming to see the pros cobbling together garage scraps for layout brainstorming.Comments on washer bottle--it does look like your intake pipe will interfere with mine (not slee, but homemade), but it took me about a half hour to relocate my washer bottle using scraps around the garage, so I'm sure I can figure something out for that (no wiper fluid would result in highway death since the 80 is my snow rig). Overall, I like the intake pipe routing for ultimate flexibility for the most people. When I saw your drawing earlier in the thread of the little 90* bend into the turbo, I thought it must be a custom formed plastic, fiberglass or carbon part, because I tried pointing my intake that way and the MAF was too big to make it work using normal pipes/couplers.
Comments on intercooler--this was discussed at length earlier in the thread and I think Joey is making the right decision by offering it as an option down the road. It is my opinion and experience that anyone with a turbo will want an intercooler, but there are so many different ways to do it that will work better/worse for different people that there is no one configuration that would make everyone happy. (i.e. top mount wont work for those with clean body, front mount wont work for those with a winch, A/W isn't ideal for people like me who like it simple and don't run a winch, etc.) For those of you that are worried, total cost to add an A/A intercooler to my turbo setup was under $250. I imagine any intercooler option that Joey comes up with will be a lot more $, but it will be designed to work with the kit out of the box.
Other comments--do you have a plan for dealing with crankcase pressure? I assume you've got something in the works since there is a test mule on the road. But seeing those pictures with the valve cover breather and pcv still in place just got me wondering.
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Joey is including a new oil pressure sender, and a new vacuum check valve for the brake booster not to mention 100 pages of instructions you think he is going to let you pressurize the crank case?
Instructions, there's a novel concept! I could have used those the first time around
Comments on washer bottle--it does look like your intake pipe will interfere with mine (not slee, but homemade), but it took me about a half hour to relocate my washer bottle using scraps around the garage, so I'm sure I can figure something out for that (no wiper fluid would result in highway death since the 80 is my snow rig). Overall, I like the intake pipe routing for ultimate flexibility for the most people. When I saw your drawing earlier in the thread of the little 90* bend into the turbo, I thought it must be a custom formed plastic, fiberglass or carbon part, because I tried pointing my intake that way and the MAF was too big to make it work using normal pipes/couplers.
Comments on intercooler--this was discussed at length earlier in the thread and I think Joey is making the right decision by offering it as an option down the road. It is my opinion and experience that anyone with a turbo will want an intercooler, but there are so many different ways to do it that will work better/worse for different people that there is no one configuration that would make everyone happy. (i.e. top mount wont work for those with clean body, front mount wont work for those with a winch, A/W isn't ideal for people like me who like it simple and don't run a winch, etc.) For those of you that are worried, total cost to add an A/A intercooler to my turbo setup was under $250. I imagine any intercooler option that Joey comes up with will be a lot more $, but it will be designed to work with the kit out of the box.
Other comments--do you have a plan for dealing with crankcase pressure? I assume you've got something in the works since there is a test mule on the road. But seeing those pictures with the valve cover breather and pcv still in place just got me wondering.
No ones complaining, just merely pointing out that it looked liked possible interference that would need to be included in the documentation on installation. It's not a big deal. I'll just weld up my own bracket and source a used washer bottle from another salaved yota that fits.
For those that are interested, theres 2 different threads that has relocation info for the bottles
1. Washer Relocation
2. another washer bottle solution
alia176
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I helped out with this project while Joey document this weekend and believe you me, it's a time consuming deal, to say the least. Four people climbing around an 80 while Joey made sure that we didn't simply complete a task w/o him documenting it.
I also got to drive a turbo'ed 80 and all I can say is SCHWIIIIIING.
We were suppose to go to Starbuck's but ended up joy riding up the hills to see how a turbo works in an 80. We were around 7,000' approx elevation near Flagstaff, AZ
So, imagine an 80 on 315s+4.88s+usual armor+five people (750lbs min) going up inclines w/o downshifting.
It just doesn't down shift and my mind was having trouble grasping this concept. It was running approx 6-7 psi with Air to Air Intercooler. Before anyone asks, the power button was turned OFF. It just doesn't need it. The owner asked us "hey, what's the purpose of this power button that I've never used?" I pressed the power button to make sure that the tranny did shift more aggressively and it did. Also, the owner did the valve body shift kit deal that others with FI engines have done. That tranny seriously just "hooked" up so nicely.
I also got to drive a turbo'ed 80 and all I can say is SCHWIIIIIING.
We were suppose to go to Starbuck's but ended up joy riding up the hills to see how a turbo works in an 80. We were around 7,000' approx elevation near Flagstaff, AZ
So, imagine an 80 on 315s+4.88s+usual armor+five people (750lbs min) going up inclines w/o downshifting.
It just doesn't down shift and my mind was having trouble grasping this concept. It was running approx 6-7 psi with Air to Air Intercooler. Before anyone asks, the power button was turned OFF. It just doesn't need it. The owner asked us "hey, what's the purpose of this power button that I've never used?"
I pressed the power button to make sure that the tranny did shift more aggressively and it did. Also, the owner did the valve body shift kit deal that others with FI engines have done. That tranny seriously just "hooked" up so nicely.
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Joey is including a new oil pressure sender, and a new vacuum check valve for the brake booster not to mention 100 pages of instructions you think he is going to let you pressurize the crank case?
Haha bingo. That last image is as far as we got before I had to catch the Amtrak to Los Angekes. I literally just walked in the door.
Did you take a pic of the one you drove? I'd be curious to see the turbo set-up.I helped out with this project while Joey document this weekend and believe you me, it's a time consuming deal, to say the least. Four people climbing around an 80 while Joey made sure that we didn't simply complete a task w/o him documenting it.
I also got to drive a turbo'ed 80 and all I can say is SCHWIIIIIING.
We were suppose to go to Starbuck's but ended up joy riding up the hills to see how a turbo works in an 80. We were around 7,000' approx elevation near Flagstaff, AZ
So, imagine an 80 on 315s+4.88s+usual armor+five people (750lbs min) going up inclines w/o downshifting.
It just doesn't down shift and my mind was having trouble grasping this concept. It was running approx 6-7 psi with Air to Air Intercooler. Before anyone asks, the power button was turned OFF. It just doesn't need it. The owner asked us "hey, what's the purpose of this power button that I've never used?"
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It’s part CX racing and part homebrew.
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It is pretty cool isn't it! People aways just want to ask when do you see peak boost? At what RPM do you see boost? but they don't realize that even a turbo out of boost is likely supplying some air and with the turbo you just seem to have more power everywhere. Now things really get exciting once you get over 15psi. lol
lolI helped out with this project while Joey document this weekend and believe you me, it's a time consuming deal, to say the least. Four people climbing around an 80 while Joey made sure that we didn't simply complete a task w/o him documenting it.
I also got to drive a turbo'ed 80 and all I can say is SCHWIIIIIING.
We were suppose to go to Starbuck's but ended up joy riding up the hills to see how a turbo works in an 80. We were around 7,000' approx elevation near Flagstaff, AZ
So, imagine an 80 on 315s+4.88s+usual armor+five people (750lbs min) going up inclines w/o downshifting.
It just doesn't down shift and my mind was having trouble grasping this concept. It was running approx 6-7 psi with Air to Air Intercooler. Before anyone asks, the power button was turned OFF. It just doesn't need it. The owner asked us "hey, what's the purpose of this power button that I've never used?"
NLXTACY
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It is pretty cool isn't it! People aways just want to ask when do you see peak boost? At what RPM do you see boost? but they don't realize that even a turbo out of boost is likely supplying some air and with the turbo you just seem to have more power everywhere. Now things really get exciting once you get over 15psi.
Boost is there the moment you touch the throttle. At idle the gauge rests in vacuum. But any amount of throttle and sure enough...boost
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Yep a big part of that is the torque converter stall speed. It is what allows us to use the bigger turbo, not be in positive manifold pressure too quickly but also not feel laggy, plus the overly rich OBD open loop and It all works together really well like the 80 was made for it.
Boost is there the moment you touch the throttle. At idle the gauge rests in vacuum. But any amount of throttle and sure enough...boost
no turbo lag!!!!Boost is there the moment you touch the throttle. At idle the gauge rests in vacuum. But any amount of throttle and sure enough...boost
Higher compression ratio (9:1) + correctly sized turbo with low boost sounds like the perfect no lag recipe for the 80.
When you are at highway cruising speed is the engine under any boost? In all of the previous turbo vehicles I've driven/owned boost was only during acceleration, unless you were really under load (steep hill or long climb at high speed).
When you are at highway cruising speed is the engine under any boost? In all of the previous turbo vehicles I've driven/owned boost was only during acceleration, unless you were really under load (steep hill or long climb at high speed).
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In this setup you shouldn't be in boost at cruise speeds unless your cruise speed is considerably higher than most. For example when I drove across country and my turbo is smaller than the turbo used in this kit. If I cruised at 83mph I was right on the edge of positive manifold pressure but if I dropped down to 78-80mph I was back in vacuum. So with a bigger turbo you shouldn't be in boost at cruise speed unless it is a major headwind, super heavily loaded, or going up hill.
Wait a minute....so
I think someone actually physically measured the 1FZ to have 8.7:1 or 8.8:1 compression ratio. I think it is buried in the @hazard blueprinting thread. That is pretty ideal for a potential turbo motor. Terrible for N/A.
I think someone actually physically measured the 1FZ to have 8.7:1 or 8.8:1 compression ratio. I think it is buried in the @hazard blueprinting thread. That is pretty ideal for a potential turbo motor. Terrible for N/A.
