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Bolt on turbo kit (4 Viewers)
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Well don't get too excited, this is not an active project for me right now. If I was still at my old job I would have had plenty of time and money to make this happen but right now I am just the idea man. I am kind of pitching the idea to a couple of people that I know have the capability to pull this off and would do a very good job.
My idea would be for the base kit to include everything you need to bolt on a turbo to a stock 80. This kit would be a J-pipe from the stock manifolds and would likely come in right around $3k or so. I like the option to add an intercooler as I think it is an important piece of the FI puzzle. One of the smart guys I talked to had the idea that if done properly the intercooler add on could be used for either the Turbo kit or the TRD SC......
Who knows if this will take off, but I wanted to see if there was actual interest before I spent any more of my time working on a solution.
Safari uses a large air to air intercooler in front of the radiator. They remove the factory trans cooler and install an aftermarket trans cooler between the frame rails with a diverter to channel air flow and remove the center support for the grill to make it all fit.
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Yes and I think an Air to Air is a nice solution for highway running, but it leaves a little to be desired when off-road. And an air/water allows a smaller heat exchanger with a fan to fit up front without relocating anything, and you could make a kit that would work for both the turbo and all the people that have the TRD SC. Many of the Aussie guys also relocate the trans cooler, and install a 600mmx300mmx75mm air to air, but to keep things a little more simple and to reduce the complexity of the "bolt-on" kit, I think air/water might be a better fit, but as always I am open to arguments.
So something like this if the heat exchanger and fan can fit in the front and the intercooler sits in the OEM washer bottle location?
Water to Air Intercooler
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Yes something like that but not garbage. lol. The intercooler would fit between the SC and throttle body. That is the space I would want to make work.
similar to this.
similar to this.
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That is the whole point of this thread.... To gather interest to see if making a good high quality kit is something actually worth doing. haha.
So all of the parts will be custom made? I figured that all parts would be sourced i.e. turbo, manifold, intercooler etc from manufacturers who already made the product and then put together to make a complete kit.
Yes something like that but not garbage. lol. The intercooler would fit between the SC and throttle body. That is the space I would want to make work.
similar to this.
I'm down for one. I'd love to have the setup shown there. Need to IC the S/C I installed last month. Was thinking I'd try to replicate Blarsens A/A IC but an A/W would be better. Do like the WRX hood scoop he was running though . . .
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There isn'y currently a air to water with the inlet and outlets in the right places. The one above has custom end tanks and while yes the core would not be custom made it would be a standard core, but the end tanks would be custom for the kit.
How about a bolt on kit without all the fancy intercooler? Not all of us need that much more power and simpler and more reliable the solution is the better. The factory SC didn't come with a cooler because Mr. T doesn't think it needs one at certain setting so if we can do a smaller turbo (say 45mm) with waste gate spring of 5-6lbs (similar to factory SC) then we may not even need an IC. Of course other people want more power so they can trick it out to their hearts content. I really think having both options would be great.
Also at low speed turbo really isn't going to do much and IC isn't going to do anything at all unless there is a fan and even that won't be all that effective, but why does anything one need that much power at slow speed? Only reason I can think of is Utter devotion to replace parts on the truck.
Also at low speed turbo really isn't going to do much and IC isn't going to do anything at all unless there is a fan and even that won't be all that effective, but why does anything one need that much power at slow speed? Only reason I can think of is Utter devotion to replace parts on the truck.
I have never seen an all that high quality turbo system without an intercooler. Any amount of forced induction will benefit from an intercooler or cooler intake air. Safari turbo found it beneficial to use an intercooler running only ~5psi of boost.
Smaller turbo presents a different problem. It will reach full boost before the computer has kicked into closed loop and started dumping fuel, creating an extremely lean condition.
Bottom line, turbo is not for crawling, it's for getting there at modern highway speeds
I wouldn't want to change the low end characteristics for crawling, personally. I like the simplicity of an A/A intercooler and have zero plans to run a snorkel, so I don't mind losing the factory air box.
FWIW Hanksville Hot Rods at one point in time was doing the turbo and V8 exhausts for Slee, and was going to offer an 80 series exhaust kit. Not sure what happened there, but could be worth visiting. Trying to ram extra flow through a nearly 30 year old exhaust may not be the most efficient.
@Heckraiser I was planning on getting that turbo on this spring, but life said otherwise and am now looking at fall. I'll start a thread on here when that happens.
FWIW Hanksville Hot Rods at one point in time was doing the turbo and V8 exhausts for Slee, and was going to offer an 80 series exhaust kit. Not sure what happened there, but could be worth visiting. Trying to ram extra flow through a nearly 30 year old exhaust may not be the most efficient.
@Heckraiser I was planning on getting that turbo on this spring, but life said otherwise and am now looking at fall. I'll start a thread on here when that happens.
As someone that's got a CX kit installed with a w2a intercooler setup I'm more interested in a plug and play piggyback solution, that can also control the transmission as well as someone that's got a great base knowledge of how these ECU's work to hook it all up... with the right injectors/fuel pump/etc to allow me 15+ lbs of boost.
Currently running on as much boost as the factory ECU will allow.... in this instance about 3.5lb before it goes lean.
Currently running on as much boost as the factory ECU will allow.... in this instance about 3.5lb before it goes lean.
I talked to Hanksville when I was having my exhaust leak problems, their quote was $$$$$. Let me know if you're having second thoughts on the turbo (might consider taking it back
BTW, moving back to your hood in about 6 weeks 
Just a reminder for the water to air intercooler options
Water to Air Intercooler Kit for the TRD Supercharged FZJ80 Land Cruiser
Water to Air Intercooler Kit for the TRD Supercharged FZJ80 Land Cruiser
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I would like to clarify Mr. T's thinking at the time the 1FZ-FE SC was being developed. I had conversations with the TRD staff at the time. The reasoning was not that the SC could be implemented without an IC but more the fact the price point to include an IC made it cost/price prohibited. The market demand for an intercooled kit for the LC and other Toyota models at twice the price would be very small.
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The option would be to buy the "base" kit, which would not include the intercooler and be able to upgrade or start with the intercooler setup. I do believe everyone who goes FI should have an intercooler however I know swallowing the entire cost at one time might have some people bowing out, but if they did get the base kit and felt the difference of how a nice cold morning compares to a hot day they would be on the phone to order the intercooler. lol. But it really is better for the longevity of the engine.
