Yeah, Georg Esterer is a good guy. He's Jason Darling's evil twin brother.
That's him in the hat below.
That's him in the hat below.
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I'm intrigued with this twin stick idea, any pictures anywhere? Jason Darling has one, but I would have to buy the entire transfer case with it. Normally I wouldn't mind, but the holidays have me on a strict budget. I'm thinking welding it would be my best cheapest bet for now. Any thoughts?
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Yeah, Georg Esterer is a good guy. He's Jason Darling's evil twin brother.
That's him in the hat below.
http://www.tlca.org/trails/2009/0910/images/tucker2.jpg
Dave thanks, is there anything you don't have pictures of? I'm gonna assume it's the guy with shorts on since they are all wearing hats
Nah, Georg's twin stix bolt right in place of the thing you broke. Some fab involved with assembling the new shifters tho...
See here:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/345292-twin-stick-install.html
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Better link, the last one never finished...
https://forum.ih8mud.com/merchandise-storefront/303124-split-case-twin-stick-kits.html
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Thanks for posting it, I just ordered the part that broke from George and he threw in a free gasket. Good guy, will be getting those twin sticks from him down the line if they can work with the nv4500 tranny. Right now I need this rig ready before Christmas and I can't justify spending more on it.
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Roger that!
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Got done with most of my tests, and it's my weekend with my son. Hopefully the weather will cooperate and won't ruin our plans. In the meanwhile here are some teaser pics of the continuous work in progress that never ends and goes on indefinitely.
first you recycle a cardbaord box
second you learn how to spell cardboard
then you put it in a 3d printer named Jacob and come up with this
another angle
Side by side
And finally this is where it stands right now
This new larger angled design should remove all restrictions and pool the water at the bottom away from the filter. It's not a final product yet so be kind with your criticisms. I just came up with what I wanted but the talent is Jacob, the guy who is making it happen.
If I'm not on, y'all enjoy the weekend.
first you recycle a cardbaord box
second you learn how to spell cardboard
then you put it in a 3d printer named Jacob and come up with this
another angle
Side by side
And finally this is where it stands right now
This new larger angled design should remove all restrictions and pool the water at the bottom away from the filter. It's not a final product yet so be kind with your criticisms. I just came up with what I wanted but the talent is Jacob, the guy who is making it happen.
If I'm not on, y'all enjoy the weekend.
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Still not done.
here's it mounted in its spot
Here's a rough idea of what it should look like. the air filter is facing away from the inlet to lower the odds of water suction.
here's it mounted in its spot
Here's a rough idea of what it should look like. the air filter is facing away from the inlet to lower the odds of water suction.
Great Vehicle....these 60s are great rigs....though I have a question.
You chose a Cummins 4BT or B4T whatever you call it, any specific reason for that, as from the look and appearance of this engine it looks that this particular machine is designed for static applications like power generator or a water pump. In my opinion a B series Toyota motor, e.g 3B or a 13BT would have been a better option, lot easier to hook to the 60 gear box....There are a lot of other Toyota inline six diesel options to chose from.
I don't know what would be the difference between the cost but still.....
You chose a Cummins 4BT or B4T whatever you call it, any specific reason for that, as from the look and appearance of this engine it looks that this particular machine is designed for static applications like power generator or a water pump. In my opinion a B series Toyota motor, e.g 3B or a 13BT would have been a better option, lot easier to hook to the 60 gear box....There are a lot of other Toyota inline six diesel options to chose from.
I don't know what would be the difference between the cost but still.....
How about you do a little research before you try and tell others what "better" option they should have taken.
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HSUMBAL,
Thanks for looking. I agree with you an inline 6 Toyota diesel would have been ideal. I was leaning towards a 1HD-T with a 12HT as a second choice. I've been driving pretty much all the Toyota diesels since the war on terror kicked off, before that my dad drove Toyota diesels when we lived in Africa with no complaints other than rust. I must say the 13B and 3B would not have come close to my performance expectation for this rig. They are underperformers to begin with and would have done worse with all the added weight I now have.
I thought it would be easy to locate a 1HD-T and have someone do the swap, but the reality was the USA doesn't have those engines readily available. The engine itself would have cost me more than the complete cost of the Cummins, transmission and labor for swapping them. The economics of it was against putting a Toyota engine inside a Toyota frame. I started looking for alternatives and decided an ISUZU was the way to go. I found an engine that I wanted, but the deal fell through because I was in Iraq and the guy either thought he was getting scammed or sold it someone else before I could close the deal. I started looking for another one, but didn't find a clean one, instead I found a bunch of rebuilt 4BT Cummins for about the same price. It is true that the 4BT is used for power generation, water pumps, tractor equipment, on road vehicles and marine power, but I think that speaks more for its reliability and endurance. The parts are plentiful with abundant mechanics who know the engine. Long story short, I found an affordable alternative to my ideal engine and I must say I'm not disappointed at all. The best part is it has 0 electronics or computers, just one cable for fuel.
There are a few guys here on this forum who also run a 4BT, I'm sure they can attest to its performance.
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Look what showed up in the mail. I ordered this thing two days ago, Valley Hybrids just made me a happy customer.
Started to clean it up ..
oh and it came with a free gasket.
Started to clean it up ..
oh and it came with a free gasket.
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What gear oil are you guys using in the transfer case?
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Here's where it stands as of now. The transmission is separated from the adapter and transfer case to be resealed properly. I really hate having a small oil drip marking up the driveway and worse I really hate hearing about it from everyone. I'm going to reuse the oil I have in the transmission since that's a few weeks old, but I can't remember what oil weight to add to the transfer case. I know use the search button and I will. I just need real time recommendation and experience as far as brand, synthetic or not and so on.
On a separate note, I decided to have my buddy fab up a second shift lever for the 4WD. I truly want this to just be a mechanical rig with minimum electrical and vacuum accessories (exception is off course the winch and lights). However it will be a few months down the line. Trying to justify the current mods right at Christmas time and trying to avoid buying expensive gifts for others is a tricky thing.
On a separate note, I decided to have my buddy fab up a second shift lever for the 4WD. I truly want this to just be a mechanical rig with minimum electrical and vacuum accessories (exception is off course the winch and lights). However it will be a few months down the line. Trying to justify the current mods right at Christmas time and trying to avoid buying expensive gifts for others is a tricky thing.
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More to come after my last tests.
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Now that my tests are over I can write a better assessment of how the rig is handling.
I'm really happy with installing the governor spring and putting in new heavier duty valve springs. It feels like the engine found new life. I'm also very pleased with the air box. Jacob did a great job, it removed all previous restrictions, looks good and it looks like EGTs are lower a bit. The dual battery set up was a long time coming and I'm really happy with the way it turned out. Engine starts right away and the voltmeter doesn't show any drop when I turn on all the loads. The oil pressure is still about 10 psi lower since installing the remote filter. Putting in 90* elbows didn't help in that instance, but it does make it look better and it moves the lines out of the way. The slow gearbox drip seems to be fixed, the transfer case works great with that vacuum actuator replacement.
Here's a picture of how the engine bay looks right now.
The only thing left to do was put a bead of silicone to really make it air tight. I also plan on replacing those blue couplings with something heavier duty. I fear they might collapse under vacuum.
All that's left to do is to replace the steering gear box. The brake master cylinder is losing a bit of brake fluid, so that needs to be fixed too. As for now I'm just going to enjoy it over the holidays.
I'm really happy with installing the governor spring and putting in new heavier duty valve springs. It feels like the engine found new life. I'm also very pleased with the air box. Jacob did a great job, it removed all previous restrictions, looks good and it looks like EGTs are lower a bit. The dual battery set up was a long time coming and I'm really happy with the way it turned out. Engine starts right away and the voltmeter doesn't show any drop when I turn on all the loads. The oil pressure is still about 10 psi lower since installing the remote filter. Putting in 90* elbows didn't help in that instance, but it does make it look better and it moves the lines out of the way. The slow gearbox drip seems to be fixed, the transfer case works great with that vacuum actuator replacement.
Here's a picture of how the engine bay looks right now.
The only thing left to do was put a bead of silicone to really make it air tight. I also plan on replacing those blue couplings with something heavier duty. I fear they might collapse under vacuum.
All that's left to do is to replace the steering gear box. The brake master cylinder is losing a bit of brake fluid, so that needs to be fixed too. As for now I'm just going to enjoy it over the holidays.
Looking good. Does this mean that Jacob can now work on my FJ55 axle? 
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Looking good. Does this mean that Jacob can now work on my FJ55 axle?
is that why you've been silent, you think I took him away from you
? His place looks like a used car lot right now, a lot of trucks there.
is that why you've been silent, you think I took him away from you
I should just drive over and pick it up.
