QuackAxel
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Sort of true. The current Landcruiser is made in the Yoshiwara factory. Not sure if this used to be known as the Araco factory? It is a separate Toyota company called "Toyota Auto Body"
all time 4wd?
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QuackAxel
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Outsane
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Replaced the
Tre and stabilizer are less then a year old.
I am pretty sure it's all in good order. The steering is just lighter and I don't have to fight the steering wheel when cruising. Maybe I am just weak and need to visit the climbing gym more often.
I only get into the snow when we seek it out.
Tre and stabilizer are less then a year old.
I am pretty sure it's all in good order. The steering is just lighter and I don't have to fight the steering wheel when cruising. Maybe I am just weak and need to visit the climbing gym more often.
I only get into the snow when we seek it out.
haha, I don't expect your too weak to operate the steering wheel.
It is curious though how some people notice considerable difference while others not at all.
Great picture! I need to get out and do some snow wheeling soon myself. Got a bug with the CDL, or rather it seems no power to the CDL switch that I have to get sorted out shortly, but I've just lengthened the V-bar chains and studded the snot out of the iroks so I'm definitely itching to get out too!!
Dave 2000
Not all Land Rovers are useless!
Assuming your centre differential lock is off, then there is something very wrong with your steering gear. To add to this thought, just how much steering input are you applying, surely it is mild bends?
Another thought is the steering variable load sensor is not working? Common in UK models, steering gets very light when parking for example, as you speed up it becomes more weighted.
Regards
Dave
Outsane
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Center diff is unlocked
I don't think I have ever seen a variable load sensor on my steering.
I don't think I have ever seen a variable load sensor on my steering.
I'll say that with the hubs locked, the steering feels more sluggish? Not exactly hard to turn, but more resistance. I can see how this might add up over a thousand mile drive.
I had a front auto-locker (Lokka) for awhile. Driving with the hubs locked and the transfer case unlocked was interesting. It would roll along fine, then randomly pull to one side. Not impossible to drive, but I definitely wouldn't let anyone random person take the wheel.
I had a front auto-locker (Lokka) for awhile. Driving with the hubs locked and the transfer case unlocked was interesting. It would roll along fine, then randomly pull to one side. Not impossible to drive, but I definitely wouldn't let anyone random person take the wheel.
Outsane
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Just drive 1100 miles this weekend
Dave 2000
Not all Land Rovers are useless!
Perhaps not on your model? Certainly stock on the VX models in the UK.
I still think there is an issue given the minimum steering inputs on the freeway, on slower road with more acute bends you might feel something, this would certainly show up an issue.
I drove my 80 with no front propshaft (centre differentiallocked of course), and around town did not notice any difference, at higher speeds around bends the rear was continually trying to push the 80 into understeer.
Even if the hubs are unlocked and the CDL is engaged, or the VC (assuming you have one but unlikely) was seized this still would not give the symptoms you describe.
Try to 'feel' if the weight on the steering is bias in one direction or the other, or perhaps a little more scientific, ask a company with a rolling road/ inspection station run your front wheels on the rollers, they are more than sensitive to pick up any resistance to rolling with or without the hubs locked.
Just throwing this out there, have you or someone else replaced the brake servo or booster or is it looking a little rusty, perhaps 'hissing' or the motor recently been playing up particularly on idle? An incorrectly adjusted booster ould cause the front brakes to drag ever so slightly, in a worst case scenario, an incorrectly adjusted booster can actually bring your vehicle to a stop once you have driven a couple of miles without you touching the brake pedal!
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Dave
Outsane
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@Dave 2000
I am not not having an issue...
steering is just lighter on the freeway with the hubs unlocked.. there is no pull in any direction.
I don't think pulling the drive shaft is the same as unlocking the hubs.
It's true I do no have a viscous coupler any more. So it's pretty much pure rear wheel drive most days.
I am not not having an issue...
steering is just lighter on the freeway with the hubs unlocked.. there is no pull in any direction.
I don't think pulling the drive shaft is the same as unlocking the hubs.
It's true I do no have a viscous coupler any more. So it's pretty much pure rear wheel drive most days.
How does this work? There's only one power steering pump listed for all 80s. The pressure/volume is controlled by a simple "flow control valve assembly", i.e. an orifice. There are six variants, 44330-33010 through 44330-33060. So how does the UK VX have variable pressure?
They use a different box, with a sensor.
Are you saying that the diesel 80s had variable power steering, or just pointing out that there's a different pump assembly for diesels?
Non-US 80 series trucks (depending on market specification) were quite different when it came to steering and suspension.
Both.
Interesting. The diesel PS pump looked like the same basic design, a vane pump with a few different pressure/volume control orifices available. I had to do some reading about how variable assist even works.
Turns out it's a feature of the steering gear, not the pump. There's a pressure control solenoid on the VX and VXL 80s:
44020-60010 Valve Assy, Pressure Control W/solenoid Valve [01.1990 - 01.1998] FJ80,FZJ80,HDJ81,HZJ81..VX,VXL
It's 44020 in this diagram:
Compare to the general market LHD FZJ steering gear:
Searching for the steering gear part number, it appears to have been available only on Japanese and RHD general market vehicles, no LHD vehicles.
