Are you still liking the RG’s? How has the stock suspension coped with the E rated tires? How’s the noise?
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Are you still liking the RG’s? How has the stock suspension coped with the E rated tires? How’s the noise?
gaijin
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I would change out those alloy wheel lug nuts and replace them with the appropriate steel wheel lug nuts before you find yourself losing a wheel at speed. In engineering terms, that would be "bad!"
Seriously, those lug nuts are dangerous.
HTH
Edit to add:
The torque spec for those OEM lug nuts on OEM alloy wheels is 97 ft/lbf, but the torque spec for the correct steel wheel lug nuts on steel wheels is 154 ft/lbf.
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It was one of the first questions I asked when I got these wheels, and I have been told repeatedly by my local dealership that these are the correct ones to use.
To be clear I’ve put probably 20k miles on these without a single issue, so apparently my luck hasn’t run out yet.
You wouldn’t happen to be able to point me in the right direction re: part numbers would you? Might make this conversation more fruitful with my local parts dept
Will do first thing tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up —saving my hide as usual!
gaijin
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Just for reference, here is the part and price from one online Toyota dealer: McGeorge Toyota Online Parts Shop
HTH
afgman786
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gaijin
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35's, UCA's, Small body mount trim, 2" lift and NV305 Methods with +20 Offset. VERY easy to do and zero rub. Nothing is "extensive mods"
I'm counting spare tire carrier, lift kit and UCAs as the "extensive" mods, but point taken.
prwillard2
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Can anyone confirm that the 17" Icon Vector 5's will fit on a 2016+ LX570 because of the larger brakes? Tried to find it in here, but didn't have any luck.
I’ve just installed those exact Icons on my 2016 LC200 so you should be ok assuming the brakes are the same in the 570.
marketShark
Spider 2 Y Banana
I'm down to the warning treads and need to replace my tires. I have gone over the tire and wheel database + RW threads on MUD.
I learned that the J**p Gladiator Rubicon comes stock with 285/70/17 the very same size recommended on our RW setups. Given J**p owners' propensity to upgrade setups immediately after purchase, I have seen several sets on CL, FB marketplace and the forums. Either BFG AT or Falken Wildpeak factory sets.
Question is: Will load range or other factors be an issue on my 200? I have bumpers front and rear, stock interior and nothing on the roof
I learned that the J**p Gladiator Rubicon comes stock with 285/70/17 the very same size recommended on our RW setups. Given J**p owners' propensity to upgrade setups immediately after purchase, I have seen several sets on CL, FB marketplace and the forums. Either BFG AT or Falken Wildpeak factory sets.
Question is: Will load range or other factors be an issue on my 200? I have bumpers front and rear, stock interior and nothing on the roof
marketShark
Spider 2 Y Banana
My tire adventure continues. A price comparison for anyone reading, I got all 5 J**p Gladiator Rubicon 285/70/17 BFG AT factory take offs with less than 1k miles for $500 on a local club forum
He complimented my FJ45, and his neighbor even came over to see it
By the time I sell the rims, I don’t expect to be out of pocket much this round
He complimented my FJ45, and his neighbor even came over to see it
By the time I sell the rims, I don’t expect to be out of pocket much this round
prwillard2
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Internet says the max load for those C load tires is 2755 pounds. So you've got a GVWR max of 11020 pounds.
Let's us know how they ride.
gaijin
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Internet says the max load for those C load tires is 2755 pounds. So you've got a GVWR max of 11020 pounds.
I'm not sure what the point of your post is @prwillard2 , but it appears you may be confused about GVWR and tire Load Limit.
Here are some facts:
LC200 GVWR is 7385 pounds
LT285/70R17 Load Range C tires have a RCTIP of 40psi on the LC200 which yields a Load Limit of 2315 pounds/tire (for 4 tires that's 9260 pounds)
LT285/70R17 Load Range D tires have a RCTIP of 40psi on the LC200 which yields a Load Limit of 2315 pounds/tire (for 4 tires that's 9260 pounds)
LT285/70R17 Load Range E tires have a RCTIP of 40psi on the LC200 which yields a Load Limit of 2315 pounds/tire (for 4 tires that's 9260 pounds)
So... for tires of the same size, inflated to the proper Recommended Cold Tire Inflation Pressure for the vehicle, tire Load Range has nothing to do with tire Load Limit or vehicle GVWR.
To address the question @marketShark asked, the Load Range C tires you purchased have more than enough Load Limit to be used safely on your LC200.
HTH
prwillard2
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I have no clue how you got those numbers or values. I am a noob regarding vehicles, but glad to see that load range C tires are good to go. Would you recommend a heaver than C range tire if you're towing with the LC or LX570? Hypothetical at ~6500lbs trailer
gaijin
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I highly recommend Load Range E tires for everything, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask for your particular use case. The E-Rated tires have thicker sidewalls which mean much higher abrasion resistance which yields better durability both on and off road. I have not experienced any noticeable difference in ride comfort compared to C or D-rated equivalent tires when inflated to proper pressures - others obviously have different opinions, so... YMMV.
HTH
As one that tows on the heavier end, you won't be towing anything on the 200-series platform that's going to exceed the capacity of a Load Range (LR) C tire.
Interesting story - during Ford Raptor development, KO2s were spec'd for factory fitment. BFGoodrich at the time only had LT315/70R17 in LR-E. Engineers were not satisfied with the ride quality provided by this tire. As a large enough client, Ford provided BFGoodrich with requirements for a LT315/70R17 in LR-C. Hence the existence of this tire on the market, in a size where you'll generally only see LR-E options available.
Load ranges do not necessarily always equate to durability as it did historically. Ply "rating" is different today, where previously it did literally mean the number of plys. Load range speaks more specifically to structure - the ability to support higher inflation pressures to carry a load, and keep the tires within an envelop of operational temperature.
If you look at some tire sizes available in both LR-C and LR-E, weights can be very similar with the possibility of the LR-C tire to actually be heavier. This may suggest it has as much plys, sidewall, and potentially similar durability. The difference is likely more in the high tensile wire - tighter pattern, heavier gauge, rather than a lot of difference in the sidewall plys.
Depending on your use, it may be a good trade for better ride quality to use a LR-C tire if available. Independent of Load Range, not all AT tires are created equal. Some models have notably better ride quality and NVH than others.
That said I'm with @gaijin and prefer to use a LR-E tire for my purposes.
