100 Series long travel kit
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A legit LT kit costs 7-8k without shocks for a Toyota application. I meant 3-4k without the shocks - my bad for saying "the kit", poor choice of words.
Here is another way to say it. I'd probably drop the coin for a real LT kit if pricing was in line with other options in the market. I'm not spending LT kit money to be able to more effectively choose my spring rates.
If I recall correctly, it was similar to the results with extended shocks and UCAs.
I suspect that it might have something to do with KOR apparently closing up shop, but it would’ve been nice to have for the historical information.
But are you willing to spend ~$8k (number pulled out of my ass) on a LT kit, not including the fiberglass fenders, or taking a sawzall to your front fenders?
$3-4K is probably a bit optimistic for a long travel kit.
Excuse the numbering, I dont feel like dividing up your post into multiple quotes:
1.) Yes, I was comparing to an aftermarket suspension. Thought that was obvious.
2.) I'd probably cut the fenders and run fender flares, although IIRC the guy referenced in post #70 did not have to. I have his thread bookmarked, but dont have the time to find it right now.
3.) You misread what I said. 3-4k is what I thought the KOR cost, sans shocks. If not more, and that was 2018 dollars... so more now. And I wouldnt spend that. However I would strongly consider a real LT kit priced around what other Toyota LT kits are priced at.
skyblue
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Just purely from a 100-series-loving-consumer-with-a-propensity-for-spending-money-on-said-vehicle-to-improve-appearence/comfort/capability standpoint, and just pulling uninformed numbers out of the air, I think I would spend 4-5k (all in) on a coilover conversion with the same 2.5" lift that I currently have and probably 7-10k on a coilover/LT kit if it would offer a 3-4" lift and buttery comfort with coil/shock customizability.. Possibly up to 12k when it has proven itself as very legitimate and the wrinkles are ironed out...
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total chaos LT kit for a 1st gen tundra is $3.6k and nets about 12.5" of travel. + 7" track width
- Need to buy shocks, longer axles, and fiberglass fenders
For someone like @eimkeith to have a weld-on bucket and scab plate kit, wouldn't be terribly out of the question. That guys makes some great stuff and it's all really reasonable priced. The issue is going to be, you need custom axles, you need custom glass, and no one seems willing to take the dive.
From a product development standpoint, it's tough to develop a long travel "kit" that requires welding skills for the shock buckets, that ALSO relies on another vendor developing fiberglass fenders, and another vendor developing axles... none of those are insurmountable, but they aren't happening under one roof and there aren't that many 100 series dentists wanting to chop and go custom fab. Your money goes further on an 80 or a 200.
The 100 is heavy and there aren't that many out there relative to tacos and 4runners. which are lighter and faster and what the pre runner crowd are after...
total chaos LT kit for a 1st gen tundra is $3.6k and nets about 12.5" of travel. + 7" track width
- Need to buy shocks, longer axles, and fiberglass fenders
2000-2003 +3.5 Inch Long Travel Kit: Bushing Uca - 1st Gen Tundra
2000-2003 +3.5 Inch Long Travel Kit: Bushing Uca - 1st Gen Tundra Designed For Improved Off-road Performance And Durability.
www.chaosfab.com
For someone like @eimkeith to have a weld-on bucket and scab plate kit, wouldn't be terribly out of the question. That guys makes some great stuff and it's all really reasonable priced. The issue is going to be, you need custom axles, you need custom glass, and no one seems willing to take the dive.
From a product development standpoint, it's tough to develop a long travel "kit" that requires welding skills for the shock buckets, that ALSO relies on another vendor developing fiberglass fenders, and another vendor developing axles... none of those are insurmountable, but they aren't happening under one roof and there aren't that many 100 series dentists wanting to chop and go custom fab. Your money goes further on an 80 or a 200.
The 100 is heavy and there aren't that many out there relative to tacos and 4runners. which are lighter and faster and what the pre runner crowd are after...
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And maybe a legitimate reason to add “Raptor lights” in the grill!
Camburg's is 5k with billet arms and axle shafts for a 4runner/Taco. Gets 13" of travel. Moves the front wheel forward 1" to eliminate the need to run fiberglass fenders (can just trim and run flares). 2" of track width per side.
They are already designing something similar for the 300. Obv costs more because of Land Cruiser tax.
Camburg Toyota 4-Runner 10-22 | FJ 10-14 Trail Series Long Travel Kit
Our new Camburg Trail Series Long-Travel kit bridges the gap between daily driver and race truck. We designed this kit with the ability to build up your truck in stages or all at once. With every new design project, we address what the truck needs, what features we want to incorporate and blend...
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Camburg's is 5k with billet arms and axle shafts for a 4runner/Taco. Gets 13" of travel. Moves the front wheel forward 1" to eliminate the need to run fiberglass fenders (can just trim and run flares). 2" of track width per side.
They are already designing something similar for the 300. Obv costs more because of Land Cruiser tax.
Camburg Toyota 4-Runner 10-22 | FJ 10-14 Trail Series Long Travel Kit
Our new Camburg Trail Series Long-Travel kit bridges the gap between daily driver and race truck. We designed this kit with the ability to build up your truck in stages or all at once. With every new design project, we address what the truck needs, what features we want to incorporate and blend...
Moral of the story.....
80 if you wan't SA, 200 if you want Fast.
If I remember correctly, the KOR lower contral arms cost around 5k alone and I don't recall any modification to the shock bucket. I was pretty vocal in that thread as they were advertised as "long travel" and they literally matched all of the factory mounting points and just added provisions for the coil over and the bump stop. It was a lot of money for no increase in travel and no consideration for overloading the factory upper shock bucket.
Agreed, and if it had just added a couple of inches of droop, you’d probably be talking to another KOR kit owner. I don’t know if it was the inability of KOR to articulate, or my cynicism, but it didn’t make sense to me.
Agreed, but considering that AHC models use the existing “shock mount” for more than just a shock, the question seems to be “how much additional shock support is really required?”.
Pretty vocal might be an understatement, my friend.
You were right though. 
Or 80's if you want a tractor that only has 1-1.5" more travel unless you spend a s*** ton of money or can fabricate on your own and spend a s*** ton of time... to get like 14" of travel.
AKA if you want SA just buy a JK and step into 19" of travel for like 3500 bucks.
Camburg 200/300 series aftermarket front control arms are 2600. For that price I would consider it. Just giving @Delta VS a data point for where market might be, because for ~4k there's no way I could stomach it.
I would be very interested in a long travel kit for my ‘04 100 series and could probably give you my truck for a couple months if it meant getting something done.
Hello, i ordered some Dobinson's parts and they're starting to arrive ,and i thought i would say what i ordered here so if anyone wants to replicate it they can. I ordered the normal long travel front shocks for the 100 series (MRA59-A786), their diff drop, torsion bars, and upper control arms. I really didn't want to mess with the front and mismatch shocks from other vehicles because of the added stress of our 35's and a worry for reliability. On the rear i ordered the (MRA59-A687) but after looking at the specs and comparing it to the (MRA59-A685), they both have the same minimum shock length (my biggest worry) but the (MRA59-A685) is 728mm at maximum length and the (MRA59-A687) is 674mm fully extended. I am on ahc now and have been tricking the rear sensor to move all fluid out of the shocks in low mode so i can measure the minimum shock length we need before the internals of the shock hit and when on bump stops the shock is 17.5" long and the (MRA59-A687) 16.5". both of the Dobinson's shocks are 420mm when fully compressed but after measuring for myself it will compress to 390mm or 15.3". for springs ive calculated that Dobinson's 80 series +440lb constant load springs will work great for a moderate build (roof rack, bigger spare tire, ect...) i ended up gong with the dual rate springs too. (C97-145VT) are the springs, they are 3.5" lift with no extra weight (100 series is heavier than 80 series) 3" with 440lb load, and 2.5" lift with 750lb load. i dont have a free weeekend to intall untill the 25th but i will update you guys when im done installing.
skyblue
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Phenomenal 
thanks, i think it should be pretty sweet. just hoping all of my math is correct.Phenomenal
What wheels and tires are those? And what sizes? I’m usually not into aftermarket wheels but damn that looks good.
thanks, that’s the most asked question on our instagram, they’re 35x12.5x17 bfg km3 on 17”method 703’s 17x8.5 35mm offset 6.2” back spacing. and no spacers
It looks great, but the extended Dobinson's shocks aren't a long travel set up.
dobinsons doesnt sell a long travel kit for the 100 series, so by using 80 series rear springs and dampers you gain 4" of droop compaired to the 3" mrr kit. this pertains to the rear, because there are no real options for a long travel front.