You guys are not going to believe this. Blew another head gasket today!

[Scamper]

Lemme see here...Ifin Ize answers "yessir" Dan puts the kybosh on the two-toners. Ifin Ize answers "nope" he's gunna kick some monotone butt. But wats if I'ma lyin to him

It's gone more than one color on it...how dat?

 

[cruiserdan]

Go back and re-read post #6..............

 

[Scamper]

Whew...as usual, I didn't read the fine print

 

[cruiserdan]

:hillbilly

 

[MH_Stevens]

Oh Dough. Seems the great Land Cruiser in the sky is testing you. Your caricature in the face of adversity is an inspiration to us all.

Now was this bad gasket design installed on all 80's, right up to the end of the run?

Mike S

 

[RavenTai]

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Now was this bad gasket design installed on all 80's, right up to the end of the run?

Mike S

yes, in fact some say the later trucks blow more often, the one I saw in the shop was a 40th

 

[Beowulf]

... before you posted this I was convinced it was the newer versions that blew.

You're whistling in the dark....

-B-

 

[scottm]

Amazing! I know how you maintain them, and to have two do this is unbelievable! It sounds like they do better when abused and neglected. My 40th was well maintained, but always seemed the lesser vehicle to my wife's '97, which was obviously abused and neglected in the past. And of course your bro-in-law's rig is the leading example of thriving under neglect.

I might have to re-think my wish that you still lived close. Of course you now have every tool I might need to work on my cruiser, hmm. Your garage can't be that well secured....

My insurance policy against all failures automotive is an extra car. I don't have room for it, but with all these high-mileage and problematic vehicles, I think I'd better hang on to the ancient Audi. As you can see, I've diversified among various brands to protect me from voodoo service managers

 

[cruiserdan]

I've diversified among various brands to protect me from voodoo service managers

That won't help you.......

 

[Beowulf]

I've diversified among various brands to protect me from voodoo service managers

I am trying the "lie and deceipt" strategy. I have developed this elaborate ploy to convince Dan I now have a green '97 Tacoma XCab. Some poor dude is wondering why the hell his beloved Taco has fallen to pieces.

-B-

 

[Skillet]

Great, now this gives me one more thing to worry about when I go on my two week journey through baja next fall.

Is it a good idea just to get it done on a '93 with 185K?
But then, that would beg the question, 'do I just get the engine rebuilt'?

Are the new head gaskets you get from the dealer redesigned for better longevity?

 

[cpg]

Good Question. I have a 96 with 165k runs perfect no leaks. Hate to tear into it when it may have another 50k/100k. But would hate to have it go in the middle of Baja.

 

[landtank]

They're all time bombs waiting to go off. It's just a matter if you would like it done at your convience and minimal expense or the opposite.

 

[MH_Stevens]

Statistics show (there are several surveys here that bear this out) that only 7% of FJZ80's suffer HG failure. In one of the past threads I did a financial analysis of the cost benefits of preventive HG replacement and it showed overwhelmingly that if it 'ain't broke dont fix it. Drive on worry free and if it goes just make sure it is replace correctly.

If over 10 years there is a 7% chance of failure and you drive 2000 miles out of a yearly 15000miles in Baja your chance of disaster are like 1 in a 100.

 

[landtank]

Statistics show (there are several surveys here that bear this out) that only 7% of FJZ80's suffer HG failure. In one of the past threads I did a financial analysis of the cost benefits of preventive HG replacement and it showed overwhelmingly that if it 'ain't broke dont fix it. Drive on worry free and if it goes just make sure it is replace correctly.

If over 10 years there is a 7% chance of failure and you drive 2000 miles out of a yearly 15000miles in Baja your chance of disaster are like 1 in a 100.

That's all real nice but I personally beleive that the more you use a machine the more likely it will break. And there is no way in hell I'd take a 11 year old vehicle with that kind of mileage south of the border without doing the HG.

 

[ace10]

mine returned from the shop on friday. HG replaced after sure-fire signs were present. coolant loss and creamy crud on the oil cap. she was just about ready to completely disintegrate. head was not milled, worse spot was 0.003 off.

1994 109K miles. mine since 80K. unknown maintenence prior, average maint. since. no overheat.

also had the shop replace every single hose and belt. many really, really needed it. a bunch of other stuff too, including the starter "rebuild". switched back to toyota red after a good flush or two. radiator was not gunked up.

i swear she is running smoother and with a little more gusto. my wallet is lighter, but at least something stupid isn't going to leave me or my wife stranded.

best of luck to you doug.

 

[honk]

This isn't such a big surprise - Doug's cruisers don't like him at all.

How long would it take YOU to blow your top if you had some guy contstantly sniffing your tailpipe ?

 

[MH_Stevens]

That's all real nice but I personally beleive that the more you use a machine the more likely it will break. And there is no way in hell I'd take a 11 year old vehicle with that kind of mileage south of the border without doing the HG.

The statistical analysis took into account variables like usage, and 100K on a Land Cruiser where the engine is due for a rebuild at 300,000 miles is nothing - it has just been broken in. Sure there is a gasket design fault (for which any honorable car maker would have done a recall) but don't let these horror stories let you forget what a solid build the LC is. That 100K LC would be a lot more reliable than a 30K Suburban (unless your name is Doug).

 

[DJForrestA]

I'd love to see those statistics. Seems as if everyone with a 1FZ has had a headgasket problem. I can't believe there hasn't been a factory recall. I can't believe Toyota could build such a great and complete truck and fall on their face with the powerplant. Seems to be corrected on the brand new stuff but the traded a better engine for independent suspension. Gain in one way and lose in another.

Wow, I'm not as mechanically gifted as most of you so I guess I will be having the Toyota Dealership do my HG when the time comes. Any guesses what it will cost if I have Toyota do it as a PM procedure?

Beating the engine swap drum here. Sounds like it would be a great time for that. I've been trying to research the torque and HP numbers and the increase seems quite significant.

 

[RavenTai]

Swap to what a SBC? over a HG replacement? Seams a very expensive solution especially if you are paying someone else to do the work.


BOUNDER, no one is bourn with a wrench in their hand. Any of this can be leaned, start with small projects work your way up, learn as you go. buy good tools as you need them. you will coem out way ahead in the long run.