Winter tires and driving

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What should I do for only 7 days of snow or ice driving per year?

I live in Texas, but like to drive to Crested Butte over Christmas.

The packed ice on Monarch Pass and around CB freak me out.

I’ve got about 36k in the original tires on my 2016.

If you are running the original tires that came on your LC and have 36K on them, I suggest new tires anyway. The OEM tires are lousy on snow/ice to begin with and won't be any fun with 36K on them. Pick a new tire that fits your driving needs (Michelin MS/2 if highway and your choice of AT tire from recommendations on here if substantial off-road). Any newer, better tire will be fine for 6-7 days of snow/ice per year if you keep your speed in check. And the suggestion above to carry chains if something extreme comes up is a good one.
 
I'm stuck and could use some opinions/advice. With how good this winter is already looking (compared to the last 3 "winters") I've decided to do something other than my standard Ridge Grapplers for this winter. While I've grown up in CO and never owned actual "winter tires" and have driven from CO to AK to NWT to YT in the winter successfully on AT & MT tires I am at the point in life where why push it rather than just get the right tool for the right job. I live near Vail, CO so we get a fair amount of snow but not necessarily a ton of ice. Which is why I'm stuck. I have big concerns with the Nokians and Blizzaks being way too moderate of a tire tread for deep powdery snow (think offroad, unplowed roads, backroads, winter campsites in Montana, Alberta etc) while there is no question they will be bomber on the slick plowed ice/snow layer on I70 going through town etc. Duratrac and Cooper ST Maxx are both studdable tires with a still decently aggressive tread and seems like a good compromise. I just got back from Svalbard where the roads are solidly packed ice/snow for 5-6 months a year. Were I to be living there, or in Alaska or north east coast with tons of ice and constant packed roads I would worry less about aggressive tread for deep snow. My choice has basically come down to the Nokian Hakkapelite LT2 in a 285/70R17 or Cooper ST Maxx (Studded) in a 285/75R17 with me leaning towards the cooper. Will I be sacrificing too much in all the worlds by going with the Cooper with the more agressive tread over a 100% dedicated snow tire that will probably gunk up and be stuck in thick powdery snow? Thanks

Back in the "olden days", a "snow tire" needed an aggressive, deep tread to do its job. I've been REALLY impressed with modern winter tire technology and the ability of tires to stick to deep snow as well as slick snow and ice. I run them on all my cars here in Michigan, but not my LC because I don't use it much in the winter. As you do your tire research, keep in mind that a good winter tire doesn't necessarily need to look aggressive to be aggressive in snow. The Michelin X-Ice on my cars grip even the deep stuff with all those little sipes. The tire construction and materials release the snow and don't get clogged up.
 
Very nice choice. Very!!!

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Still trying to decide on which tires to get for the 200. It's down to R3 vs Hakka 9. I have Hakka 8 on the Tacoma, like them a lot, but maybe they are overkill. Noise is there, not too bad I was also thinking abotut LT2 in 275/75/18, but LT2 apparently readily lose studs.

Then there are also new Bliizak LTs in that size, but there are zero reviews of them.
 
Hakka 9s are great on the LX. Minimal road noise at 80mph. Certainly nothing that prevents you from having a conversation at normal voice levels.
 
I just put my R3 SUV's on this past weekend at the dealer, now looking for some snow to put them to good use :)
 
Hakka 9s are great on the LX. Minimal road noise at 80mph. Certainly nothing that prevents you from having a conversation at normal voice levels.

Not a huge problem in Tacoma either, but that's a loud truck compared to the LC (mine even louder with TRD exhaust).

I am leaning towards Hakka 9s, for sure.
 
I'm eating my words and putting the Blizzaks on for the winter. We had it snow all day Sunday into Monday, and it was not that much accumulation. The issue was the roads were warm and for all of Sunday the snow did not stick, but melted. It got into the teens overnight and by Monday morning Denver metro roads had a layer of ice covered by a light layer of snow. On one road, just the crown was enough to induce a slide at slow speeds into the curb.

IMHO even an AT with the RMA 3 peak/snow flake winter rated tires are not the same as a dedicated winter tire for those that need it.
 
If I were looking at your same circumstance I would install the LT2 and also Slee’s ARB compressor mount and an associated compressor.

The LT2’s would be good 99% of the time but that other 1%, if it is too deep for them at normal street pressure, I would drop the pressure to 12psi (understanding how it will effect the driving dynamics) and then refill to the correct pressure after you get off the deep stuff.

There should be absolutely nothing on an open public road that would stop this solution. You can still get plenty stuck off-road but this should get you to the hill for freshies. Otherwise, follow Arctic Truck’s recipe for dedicated snow wheeling success.

I've got an ARB compressor (and rear locker) in my 200. Makes it easy for airing up/down. Exactly my buddy made a point of I need to look at how often im driving to ski or on mountain passes in the winter versus the very rare times I would be legitimately offroad in the winter and buy the tire for the 99% like you said. Funny, I had an arctic truck for a bit last month and got to do some solid glacier time with it. Great trucks and definitely purpose built. Not what I'm trying to do with the 200 lol. (Did used to have a 2dr JK on 40's with beadlocks that when aired down did bout damn near the same thing out in the mountains in the winter)

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I've got an ARB compressor (and rear locker) in my 200. Makes it easy for airing up/down. Exactly my buddy made a point of I need to look at how often im driving to ski or on mountain passes in the winter versus the very rare times I would be legitimately offroad in the winter and buy the tire for the 99% like you said. Funny, I had an arctic truck for a bit last month and got to do some solid glacier time with it. Great trucks and definitely purpose built. Not what I'm trying to do with the 200 lol. (Did used to have a 2dr JK on 40's with beadlocks that when aired down did bout damn near the same thing out in the mountains in the winter)

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That looks like an amazing experience! I'm definitely jealous!
 
Ordered Hakka 9s. Hakka 8 in the Tacoma are fine, can't go wrong with 9 in the 200 methinks.
 
Are all of y’all running stock tires? I had to order (5) Hakka LT2’s. I’m currently running 285/75/17. Have to drop to 285/70/17 for winter tires. Would’ve loved Hakka 9’s. But even dropping to run run a 285/70 I only saw the Nokian LT2’s and Arctic Claws without running an AT tire. Did I just miss the other sizes?
 
Are all of y’all running stock tires? I had to order (5) Hakka LT2’s. I’m currently running 285/75/17. Have to drop to 285/70/17 for winter tires. Would’ve loved Hakka 9’s. But even dropping to run run a 285/70 I only saw the Nokian LT2’s and Arctic Claws without running an AT tire. Did I just miss the other sizes?

I run the 256/60-18. It’s just under 1” smaller I. Diameter than my summer KO2s.
 
My hakka r2s really came through during the storm we got in PA yesterday.
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Are all of y’all running stock tires? I had to order (5) Hakka LT2’s. I’m currently running 285/75/17. Have to drop to 285/70/17 for winter tires. Would’ve loved Hakka 9’s. But even dropping to run run a 285/70 I only saw the Nokian LT2’s and Arctic Claws without running an AT tire. Did I just miss the other sizes?

No, they definitely have a limited variety of tire sizes for what most of us prefer to run. You can tell their primary market is performance cars and SUV’s with relatively low profile tires.

I was kind of happy to be able to do the 275/65R20 to get the height I wanted. I just put them on the stock LX wheels.

Edit: There is a 315/70R17 that I would have liked to try on my 100 but I don’t know anyone that has that particular studded tire to know how true to size it runs. I know most here (200’s) wouldn’t go that wide.
 
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Are all of y’all running stock tires? I had to order (5) Hakka LT2’s. I’m currently running 285/75/17. Have to drop to 285/70/17 for winter tires. Would’ve loved Hakka 9’s. But even dropping to run run a 285/70 I only saw the Nokian LT2’s and Arctic Claws without running an AT tire. Did I just miss the other sizes?

After not being able to find 285/70-17 LT with studs I went 265/70-17 hakka 9s. Surprisingly they were only slightly shorter then my 285/70-17 ridge grapplers that have about 10k miles on them. Of course they narrower, but that is suppose to get better traction. I also liked the fact the hakka 9s are a newer design where the LT tires have been around a while and the reviews were not as great, ie losing studs.
 

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