What you need to know about 100 series aftermarket wheel options (1 Viewer)
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Since this is meant to be a guide, I'll throw my 2c in... based on my experience...
1. The tire/rim (wheel) combination is not a perfect cylinder. (duh).
2. Tires sizes don't tell the whole story. A 275/70R18 tire is 275mm wide, at the most bulbous part of the sidewall (section width), at a given rim width. The tread width can vary widely between 200-250mm.
3.The most crucial measurement, besides diameter is tread width.... and is rarely stated in the tires' specifications. It is crucial because it is the "shoulder" of the tire that usually first makes contact/interference with other parts of the vehicle. The section width can also make contact with the UCA but this is rather easy to remedy because the UCA moves up/down along with the tire during the suspension cycle.
4. If you take two identical tires and mount one on an 8" rim and one on a 9" rim (both with the same offset), The two tires shoulders will be in the same position, as the tire is centered on the rim. The 9" rim will indeed stick out 1/2" on both sides but it is nowhere near the critical interference point, the upper control arm. What will happen in this scenario, the section width will move out approximately 1/4" in both directions. Why only 1/4"? Because the tire tread width is fixed. Moving the rim 1/2" out does not move the sidewall 1/2" out, only about half as much.
1. The tire/rim (wheel) combination is not a perfect cylinder. (duh).
2. Tires sizes don't tell the whole story. A 275/70R18 tire is 275mm wide, at the most bulbous part of the sidewall (section width), at a given rim width. The tread width can vary widely between 200-250mm.
3.The most crucial measurement, besides diameter is tread width.... and is rarely stated in the tires' specifications. It is crucial because it is the "shoulder" of the tire that usually first makes contact/interference with other parts of the vehicle. The section width can also make contact with the UCA but this is rather easy to remedy because the UCA moves up/down along with the tire during the suspension cycle.
4. If you take two identical tires and mount one on an 8" rim and one on a 9" rim (both with the same offset), The two tires shoulders will be in the same position, as the tire is centered on the rim. The 9" rim will indeed stick out 1/2" on both sides but it is nowhere near the critical interference point, the upper control arm. What will happen in this scenario, the section width will move out approximately 1/4" in both directions. Why only 1/4"? Because the tire tread width is fixed. Moving the rim 1/2" out does not move the sidewall 1/2" out, only about half as much.
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This is good info. On topic number 4, this is what I was trying to get across good explanation and would add every tire size will effect that number a little differently. Just know going in it is a variable.
This is what I was trying to convey about how or why the wheel width doesn't really effect whether rubbing occurs because the critical point is where the tire rubs.
Ok, so I've read through this thread, and by in large.....I think it's the most informative one I've found this far on wheel sizing. I would really appreciate some input and guidance for 16" wheel options.
I just purchased my first land cruiser in Dallas. It's a 2007 and comes with the 18" factory rims. I run a 4x4 tour business and will be replacing the Tacoma with my new cruiser. So here we go....
I want to get a great looking 16" wheel for the cruiser, but I can't seem to locate any. I would prefer to have more sidewall for the added off-road benefits. The 285 75R 16 seems to be a really popular tire choice but frankly, I can't stand the stock 16" Toyota rims. Are there any options that resemble say the fuel wheels?
Or do I have to go with a 17" wheel at minimum?
Regarding tires....I Have been running the BFG KM2's on my Tacoma and move them. I guess I will need to consider the tread difference in my selection of wheel offset. I would consider running a K02 if it was the difference between rubbing and barely clearing.
Also, is there a good online website to shop for wheels with a filtered search on size offset etc?
I really enjoy the look of the truck on this forum.
Any help is appreciated
I just purchased my first land cruiser in Dallas. It's a 2007 and comes with the 18" factory rims. I run a 4x4 tour business and will be replacing the Tacoma with my new cruiser. So here we go....
I want to get a great looking 16" wheel for the cruiser, but I can't seem to locate any. I would prefer to have more sidewall for the added off-road benefits. The 285 75R 16 seems to be a really popular tire choice but frankly, I can't stand the stock 16" Toyota rims. Are there any options that resemble say the fuel wheels?
Or do I have to go with a 17" wheel at minimum?
Regarding tires....I Have been running the BFG KM2's on my Tacoma and move them. I guess I will need to consider the tread difference in my selection of wheel offset. I would consider running a K02 if it was the difference between rubbing and barely clearing.
Also, is there a good online website to shop for wheels with a filtered search on size offset etc?
I really enjoy the look of the truck on this forum.
Any help is appreciated
Thank you!
Out of that selection I would have to go with this size correct? 16 X 8 5 X 150 4.90" +10mm 19.0lbs
Would I be rub free with a 285 75R 16 tire?
Is this one of the only true aftermarket wheels that will just bolt on to a LC without spacers etc? I'm impressed with the weight of the rim. Are these strong enough to withstand lots of off road use on a loaded rig?
Yes that's the one for the LC or LX,
I don't have them yet but send a PM or email the guy at SCS,
He is very helpful...
I'm sure they would be fine for whatever your going to carry and do with your LC.
The other option is search for the 98-01? Stock 16" wheels.
Yup they are hub centric specifically for the LC. I do think you need new lug nuts though, ask him to be sure.
Most guys run the 285s with no issues, I do believe a little massaging of some plastic fender liner is needed sometimes though.
I don't have them yet but send a PM or email the guy at SCS,
He is very helpful...
I'm sure they would be fine for whatever your going to carry and do with your LC.
The other option is search for the 98-01? Stock 16" wheels.
Yup they are hub centric specifically for the LC. I do think you need new lug nuts though, ask him to be sure.
Most guys run the 285s with no issues, I do believe a little massaging of some plastic fender liner is needed sometimes though.
Thanks for all of the info! If you get a set on your rig before I do make sure to post up a photo on this thread. I'd love to see some more examples of 100's running this setup. The rig I just bought is a dark grey color so I was thinking about picking up 5 gold F5's. I think it should look pretty decent. My understanding is that we can fit a 285 75 16 underneath a cruiser without any modification...is that Correct?
From what I've gathered here, yes they fit.
Might be a while on the F5s for me as I scored a really great set of stock 16" wheels far cleaner than mine now.
I'm wanting to put 285s on them.
Nice. Have you landed on a set of tires yet? I've loved my KM2's out here in southern Utah. They have served me incredibly well! Minus the drone on the road.....
Do you think people will be interested in the 18" gunmetal grey rims that comes stock on an 07 cruiser? They've got a fresh set of BFG AT's on them 275/60R18?
Also, I may end up going to a 35" tire in the future. Would I be able to get a 35" tire on the SCS F5 wheels? If that's the case it would be a win win win for me!
Do you think people will be interested in the 18" gunmetal grey rims that comes stock on an 07 cruiser? They've got a fresh set of BFG AT's on them 275/60R18?
Also, I may end up going to a 35" tire in the future. Would I be able to get a 35" tire on the SCS F5 wheels? If that's the case it would be a win win win for me!
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I ran 295/75/16 ko2s on the SCS f5s and always had a little rub on the pinch weld and mud guards. I ended up trimming the guards and flattening the plastic over the pinch weld but I still always had some rub mid turn and at full lock. When I had the same tires on factory wheels I had zero rub. That +10 offset is just a little much in my opinion. I wish they were +20 or +30. I'm not sure how a 285/75 would have been. I think going to a 35 on the SCS with that offset would be tough. Probably have to do a body lift and extended bump stops.
Dang! I guess 285 is about as big as you can realistically go with the SCS wheels. Do you have a lift with your 295's? I'd rather have a perfectly functional rig over one with good looks and small sacrifices. I have to get all of the weight on my rig before lifting etc. I'll be running the 285's for quite a while.
How have the K02 tires served you? Do they handle mud well enough?
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I actually ended up selling the wheels and tires here on the classifieds a few weeks ago. I loved the KO2s and would have went with them again if they made them in the size I wanted. I wanted to go with a taller narrower tire and a wheel with more positive offset. I decided on Rock Warriors and Cooper ST Maxx in 285/75/17. I really like this setup. I am running a lift pushing droop to the acceptable limit. I also run SPC UCAS and I'm at almost +4* of caster, I know that may have a little to do with the pinch weld rub I had with the 295s, but I'm not sure how much.
But please don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the SCS wheels. They are lightweight, hubcentric, and they look awesome on a 100, they just didn't work with the direction I wanted to go.
295/75/16 KO2s mounted on SCS wheels VS. 285/75/17 Cooper ST Maxx mounted on Rock Warriors
But please don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the SCS wheels. They are lightweight, hubcentric, and they look awesome on a 100, they just didn't work with the direction I wanted to go.
295/75/16 KO2s mounted on SCS wheels VS. 285/75/17 Cooper ST Maxx mounted on Rock Warriors
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Lots of great info in here from all sides, love these kind of discussions and love to see what fits and what hits in the real world while being used etc... I have two 100's and one 200. I run the setup you described above on my 200(I know this discussion is about 100's
) but just wanted to clarify that setup works on the 200 series. Unless you were talking about it rubbing on the mudflap and lower inner plastic fender parts? It does not hit the fender and clears it for a full tuck(no additional bumpstops). After removing the mudflaps and cutting out some of the lower inner plastic lining I have zero rubbing. On my LX I roll a 18x8.5 with a 35mm offset and 33x12.50's, haven't had the LX offroad much(I'll take it out soon and flex it up and report back on rubbing) as I just got it so the jury is still out on if those will rub or not, so far no rubbing. Anyway just adding in my a couple of examples of wheel/tire combos! 
Informative thread, thanks! I'm looking to get more aggressive wheels for my hundy, i'd like to have the tires stick out about 1/2" from the fender. Right now they're tucked and i don't want to use spacers, had bad experience.
I wish I could have bought them from you! That would have been perfect for me.
I run the BFG KM2 255/85R/16 setup on my Tacoma and I LOVE it. Truly perfect setup for what I like to do. Tall skinny tires offer great benefits so I can understand the switch.
I would be curious to know more about why you chose to switch? On my Tacoma I had a great experience going from 285/75R/16 to the 255 setup. They tucked into my wheel wells perfectly.
Do you have to run spacers with the rock warrior wheels? Mind if I ask how much you had to drop to get a set? Could I run those with no spacers, stock ride height, and 285 tires?
Lots of great info in here from all sides, love these kind of discussions and love to see what fits and what hits in the real world while being used etc... I have two 100's and one 200. I run the setup you described above on my 200(I know this discussion is about 100's
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Nice 200! That's a great looking rig.
Can you post some additional photos of the LX so we can see more of the wheels? What brand are they? certainly keep us informed on your off-road experience. I would certainly like to know. Is it stock ride height?
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