What have you done to your 200 Series this week? (19 Viewers)

[TexAZ]

My Icon coilovers were leaking after the rebuild in February, so I spent a couple hours pulling them out for warranty work.
put in the stock shocks with 2.5" lift spacers. the ride is.....a little random. nothing bad, just not the crisp handling I have gotten used to.
It will do for the week or so that it will take to get the Icons back.

Since I had the shocks out, and have been having issues with driveshaft angles, I figured I'd do a little experimenting.
I used the adjustability of the SPC upper arms to "Push" the wheels forward to clear the body mount in the back of the wheel well.
I told the alignment shop, just go as far as they will go.......After blowing 3 napa CV boots (roadside fixes see moab to hell and back) I talked with SPC to see what they thought of the adjustment and if that was causing the issue.
I managed to push the wheels a little over an inch forward. According to SPC, that is TOO much. They said they never go over 3/4".
So without the shocks in, I jacked the wheel up to the stops and started tinkering and measuring. Nothing scientific, just a bunch of feeler gauges and trying to keep the wheel in the same spot turned to the worst clearance.


with the lower control arm all the way forward (front cam all the way in, rear cam all the way out) clearance between the wheel and the fender over 1"

with the cams set to neutral, clearance 1/8"

I set the cams at 1/4-1/2 between neutral and the limits and settled on 7/16" clearance.
Running 100% Toyota OEM hardware and dialed back the alignment, so hopefully no more driveshaft issues.


also, before Moab/Breckenridge I swapped the stock bumpstops for energy suspension extended bumpstops. As seen in these photos, the tire never hits the inner fender at full compression, 35" tire on 50mm backspacing on Tundra arms.

 

[Markuson]

also, before Moab/Breckenridge I swapped the stock bumpstops for energy suspension extended bumpstops. As seen in these photos, the tire never hits the inner fender at full compression, 35" tire on 50mm backspacing on Tundra arms.

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You wouldn't happen to have a link to the bump stops you added would ya?

My Timbrens are HUUUUGE in front...and limit up travel way more than I'd like. Need to tinker with alternatives.

 

[TexAZ]

Here you go Mark. Energy Suspension Part# 9.9101G

keep in mind, I have the Tundra arms. Don't know if it makes a difference in clearance, just that this recipe is working for me.

 

[Markuson]

Here you go Mark. Energy Suspension Part# 9.9101G

keep in mind, I have the Tundra arms. Don't know if it makes a difference in clearance, just that this recipe is working for me.

Thanks. And ya, I forgot about the Tundra difference.
@Taco2Cruiser mentioned an alternative bump-stop for the front, but I can't remember what it was called...

 

[Taco2Cruiser]

Thanks. And ya, I forgot about the Tundra difference.
@Taco2Cruiser mentioned an alternative bump-stop for the front, but I can't remember what it was called...

Wheeler's Front SuperBump™ Bumpstop Set

There you go Mark. I like these over Timbren and Energy. Made for off-roaders, unlike Timbrens which are made more for towing and highway applications. They are almost as tall as the others, but “smoosh” much easier and don’t limit up travel too much.

My FJ is visiting my garage right now (one of my LA buddies bought it, and is visiting) so if anyone wants a picture of the wheelers bumps, I can get one quick for yea.

 

[fireball]

What's the benefit to these ?

 

[Taco2Cruiser]

What's the benefit to these ?

Softer feel when bottoming out the front suspension. And with adding spacers, you can properly limit uptravel for large tire, unlike the Timbrens that don’t really limit uptravel upon a heavy suspension cycle and end up just loosing a lot of usable front end travel.

That was why I mentioned that Timbrens are great for towing applications, as that’s what they were designed for, but then people started applying them to off-road suspensions as a cheap alternative to hydraulic bump stops without really understanding the negative things they caused when off-road, like articulation.

 

[Markuson]

Wheeler's Front SuperBump™ Bumpstop Set

There you go Mark. I like these over Timbren and Energy. Made for off-roaders, unlike Timbrens which are made more for towing and highway applications. They are almost as tall as the others, but “smoosh” much easier and don’t limit up travel too much.

My FJ is visiting my garage right now (one of my LA buddies bought it, and is visiting) so if anyone wants a picture of the wheelers bumps, I can get one quick for yea.

Thanks @Taco2Cruiser! That one doesn't list the Land Cruiser...& I couldn't seem to find any that mentioned the LC...

Would that be the right one?

 

[Taco2Cruiser]

Thanks @Taco2Cruiser! That one doesn't list the Land Cruiser...& I couldn't seem to find any that mentioned the LC...

Would that be the right one?

It will work. On the factory bump stop, the bolt is permanently attached that holds it to the frame. If you look at your Timbrens, its just a normal bolt that is separate of the bumpstop, that way you can put in a longer or shorter, or different threat pitch bolt for different vehicles. The Wheelers are the same way, a normal bolt that holds the bump stop to your frame.

Remember, very few companies make truly specific products for models. Think of both Timbrens and Wheelers as rims, they are more general items that just need the right bolts to work with a wider variety of vehicles.

 

[Markuson]

It will work. On the factory bump stop, the bolt is permanently attached that holds it to the frame. If you look at your Timbrens, its just a normal bolt that is separate of the bumpstop, that way you can put in a longer or shorter, or different threat pitch bolt for different vehicles. The Wheelers are the same way, a normal bolt that holds the bump stop to your frame.

Remember, very few companies make truly specific products for models. Think of both Timbrens and Wheelers as rims, they are more general items that just need the right bolts to work with a wider variety of vehicles.

OK. Just wasn't sure whether you meant to point to that particular model, or the brand.

I'll play around with a set...along with a couple of the optional spacers they mention and see what best keeps my 35's in check. Now...to find a buddy with a forklift...
Thank you.

 

[fireball]

Front flaps and running boards gone.

Have a set of 34x10.5x17 KO2s on rock warriors that I'm hoping will fit for a bit without a lift.

 

[Willy beamin]

That truck is sparkling clean

 

[Markuson]

Wheeler's Offroad Bumpstops for 35's in front... Man these looks tall!

Hmmmm...

 

[Markuson]

Wheeler's Front SuperBump™ Bumpstop Set

There you go Mark. I like these over Timbren and Energy. Made for off-roaders, unlike Timbrens which are made more for towing and highway applications. They are almost as tall as the others, but “smoosh” much easier and don’t limit up travel too much.

My FJ is visiting my garage right now (one of my LA buddies bought it, and is visiting) so if anyone wants a picture of the wheelers bumps, I can get one quick for yea.

Q for @Taco2Cruiser...
This is what came after ordering those...
Timbrens installed... Wheeler's on the left.
They are HUUUUUGE. Not sure this is gonna help...
What do u think?

 

[TexAZ]

Well, you'll definitely limit your uptravel

 

[Willy beamin]

Hope those are squishy

 

[gaijin]

At what point does the reduced articulation become a bigger drawback than the advantages of a larger tire?

 

[Markuson]

Ya, these aren’t going in.
The point was to allow MORE uptravel than the Timbrens...which already limited uptravel more than necessary.

These are huge and even if super soft...they’d have to compress a full inch just to be as “short” as the Timbrens.

 

[mcgaskins]

I have 285/75/17s and wheel and have never had a need for aftermarket bump stops. Even when I had a JKUR on 37s with only 3.5" of lift I had to pull out the aftermarket bump stops to put the oem ones back in because they limited up travel too much. The only scenario I can think they'd come in handy is high speed HARD cycling the suspension like jumps

 

[TexAZ]

One scenario where it may be important to limit up travel, even before wheel contact is coil bind. If the travel is fullycompressing the springs such that each of the coils are rubbing against one another, you can damage the spring.
When I get my shocks back I'll try to duplicate the travel pics from last week with coilovers in to see how the springs look.