What have you done to your 200 Series this week? (14 Viewers)

[OregonLC]

I've heard that they [2016+ 8spd] hunt for gears a little more too.

I feel that in most cases it's the opposite. In the 6spd it might do the 6-5-6-5 shuffle, but in the 8spd it can contently stay in 7th (or 6th or whatever is good for the grade). With the added ratios it's more likely to keep the engine in the desired range. Plus, the paddle shifters make it super easy to make those shift limits when necessary.

I do, however, always drive in manual ('sport') with 6th set as the max in town. The economy bias of the 8spd bogs it down too much for my liking. I won't allow 8th unless over 60mph.

The later models with the 8 speed (2016+ I think) are a little slower than the previous years, but still faster than the hundy.

They (at least the LX) need a Pedal Monster to liven it up, but there's no perceptible change in acceleration.

 

[Simplespirit]

Just going off the times posted by the various performance rags - 2016 was 6.8, prior was 6.6. Probably not noticeable, but a difference none the less.

Edit - variances of about 2/10 second in with either trans. Some 6.7 on the 2016 and some 6.5 on prior years. I thought the 4.7 was just fine, but if I want to drive a sports car I just drive a sports car. With a manual.

 

[AZBoatHauler]

I've heard that they hunt for gears a little more too. I would love to test a 2006/07 LX470 and a 2008 LX470 back to back to really get a good feel. I've tested both weeks apart and the sales guys came with me and just kept talking so I didn't get a quality time with both.

I can’t say I prefer the 8 speed over my Tundras 6. Between the 5, 6, and 8 speeds, I think the 6 is the sweet spot.

 

[LX Cruiser]

Re. 8- and 10-speed transmissions, I suppose more gears to keep your motor in its power band has the trade-off of it actually using all those gears.

I can’t say I prefer the 8 speed over my Tundras 6. Between the 5, 6, and 8 speeds, I think the 6 is the sweet spot.

Between my two six speeds, I have to say I prefer the six speed as well.

 

[FULL T1ME]

I agree! The pre 2016 cruisers were faster and felt a lot better to drive. However, I will say I now just keep my 2020 in ECT power mode and that makes a huge difference. Especially at elevation here in Utah.

 

[OregonLC]

I agree! The pre 2016 cruisers were faster and felt a lot better to drive. However, I will say I now just keep my 2020 in ECT power mode and that makes a huge difference. Especially at elevation here in Utah.

They weren't faster, the pedal mapping is just more economy biased in the 16+. Add a throttle controller and it will behave every bit like pre-16 and makes the 8-spd very lively.

I think there's some metaphor to life about how a 2 lbs increase in pedal effort from a 200 lbs man in a 7,000 lbs vehicle can make such a perception change in vehicle performance. Pushing just a bit harder unleashes the same 383 horsepower, it just feels like you're working hard to get the delivery. Can't speak for the 16+ LC but 'power' mode in the LX makes very little difference compared to my 2013 LC.

 

[TeCKis300]

I test-drove a 2013 LX yesterday for the first time. Something seemed off about it. The ride was kind of wavy on the freeway and I noticed the ACH wasn't working. I am in the market for a 2006/07 100 series and open to the 200 because some prices overlap. In some of my research, it seems the 0-60 times are the exact same for those vehicles while the 200 is almost 100hp more. For those that have driven both, is that your experience?

Owned both of these - '06 LX470 and '09 LX570. LX470 is still with the family and sold it to my brother.

As you know, the 06/07 100-series had a stronger VVTi version of the 4.7L which made a difference over the earlier years. Solid power and very tractable on the low end. Where the 5.7L really shows its stuff is in higher speeds on freeways, hills, passing. Especially when doing work heavily laden or towing.

I tow a large travel trailer which drove the upgrade. The 200-series has larger capacities and shrugs off doing heavy work. Passing at speed is effortless. Even when fitted with 37s, it surprises me how willing it is to haul the mail.

 

[MRego]

I now just keep my 2020 in ECT power mode and that makes a huge difference.

I was doing that in my 2020 and honestly felt it was much jerkier than without it. I also did not feel much of a difference in terms of acceleration. Maybe the altitude influences somehow, since I am at sea level, and you are in the mountains.

 

[HighRanch]

I was doing that in my 2020 and honestly felt it was much jerkier than without it. I also did not feel much of a difference in terms of acceleration. Maybe the altitude influences somehow, since I am at sea level, and you are in the mountains.

I am in CO and I can speak for the 2016+ 8sp and it is really smooth acceleration on the mountain Hwys. Never seen it hunt for gears or accelerate in a jerky way. But, my 1st Gen Sequoia with its 4.7-liter V-8 4sp had a lot of get up, but it was always going into overdrive with any heavy acceleration.

 

[DrivenLyfe]

Owned both of these - '06 LX470 and '09 LX570. LX470 is still with the family and sold it to my brother.

As you know, the 06/07 100-series had a stronger VVTi version of the 4.7L which made a difference over the earlier years. Solid power and very tractable on the low end. Where the 5.7L really shows its stuff is in higher speeds on freeways, hills, passing. Especially when doing work heavily laden or towing.

I tow a large travel trailer which drove the upgrade. The 200-series has larger capacities and shrugs off doing heavy work. Passing at speed is effortless. Even when fitted with 37s, it surprises me how willing it is to haul the mail.


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I was surprised how the LX still handles the 37s, full skids and bumpers. I recently added the OTT tune which doesn’t increase much top end that I can tell, but does help down low.

 

[nigelsiam]

Owned both of these - '06 LX470 and '09 LX570. LX470 is still with the family and sold it to my brother.

As you know, the 06/07 100-series had a stronger VVTi version of the 4.7L which made a difference over the earlier years. Solid power and very tractable on the low end. Where the 5.7L really shows its stuff is in higher speeds on freeways, hills, passing. Especially when doing work heavily laden or towing.

I tow a large travel trailer which drove the upgrade. The 200-series has larger capacities and shrugs off doing heavy work. Passing at speed is effortless. Even when fitted with 37s, it surprises me how willing it is to haul the mail.


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This is exactly the comparison I wanted to know about...thank you. Some people want to compare an early 1998,99,2000 LX470 to the LX570 but that's not helpful. The 06/07 compared to the first years of the LX570 is where it's at. All things considered (I don't do any towing but maybe I would a little if I had some V8 power) leaving out the towing aspect would it be worth it to spend $5K more just to get the 570 in your opinion?

 

[TeCKis300]

This is exactly the comparison I wanted to know about...thank you. Some people want to compare an early 1998,99,2000 LX470 to the LX570 but that's not helpful. The 06/07 compared to the first years of the LX570 is where it's at. All things considered (I don't do any towing but maybe I would a little if I had some V8 power) leaving out the towing aspect would it be worth it to spend $5K more just to get the 570 in your opinion?

I have a soft spot for the 100-series. It's tidier bumper/bodywork gives it a more agile feel. 35s are easy to fit. Solid and stable and every bit an ox ready for work.

The 200-series is going to have more core strength and power to build from. More brakes. Things you can't necessarily upgrade on the 100-series.

I knew I was going to need the additional capacity to build into and tow an 8k trailer so the call for the 200-series.

The '06/07 100-series is plenty stout to tow up to 5k of weight solidly. Has less electronics and strong mechanicals. I wheel with a buddy that has a 100-series and both do the business no excuses. Can't go wrong with either.

 

[nigelsiam]

I have a soft spot for the 100-series. It's tidier bumper/bodywork gives it a more agile feel. 35s are easy to fit. Solid and stable and every bit an ox ready for work.

The 200-series is going to have more core strength and power to build from. More brakes. Things you can't necessarily upgrade on the 100-series.

I knew I was going to need the additional capacity to build into and tow an 8k trailer so the call for the 200-series.

The '06/07 100-series is plenty stout to tow up to 5k of weight solidly. Has less electronics and strong mechanicals. I wheel with a buddy that has a 100-series and both do the business no excuses. Can't go wrong with either.

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Man, your rigs look nice! Do you find the 100 has better visibility from the inside? I think it would have been nice to have those 3rd row windows be able to open. I love that on my 80. Coming from the 80 the LX470 does feel like luxury and power...way better brakes too.

 

[TeCKis300]

Man, your rigs look nice! Do you find the 100 has better visibility from the inside? I think it would have been nice to have those 3rd row windows be able to open. I love that on my 80. Coming from the 80 the LX470 does feel like luxury and power...way better brakes too.

Thanks! The 200-series has good visibility, but you're right the 100-series has lower sills still and awesome visibility. It's been awhile and I've forgotten but the power 3rd row window fold out was a nice feature.

 

[KilaCruiser]

The later models with the 8 speed (2016+ I think) are a little slower than the previous years, but still faster than the hundy.

Can confirm, my '13 felt more spirited than my '21... but the bigger brakes make up for it and I like it more at elevation.

 

[2021 LC200]

Can confirm, my '13 felt more spirited than my '21... but the bigger brakes make up for it and I like it more at elevation.

Did you try to use ECT power?

To be honest a Land Cruiser 200 can be driven more spirited but is not really the vehicle to throw around given its weight and height. Hardly a criteria to purchase one. I do like KDSS allowing decent cornering without feeling uncomfortable. I am sure AHC 200’s achieves the same. It is just a great if not the greatest all rounder.

 

[arbetrader]

I haven't driven any 100 series with the 5 spd (not to mention one with vvti) , I came out of a 1999 LX470 with the 4spd, and now have an LX570 (6spd) - and in our area in Southern BC there are a lot of hills, and we also regularly do backroad excursions etc (hilly mountainous driving on fsr type roads etc) - the difference between my 200 series and 100 series in that environment (accelerating up fsrs, braking etc) is just in a different league. The added brakes, 150hp/80+tq increases just move the dynamics to a different level. When you load a 200 series up with weight (tent/gear/bumpers etc etc) or even people it just doesn't seem to hamper performance like it did on my 470. For anyone wanting to do backcountry excursions and need it to double as a people hauler/highway rig (through mountains etc) I just don't see how the 200 series isn't a way better value these days. Anyway, just my .02

 

[TeCKis300]

I haven't driven any 100 series with the 5 spd (not to mention one with vvti) , I came out of a 1999 LX470 with the 4spd, and now have an LX570 (6spd) - and in our area in Southern BC there are a lot of hills, and we also regularly do backroad excursions etc (hilly mountainous driving on fsr type roads etc) - the difference between my 200 series and 100 series in that environment (accelerating up fsrs, braking etc) is just in a different league. The added brakes, 150hp/80+tq increases just move the dynamics to a different level. When you load a 200 series up with weight (tent/gear/bumpers etc etc) or even people it just doesn't seem to hamper performance like it did on my 470. For anyone wanting to do backcountry excursions and need it to double as a people hauler/highway rig (through mountains etc) I just don't see how the 200 series isn't a way better value these days. Anyway, just my .02

Spot on. The 100-series doesn't have the power, brakes or handling to drive very spiritedly in secondary mountain roads. It can be reasonably quick, but has low limits. Even with AHC and dampers in sport, roll resistance is not very strong and will be leaning way over and not fun with any load.

The 200-series, both AHC and KDSS, will make it a willing partner on back roads with strong roll resistance. AHC also has excellent body control and anti brake dive. With enough engine and brakes to keep much higher pace than one would expect of a 6k lbs+ rig. Even when laden with RTT and gear. All the way to the limits of the tire contact patch as the limiting factor. (More pressure in tires helps tall profile tires from rolling over and giving up prematurely) I'm the odd owner that indulgently enjoys hustling this rig on back roads which will easily surpass posted limits. With upgraded brakes (Hawk LTS are GREAT), it holds up and does the business.

People move out of the way when a large SUV on 35/37s fills their rear view. With my Porsche, not so much, but they're dispatched regardless.

 

[DRCocaCola]

I'm the odd owner that indulgently enjoys hustling this rig on back roads which will easily surpass posted limits. With upgraded brakes (Hawk LTS are GREAT), it holds up and does the business.

People move out of the way when a large SUV on 35/37s fills their rear view.

I’m not sure how odd it is, you’re definitely not alone. Having owned a wide variety of very capable sports cars over the years I am surprised how capable and flat my LX corners on mountain roads due to the AHC.

 

[KilaCruiser]

Did you try to use ECT power?

To be honest a Land Cruiser 200 can be driven more spirited but is not really the vehicle to throw around given its weight and height. Hardly a criteria to purchase one. I do like KDSS allowing decent cornering without feeling uncomfortable. I am sure AHC 200’s achieves the same. It is just a great if not the greatest all rounder.

Yea, I use ECT power if I want to pass someone aggressively... 9/10 times its a display of dominance over someone who isnt aware I'm racing them. Otherwise, I'm fine without it and dont leave it on.

Not advocating for driving a 200 like a porsche, just agreeing with an earlier comment that the 6 speed felt a touch faster.

Will 100% agree there's nothing that does it all, better, for my taste... and good suspension really let's you get as creative as you want, at 70 mph, on a mtn road, with a heavy load and stuff on the roof - cant ask for more than that!