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Will suck balls when you have to take it apart
Will suck balls when you have to take it apart
Welding Front Drive Flanges (2 Viewers)
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- #22
I guess I shouldve also mentioned that this is temporary. I will be rebuilding the knuckles as well as upgrading to RCVs this summer. I don’t wheel it as much as I used to just due to living back down in the city and I am busy with work as well. I do appreciate your concern but rest assured if most goes according to plan, the front end should be redone by June
Had he mentioned the birf splines were also toast and that he is redoing everything in June, there may have been a different response. Out the gate, it was simply "my flanges stripped so I welded them to my birfs"
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- #24
Yeah hopefully it wont be too bad. Just a cutoff after the welds should free everything up!
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- #25
Absolutely relies on the weld but so far so good its gone about 4 hours of wheeling it harder than I have ever done before. Im keeping my fingers crossed and I hope you can do the same haha!
Hah, agreed.
Maybe in the future, start off with all the info
Personally, I'm curious what @OGBeno would say
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- #27
Ill edit the post nowHah, agreed.
Maybe in the future, start off with all the info
I guess I took that as an assumed fact before he mentioned it... I figured if the flanges were shot enough to need the fix, then the axles were almost definitely shot as well. The moment when the money could have been saved was some time before the front axle stopped transferring power! Then again, I look at broken s*** for a living, I'm used to thinking about what else would have broken.
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Yeah I daily drove it for a few months with no wheeling and didn’t find out that it was shot til I was going up muddy slope on a trail
These things happen... I'd be a liar if I said I'd never missed something like that.
Nice, push the the truck until the birf grenades on the trail. That usually means the tire won’t rotate and the wheel won’t turn.
ruin the days fun for everyone.
Give the kid a break. He's 21 years old. I have socks older than that. We all had to learn at some point.
Cruiserdrew
On the way there
We welded a rear flange to the hub one time to get off the Dusy trail, so this "fix" seems ok as a very temporary expedient to continue to move forward. As a means to go wheeling, it's not smart for all the reasons mentioned. A broken birfield off the road, would immobilize this truck with no possibility of repair. So until you have new parts and fix the truck, I'd say very gentle street driving only. In any given wheeling group, there's always one guy that shows up with a truck already broken and a liability for everyone. Don't be that guy.
Welding cast iron to steel is never a good idea, Below is a quote from a welding site listing the problem of welding a cast iron flange to a steel axle shaft,
Quote "The main problem with welding cast iron comes from its high carbon content. During the welding process, this carbon migrates into the weld metal and/or the heat-affected zone adjacent to the weld metal, making it hard & brittle. This is how Cast Iron gets its reputation for post-weld cracking." end quote
Quote "The main problem with welding cast iron comes from its high carbon content. During the welding process, this carbon migrates into the weld metal and/or the heat-affected zone adjacent to the weld metal, making it hard & brittle. This is how Cast Iron gets its reputation for post-weld cracking." end quote
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- #36
It was a last dich effort to be available to do a trail one night. This isnt a fix to continue hard wheeling every weekend or anything of that sort. I don’t crawl, its mostly just mud trails or snow wheeling with some occasional crawling. I understand the risk Im taking but I also know what I am doing. I built this truck with my own 2 hands and feel confident in what I do.
-J
When I first saw it, I was like WTF?!?!?!
However, after understanding that both the birf and the flange were stripped, it's a fix. Yes, you'll need a cutoff wheel to cut off the end of the axle to get it all apart.
I don't recommend driving much on pavement in that condition, although make sure your VC is not locked. What it doesn't allow is floating movement for the birfield, so it's forcing the slipping action to take place inside your differential. You may tend to bind a bit more in the actual birf, so higher risk of shattering a birf if you're steering a lot when doing it.
It's not the end of the world, but it's a good "field fix" to get you by until other parts are available.
You're obviously pushing it pretty hard anyway if you stripped the drive flanges and birf to that point.
Eyedaho
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I'm just wondering where you cut down the fake Christmas tree. 
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- #39
Yeah absolutely! I’m apart of the Norcal Bay Area Land Cruiser group and we have a pretty solid groupchat going and I consulted with them prior to making a decision on it.
I made it an effort to test what this truck is capable of. I don’t know too many people who drive their 80 as hard as I do or that don’t necessarily worry about breaking things as much as I have. I love just going as hard as I can when permitted and it has been so so so surprising how capable this platform really is! 5th owner at 343k miles in a 1993 by the way
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Old lady around the corner had 5 or 6 she posted on FB for free so I went and got one for me and my brother hahaI'm just wondering where you cut down the fake Christmas tree.
