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I looked at the hoses and fittings they are pretty generic brass fittings except for the tap fitting. This builds a little doubt for me anyway as to what exactly they mean by "leaking" a hose is a hose is a hose and so is a brass fitting and a compression fitting. Plumbing doesn't just leak if installed correctly. If the leak is at the solenoid that's a different story. Maybe a little more detail on what is leaking will help clarify. Shop here in Houston has installed several of these no problem, that's where I'm taking mine. Maybe the problem is they are used to installing ARB not TJM. These weren't around for a week. They been around in 100s for several years.

I wish I could have you talk with them. I hope it's not going to run up the bill to much.
 
Switches- try these guys-
OTRATTW
very helpful and they answer the phone!

Air leaks: its pretty simple, either leaking at the diff or the compressor. Soapy water will indicate where(but they prob know that) The through diff fitting has two tiny o rings that go over the brass fill tube as it sits inside the fitting, if they missed those, it will leak. If they didn't make a straight knife or razor cut on the plastic tubing, the press fitting may leak. The rubber hose needs hose clamps on either end- kit didn't come with them.

Keep us posted- good luck
 
From what I understand it's the fitting that is leaking but I'll have to confirm this.

It's easy to replace all three switches - what I was wanting is to replace the one that is mismatched.
 
From what I understand it's the fitting that is leaking but I'll have to confirm this.

It's easy to replace all three switches - what I was wanting is to replace the one that is mismatched.


I seriously doubt the fitting is leaking, its a compression fitting!! solid brass. Sounds like they didn't cut the hose straight if they cut at an angle of course its going to leak.
 
I seriously doubt the fitting is leaking, its a compression fitting!! solid brass. Sounds like they didn't cut the hose straight if they cut at an angle of course its going to leak.

Sheesh. I hope it's not something that easy. They went out of their way to pick up new parts/hoses. I'll keep you guys posted.
 
@shanester would you mind telling me what shop you used and would you recommend them? Looking for a reputable shop in So Cal to have lockers f/r also. Thanks

Yeah but let me get this situation all sorted out. I don't make recommendations unless I'm 100% sure about them so give me a few days.

I just got off the phone with the shop. The install is done but they said the lockers don't activate until 20-30 feet is driven, so I need to "give myself room when I'm on the trail." They also said it could be because they tested them on dry pavement and that the ARB's activate immediately. I told them I haven't read anything about that sort of thing and they told me to try it on the trail, it might activate quicker.

Wanted to run this by you guys and ask if your TJM lockers take that long?
 
IDK- I think it should be pretty quick- not 20-30 feet. You could still have an air pressure issue, plumbing-fittings- (like not enough presssure or volume). Before they buttoned it up did the test and check for engagement disengagement, make sure nothing was getting hung up, check the solendoid is releasing air after you shut it off? Btw, what is your compressor set up?

I suggest you or your installer send an email to TJM in Australia- they are very responsive. Or get in skype and call tomorrow night. Let them know the install didn't go smoothly. Provide accurate details about the install and the specific problems the installer had , and the specific remedy they used- exactly whichn fittings, or different air line what size etc. ( more detail than you have posted here) send it tomorrow and they should have answered by the time you wake up Monday morning. I think the time difference is about +13 hrs from Cali.

Hang in you're almost there-
 
Yeah but let me get this situation all sorted out. I don't make recommendations unless I'm 100% sure about them so give me a few days.

I just got off the phone with the shop. The install is done but they said the lockers don't activate until 20-30 feet is driven, so I need to "give myself room when I'm on the trail." They also said it could be because they tested them on dry pavement and that the ARB's activate immediately. I told them I haven't read anything about that sort of thing and they told me to try it on the trail, it might activate quicker.

Wanted to run this by you guys and ask if your TJM lockers take that long?


This makes absolutely nonsense. It should activate immediately. Do you have a manifold installed after the compressor?
 
This makes absolutely nonsense. It should activate immediately. Do you have a manifold installed after the compressor?
Having used my front TJM locker a lot recently, I can tell you that it can engage a little different at times depending on if the wheel is perfectly straight or not (which I am sure happens with most of these type of lockers), if there is no load and if the gears/teeth are aligned. However mine usually:
1. engage instantly
2. take maybe one rotation of the wheel
3. Take 3-5 feet to engage after I straighten the wheel
 
I'm so upset right now. I get the call the my truck is done so I go to pick the truck up. The bill was almost double what I was quoted. I drove off and instantly noticed that the rear locker was engaged WITH OUT the compressor even on (pressure in the line). I drive back and the shop owner realeased the pressure in the line. He then tells me he doesn't know why the pressure isn't being released and it could be an issue with the solenoid. He starts explaining that there were a ton of fitment issues and that they had a horrible time with the rear actuator. He said they fixed it but he didn't seem really confident about what they did.

He then starts turning on the compressor and the switches to test them and then turns everything off. I take off a second time just wanting to go home and get no further than 30 feet when I felt the steering wheel pulling away from me. The front locker IS LOCKED with OUT the compressor on (it must have happened when he was messing with the switches).

He runs outside and pulls the air line from the front solenoid. Wtf is going on?

I don't know where to start here. I'm sitting at home with front and rear lockers that don't work.

Here is what I've learned on my own.

1. The compressor turns on just fine. When turn on the rear locker, it does not lock. Also, the compressor STAYS ON. When I turn on the front locker, the compressor takes about 10 seconds and pressurizes, then finally turns off. The front locker DOES turn on. Here's the problem, it DOES NOT disengage when turned off! It sounds like air is released from the solenoid but there is still air in the line. The only way to get the front to disengage is to pull the air line from the solenoid.

I'm using the TJM pro locker compressor by the way. It came with zero instructions and only a wiring diagram.

I'm really bummed at this point to be dealing with this. I'm out of funds to throw at the problem too. Please help me figure this out if you can and thanks in advanced!
 
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Sorry your going through this, it sounds like a wiring problem. the same solenoid that opens the line of air also releases the air. That's why they have a breather on the solenoid for the air to release.

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Either wired incorrectly or plumbed incorrectly. make sure the inlet on the solenoid is installed correctly and not backwards where outlet is on the inlet side.
 
I'm looking at the solenoid now... there is a manual push relief valve built in just FYI. Kinda like a push button on a watch, just so you don't have to keep unplugging the hose. the easiest thing to try is to flip the solenoid, it may be backwards, the instructions don't spell out what direction it should go but it's worth a shot it's easy to unscrew and try that.

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Either wired incorrectly or plumbed incorrectly. make sure the inlet on the solenoid is installed correctly and not backwards where outlet is on the inlet side.

Oh boy - I didn't know one side of the compressor was an inlet and the other an outlet...

There were no instruction manuals with the thing. Man I hope it was my mistake.
 
My guess is the manual relief valve should face the air out to the locker side
 

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