OK, sounds like we are up to eight and might need to include toes after you count me, Mark (MMW68), and folks that we might not know of. Still significantly less than the number of Chevy installations.
Upgrades for a 2f engine.
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Well whoopi!! Every install is unique. I had quite a unique 2F myself but it's still not half the engine the Chevy is. Whatever blows your skirt up. Or blows your engine up...
Funny, I have beaten V8's in the sand with my little 2F.
Everything has it's place. Trying to tell others that they are wrong for their motor choice just is silly.
BTW, about the turbo, they are an on demand type of thing. I get almost no boost in low range. So, essentially, it is on when I need it and off when I am crawling. I have had nothing but good things to say about the turbo. The 420 sucks as a fast shifting tranny tho.
Ones choice of engines is like the choice in underware. It's a personal thing. There is no right choice.
I did not mean to start a big argument by just saying that is real expensive to try and get power out of a 2F I was just trying to save him a little headache
And mace as far as a turbo they do not make boost at idle unless you have a variable vane turbo and even then you have a very small amount of boost. As the engine turns it spools the turbo and creates your boost at which point forces air and makes power. I just stated they have some lag and can be kind of eratic especially in a high boost application.
All motors do not make as much HP at the low end. boost is not eratic. it is very predictable. It may be explosive, but it is not erratic.
A 2F with a turbo works very well.
What do you consider "high"??
Wow, that is more than I had thought. I've tried to keep track though it looks like my efforts are worthless.
I did not say that motors make more power at low end, but by eratic boost I mean if you have enough to really spool the turbo fast the boost will come in as you say "explosive" and this can be bad if you maybe needed the boost or power actually before it exploded into effect and this can make for some trouble or maybe the boost came in late, I do have to say that in a automatic application you will not loose the boost during shift as in a straightdrive application. As far as what I think is a high boost that really does not matter bc the pulling tractors that I have been around start blowing head gaskets at 140-150# of boost, I have a dodge that has no problems with 60#, but every motor is different and has different boost applications and has there limits. I think most stock street cars run somwhere around 3-7# but I am not so sure bc those things really do not flip my trigger.
It is like everything else, know your motor and how it handles..
I drive a turbo FJ40 that gets to 12ish PSI as it stands. I am going to try to get it up to 20 psi and see how it does (propane).
You are comparing apples to oranges with those boost numbers. It is like comparing a alcohol dragster to a stock pickup truck.
How many years ago did people believe that 300 hp was useless off road? Turbos are a great thing. Power when you need it.
i LOVE this statement...
coming from a guy that is chev with some Toyota sheet metal... why not save your money and just run a figgin Blazer.
nothing unique here... move along, keep moving.
coming from a guy that is chev with some Toyota sheet metal... why not save your money and just run a figgin Blazer.
nothing unique here... move along, keep moving.
wiser words have never been said...
got a link to your build?
got a link to your build?
It is like everything else, know your motor and how it handles..
Mildly modified 2f here - de-smog - carb & induction mods - exhaust mods. DD & runs down the hiway @ 70 mph with no problems on 35s with 4.11 gears. Wheel it regularly & it does just fine. I do have a 60 with the a440f & fj62 t-case. I love it this way....
As to the great engine debate....to each his own...can't we all just get along.?
As to the great engine debate....to each his own...can't we all just get along.?
to each his own. I'll kick it old school for now. After I ripped all the smog crap off my 2F it feels like a new motor! I'm just getting to know the 2f and love every bit of it so far. Besides, feels good not having to worry about speeding tickets
didn't realize you boys were discussing merits of the V8 vs the 2F...
V8, gobs of useless power, devalues the vehicle it is installed in, parts are cheap since you will be needing plenty, plan on broken drivetrain parts.
2F, gobs of useful torque, retains the value of the vehicle is resides in, parts are cheap if you know where to shop, true truck engine.
both suck fuel
to each their own. if you want a chevy, then go buy a blazer or Suburban. want a Toyota then keep it Toyota.
V8, gobs of useless power, devalues the vehicle it is installed in, parts are cheap since you will be needing plenty, plan on broken drivetrain parts.
2F, gobs of useful torque, retains the value of the vehicle is resides in, parts are cheap if you know where to shop, true truck engine.
both suck fuel
to each their own. if you want a chevy, then go buy a blazer or Suburban. want a Toyota then keep it Toyota.
I just love those who vehemently defend the 2F as if it were some heaven-sent, all superior motor that a Chevy could never be. Did they forget where the blueprints for this old dog came from? The rest of the world moved forward with newer, more powerfull, more efficient engines, the 2F stayed frozen in time for decades. Reliable? Certainly. "Gobs of torque?" Compared to a four cylinder maybe. It's fuel consumption isn't great and can usually be exceeded with a well tuned V8 making twice the HP and torque. Look at the rotating and reciprocating mass. It has a reverse flow head. There are practical limits to what can be done to it while retaining some shred of reliability and simplicity. My 2F ran pretty well with a header, a Weber (tuned meticulously) and a recurved distributor. But on its best day it was no match for a 350. And no, I never broke a drivetrain component with either motor as the rest of the Land Cruiser is built like a tank; that's why I own it. It's the perfect size and it's well built. I just found a better way (in my opinion) to motivate it. FWIW, I had a "back in High School" moment last week when some guy in an FJ Cruiser thought he could take me up a long hill from a stop light. He looked rather sad in my rear-view mirror. What a Yuppie.
to each his own. I'll kick it old school for now. After I ripped all the smog **** off my 2F it feels like a new motor! I'm just getting to know the 2f and love every bit of it so far. Besides, feels good not having to worry about speeding tickets
That is a cool feeling. The more you remove the better they run.
The 2F does very well what it was designed to do, run forever. It has *enough* torque to get the job done, but it won't be done very fast. 210 lb/ft for a stock 60 2F just isn't enough for a 5000 lb modified vehicle with tires and whatnot.
That said, I'd rather have a diesel engine than a Vortec or whatever, but to each his own
That said, I'd rather have a diesel engine than a Vortec or whatever, but to each his own