Upgrades for a 2f engine.

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I have come to find that throwing a wad of money into a 2f engine you still have a good boat anchor I mean engine. I am not saying that the 2f is not a good engine but for the money, time, and effort that you will spend doing trying and modifying and getting mad everytime you do something it is just a lot easier to put in a 6.0 gm engine and turbo400 with a NP205 and never really have to worry about anything other than breaking axles. You send the complete wiring harness to jimsperformance and have him fix your harness for you and flash your computer and you are ready to go with about the same amount of money that you will spend on trying to make the 2f perform and get hp out of it plus you can use that motor in pretty much any application when you pull it out for your next ride.
 
I have come to find that throwing a wad of money into a 2f engine you still have a good boat anchor I mean engine. I am not saying that the 2f is not a good engine but for the money, time, and effort that you will spend doing trying and modifying and getting mad everytime you do something it is just a lot easier to put in a 6.0 gm engine and turbo400 with a NP205 and never really have to worry about anything other than breaking axles. You send the complete wiring harness to jimsperformance and have him fix your harness for you and flash your computer and you are ready to go with about the same amount of money that you will spend on trying to make the 2f perform and get hp out of it plus you can use that motor in pretty much any application when you pull it out for your next ride.
Yeah but anyone can put a bigger engine in, it takes some skills to take a 2F and turn it into a monster. Plus its MUCH cooler to have a straight 6 then a V8.
 
amen on the cool factor...
matt you did a beautiful job and i'm right there with you on the pureness of turning something like the 2F into such a well-tuned machine. anyone can swap in a V8 (now dont take that as an insult yall) but there is much to be said about the time, effort, thought and ingenuity that goes into taking what's been thrown on your plate and making the best of it. Keep up the unique.
 
My Engine

Here's the list of stuff I have done to my engine:

-Stock carb rebuilt
-Hi-perf vacuum advance distributor (have original)
-Crane XC Fireball ignition/optical pick up (replaced points in the Hi-perf distributor)
-SOR Tri-Y header
-DeSmog’d
-K&N air filter

I did this all over a long period of time, so performance improvements were incrimental - i.e. I can't say if it's stronger/any more powerful than original.

Gordo
 
Their is a 2F in here somewhere :D

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What sort of HP figures do you get and whats its like to drive Matt?
 
Yeah I enjoyed my 2f like I said but I had just throwed a lot of money into it and never saw a dramatic improvement so I just got tired of always being outdone and showed up so I just started puting a little back here and there and trading off things and come to find out it is a cheap way to go but to each their own. Granted matt does have a unique ride but I am curious as to how it does over time and how the lag in the turbo does. I dont know what wheeling is like over there but a turbo does not do that good around here unless it is mated to an automatic and spraying nitrous to get the lag out and still yet it is still not that impressive.
 
This thread was started a few years ago and still seems to come up occasionally.

And yes, Matt is a show off. 400hp? Dang dude, get her on that dyno! And make sure the video is running when she explodes. :grinpimp:
 
Thanks for the help guys. One more thing though would adding new performance camshafts wear out my engine faster?



if you want more power consider a turbo diesel from toyota. i put just a 3b in my 40 not turboed but get alot more torque and dont lose power in any hills. i am thinking about the 12ht for my 60. check into it. you also get alot better fuel economy,.
 
I think an old-school Clifford valve cover is good for an additional 1/10 of a horsepower...
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Granted matt does have a unique ride but I am curious as to how it does over time and how the lag in the turbo does. I dont know what wheeling is like over there but a turbo does not do that good around here unless it is mated to an automatic and spraying nitrous to get the lag out and still yet it is still not that impressive.

Lag is due to incorrect turbo selection, older style roller bearing turbos, to much pipe work and over sized intercoolers. If I have done my home work correctly and worked out the correct size turbo for my application lag should be at a minimum. I have the new GT3582R roller bearing turbo, minimum pipe work, and a hopefully a very efficient tiny intercooler.

I agree lag becomes a problem if you are trying to negotiate an obstacle and all of a sudden boost comes on hard and nasty that is not wanted at all. But my Wolf V500 ECU allows us to control and program the boost by electronically controlling the wastegate on top of what is hopefully the correct turbo and set up. So we can actually map the turbo to the engine.

Tuesday all been well will tell all as I sit the chewing my nails hoping not to satisfy Pappy's lust for watching it go bang :grinpimp:

As for the wheeling over here, here is a small selection.
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This thread was started a few years ago and still seems to come up occasionally.

And yes, Matt is a show off. 400hp? Dang dude, get her on that dyno! And make sure the video is running when she explodes. :grinpimp:

HA! That underscores the beauty of having a Chevy motor. Great power, cheap to build and parts are easy to find. I just got done with a drivetrain upgrade of my own. I now have a Chevy 350 (soon to acquire fuel injection) bolted to an NV4500 and an NP241 with a fixed yoke output. The rear driveline is a 1-ton Spicer CV out of a Ford and the front is 1/2 ton Spicer, also CV. The rear axle is a semi-floater 14-bolt with six-lug shafts and GM disk brakes. Parts are ridiculously inexpensive, easy to find and nearly bomb proof. And I can now remove my T-case as an assembly. What a concept!
 
HA! That underscores the beauty of having a Chevy motor. Great power, cheap to build and parts are easy to find. I just got done with a drivetrain upgrade of my own. I now have a Chevy 350 (soon to acquire fuel injection) bolted to an NV4500 ...

You and lots of other people. We choose to do something unique and different.
 
I modified 2F is more common then a small block Chevy? Werent the 350s in lots of cars...I believe they still make them too...sounds like a modified 2F is A LOT less common. The 350 is probably more common then a Stock 2F too...
 
I think this should do the trick...

Add at least 2 stickers to the windows of the wagon...

You'll get at least 20 more horses...
 
Is it more unique to leave it with the stock engine? I think statisticly, you're not that unique.

My engine is hardly stock. I'm not sure how many folks have successfully performed the 2F+3FE hybrid, but I bet you could count them with the fingers from two hands.
 
2F-E hybrids....

My engine is hardly stock. I'm not sure how many folks have successfully performed the 2F+3FE hybrid, but I bet you could count them with the fingers from two hands.

Well, there were 2 unofficially before I did mine. And there is one in Montana, and one in Wyoming (on its way to Washington). And there is an extreme build in Australia someplace.... matt.mcinnes...

That is 6 that I know of for sure. Pappy, did you do this 2F-E also? All I know is that I enjoy my engine now more than ever. It isn't heavily modified, but it will be reliable for years to come. A SBC swap did occur to me more than once though.
 
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