Toyo OpenCountry AT3 Experience? (1 Viewer)

[bencallaway]

I'll be sporten a set of black 275 60 R20's .

I'm on 285/60/20 which require spacers. You should be ok without spacers with a little plastic work.

I'm running 37psi

 

[WesSiler]

We're a couple thousand miles into the ATIIIs on the OE Long Travel 200, and couldn't be more happy with them. Grip in the wet and on both loose and packed snow has been faultless. Still switching to Blizzaks for winter, but these are a great shoulder season tire, and would work well for people who live someplace warm, but occasionally travel to some place snowy.

I'm swapping both our other trucks to ATIIIs in the spring. The K02s I have on the Ranger have gotten insanely noisy at just 15k miles.

 

[PDoyle]

I'm on 285/60/20 which require spacers. You should be ok without spacers with a little plastic work.

I'm running 37psi

Ok good to know. I'm replacing my front mud flaps with a longer set. I'm buying P-Metric.

 

[bencallaway]

Ok good to know. I'm replacing my front mud flaps with a longer set. I'm buying P-Metric.

Mine are custom

 

[PDoyle]

LOL! You don't see snow.

 

[bloc]

LOL! You don't see snow.

Zero snow here but my flaps are staying if at all possible. They do a good job of keeping mud off the side of the truck when off-roading, and therefore off me when camping.

 

[EPUro2019]

I just got the ATIII P285/70R17 with RW wheels installed this week. I ended up going P-metric mostly for comfort as my wife complains about bumpy rides and she is now daily driving it. So far they feel very smooth on the freeway, are great in the wet/rainy PNW and look great! I think the increased rubber and P-metric have definitely not worsened the ride and may have improved it? Too early for a full review, I'll post some pics when it isn't raining and there is better light, so in July.

 

[Romer]

Romer, do you have the LT rated tire?

I do

 

[PDoyle]

Zero snow here but my flaps are staying if at all possible. They do a good job of keeping mud off the side of the truck when off-roading, and therefore off me when camping.

When it snows salt is on the roads instantly. I just picked up a generic set (12"x24") of mudflaps. I'm going to fit in the front making them as long as possible to keep the stuff out from under most of the side steps. I might do the same with the rear but there seems to be a lot of plastic back there already.

 

[blueridgeJB]

I just got the ATIII P285/70R17 with RW wheels installed this week. I ended up going P-metric mostly for comfort as my wife complains about bumpy rides and she is now daily driving it. So far they feel very smooth on the freeway, are great in the wet/rainy PNW and look great! I think the increased rubber and P-metric have definitely not worsened the ride and may have improved it? Too early for a full review, I'll post some pics when it isn't raining and there is better light, so in July.

Hi - was just wondering if you had any updates on the ATIII's. I'm considering installing them on RW's, also in P285/70R17. No plans for substantial mods or towing right now. Main concern is general highway behavior and noise. We take long trips to get into CO and other areas for hiking/camping. So for the "AT" component of the tire, I am concerned with wet weather performance and traction on fire roads moreso than true off-roading. Not surprisingly, stock dunlops have been horrible in mud etc. LC is a 2020 with 15,000 miles. I really enjoy the solid stock feel and overall low cabin noise. I could deal with a slight ding in NVH, but anything even moderate probably not. How has the noise been since installed?

I'm drawn to the ATIIIs because they are all new and it sounds like tire tech has really improved, but wondering if something like a Defender is the better route.

 

[EPUro2019]

@blueridgeJB

So far I've been very pleased with the ATIII's on RW. We don't have any mods and aren't planning on anything major. On the freeway there is a noise but is slight. Definitely not intrusive. They handle well at speed, I really can't notice any difference from stock. I live in the PNW where from October to June it is wet about every day. I haven't had any issue so far with wet weather traction. I've been on some very mild trails w/o any issue. I haven't been in any major mud yet, these obviously aren't mud terrain tires but will be better than stock. I'm going skiing soon, that should give a better idea about snow. Overall they feel as good as stock from a comfort level. there is more noise but not significant. Overall so far I've been very happy. I cannot comment on other versions - C vs E rating but the P-rating has been good for us to date. Hopefully this helps!

 

[Autolykos]

@Romer having gone from the ATII to the ATIII can you speak specifically to any differences in noise levels or fuel economy? Which rig are you running them on?
Thanks!

Also, did anyone switch from KO2 to the ATIII?

Noise levels are so subjective and difficult to quantify (as are most tire characteristics i suppose) so i find direct comparisons to those two tires very helpful since i've found the KO2 to be too loud for me and the Toyo ATII to be much quieter and very acceptable. If i were smart i'd run Michelin LTX but i just have to look cool *eyeroll*

 

[Romer]

I dont notice any changes in noise or fuel economy. I run them on my 200. Its snowe3d here a couple of times and they have handled well in the ice and snow. Not enough to say better for sure, but have had no issues with them.

Very happy with them. I have only put a few thousand miles on them as I tend to drive the Z4 when the weather is nice or the 40 when feeling nostalgic

 

[phargoh]

Looking at ATIII for my 100 series and trying to determine SL vs C vs E. This thread has been helpful, but can't seem to get there in deciding which would be best. I use it mainly for utility on the weekends, hauling light loads, pulling a small camper on dirt roads, driving up the highway canyon in the winter to ski, and light offroading on slickrock twice a year. May use it for a multi state highway trip while pulling a camper once a year. Any thoughts? My lean was L/T C.

Edit: 275/65R18 specs
116T SL BSW 600 A B32.1"11"7.5-9.5"8"13.5/32" Standard Load /2756 lbs /max 44psi /118 mph/ 43 lbs

113/110T C BSW 32.1"11"8-9.5"8"16.4/32"C - 6 ply /2535/2335 lbs /max 50 psi/ 118 mph/ 51 lbs

123/120S E BSW 32.1"11"8-9.5"8"16.4/32"E - 10 ply /3415/3085 lbs /max 80 psi/ 112 mph/ 52 lbs

 

[WesSiler]

Looking at ATIII for my 100 series and trying to determine SL vs C vs E. This thread has been helpful, but can't seem to get there in deciding which would be best. I use it mainly for utility on the weekends, hauling light loads, pulling a small camper on dirt roads, driving up the highway canyon in the winter to ski, and light offroading on slickrock twice a year. May use it for a multi state highway trip while pulling a camper once a year. Any thoughts? My lean was L/T C.

C

 

[unclemat]

E.

Check the tire specs in question but usually there is hardly any weight penalty or it is small. No difference in air pressure hence marginal difference in "comfort".

Usually all you are "gaining" by going C or D is a weaker tire.

 

[TeCKis300]

C

It's a misnomer that E is necessarily more durable.

 

[Autolykos]

An update here. I ditched the KO2s that still had substantial life left but were way too damn noisy. I picked up the Toyo ATIII and so far am very happy with them. Noise is WAY less, granted they're brand new and the KO2s were half worn. However, my half worn Toyo ATII were way quieter than the KO2 and Toyo claims the III will be quieter than the II so i'm optimistic! My only concern is that only P tires were available in the size i want so i'm hoping the 114T is durable enough for my heavy-ass LR3 (6700 lbs without the family in it).

 

[bloc]

@phargoh look into whether toyo builds the SL with a different tread compound than the LT flavors. Sometimes this might mean differing amounts of silica or other things that may improve traction in rain or ice. Plus the SL will require less inflation pressure which will help ride quality.

E.

Check the tire specs in question but usually there is hardly any weight penalty or it is small. No difference in air pressure hence marginal difference in "comfort".

Usually all you are "gaining" by going C or D is a weaker tire.

Have any documentation to support those tires being “weaker”?

 

[unclemat]

Have any documentation to support those tires being “weaker”?

Manufacturer specs indicate different max tire pressure, and often somewhat different weight. I think it's logical to conclude the construction differs to withstand higher pressures and higher loads. Whether they are stronger in terms of puncture resistance it can be debated, but they should be, right?

Also:

So what’s the difference between tires of the same size but different load ranges?​

It’s no longer the number of plies. Most radial truck tires, for example, have a total of five plies. There’s one steel body ply and four belts under the tread. What is different today is the strength of the steel cables in those plies or the number of cables per inch. We’re now at the point where we no longer add more and more plies, but instead, adjust the strength of the entire casing to achieve the desired load capacity.

From: What is Ply Rating for tires? Here we explain it clearly - https://www.sttc.com/ply-rating/