Towing with a 200-series Toyota Land Cruiser (6 Viewers)

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I couldn’t think of a better thread to ask this because the answer would depend on the size of vehicle, the 200 being the biggest, and a presence of a travel trailer.

We’re headed on a big travel trailer trip this June. There’s refrigeration in the trailer and I have a Dometic 75L dual zone that even though it’s a bit big (note it’s paid for LOL), I’m thinking of also taking it with us.

Some thoughts on why:
  • We will be out and about for entire days, who knows maybe overnight without the trailer
  • Buying groceries might mean a 1-2 hour trip EACH WAY depending on where we are.
  • Depending if we’re not running or running the fridge it can store overflow provisions like cases of beer, hamburgers, hotdogs and maybe even hiking boots LOL.
  • I HATE messing with ice. I mean Jack Nicholson hate messing with ice.
So, how many of you that tow a trailer that has a refrigerator-freezer ALSO carry a powered refrigerator freezer like a Dometic in the rear cargo bay of your LC/LX?
I have an Iceco 75L dual zone fridge freezer that never leaves the LX even when we have the trailer. I honestly trust it more than the fridge in the trailer, it is larger and we always have food on trails or where ever we are doing. Plus between the two we can pack for a week.
 
What an epic 3k mile road trip through Death Valley, Valley of Fire, Zion, and North Rim Grand Canyon.

The 37s have won me over. Gas mileage has suffered a bit more. But she still hauls the mail and does the business. Tires earn their keep for the added comfort and capability offroad.

Hung out with some Tesla's, they were amused.
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Do the 37s rub? AHC delete?
 
I couldn’t think of a better thread to ask this because the answer would depend on the size of vehicle, the 200 being the biggest, and a presence of a travel trailer.

We’re headed on a big travel trailer trip this June. There’s refrigeration in the trailer and I have a Dometic 75L dual zone that even though it’s a bit big (note it’s paid for LOL), I’m thinking of also taking it with us.

Some thoughts on why:
  • We will be out and about for entire days, who knows maybe overnight without the trailer
  • Buying groceries might mean a 1-2 hour trip EACH WAY depending on where we are.
  • Depending if we’re not running or running the fridge it can store overflow provisions like cases of beer, hamburgers, hotdogs and maybe even hiking boots LOL.
  • I HATE messing with ice. I mean Jack Nicholson hate messing with ice.
So, how many of you that tow a trailer that has a refrigerator-freezer ALSO carry a powered refrigerator freezer like a Dometic in the rear cargo bay of your LC/LX?
I have both. Even before having the fridge we used to keep drinks and lunch for the day in the truck cooler. It’s also helpful for overflow when you realize you can’t fit everything for 2 weeks in the camper fridge, or when you want to buy something in town but it’s an hour or more back to camp
 
Do the 37s rub? AHC delete?

No rub with all the sweet travel. No way I'd delete AHC as it's a big enabler to all the modding and ways I use the rig. I would sell the vehicle if AHC wasn't there.

Check my sig for mods and fitment writeups. If you're using a mobile device, turn it to landscape and you'll see the signatures.
 
I have both. Even before having the fridge we used to keep drinks and lunch for the day in the truck cooler. It’s also helpful for overflow when you realize you can’t fit everything for 2 weeks in the camper fridge, or when you want to buy something in town but it’s an hour or more back to camp
Thanks for this as it was exactly what we were thinking. So we'll definitely take the Dometic 75 Liter.

We expect to be gone 10 weeks and some areas will be dispersed.

It's the longest we will be camping and the longest we've been away from home EVER. So it's great to hear from those with more experience!!!
 
No rub with all the sweet travel. No way I'd delete AHC as it's a big enabler to all the modding and ways I use the rig. I would sell the vehicle if AHC wasn't there.

Check my sig for mods and fitment writeups. If you're using a mobile device, turn it to landscape and you'll see the signatures.
So my 33s rub a bit. I also have after market wheels, Icons.

Is there a write up somewhere where I can adjust the front up maybe an inch on neutral?
 
So my 33s rub a bit. I also have after market wheels, Icons.

Is there a write up somewhere where I can adjust the front up maybe an inch on neutral?
Yes, I believe it's under the thread "fitting full fat 35's" where @TeCKis300 details the process for this.
 
So my 33s rub a bit. I also have after market wheels, Icons.

Is there a write up somewhere where I can adjust the front up maybe an inch on neutral?

Most AHC related writeups can be found in the links in my sig.

If you're asking about sensor lift and/or height offset tool, here's a larger thread on the topic. Though I'd encourage you to sort out the rub independent of lift if you're going to wheel it.

 
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My wife, son and I were sking in February and my wife got hit by another skier and tore her ACL. She then got surgery April 1st and was in pretty rough shape for a while, so this is our first trip of the year with the trailer.

I bought a new Redarc tow pro elite since my other one had been finicky and this one seems to be 100% better. It has no issues when I plug the trailer in and seems to already be calibrated even though I had not towed before. It is still a bit aggressive coming to a stop though. I have to release the brake pedal starting from about 10 mph because the trailer brakes seem to ramp up below that speed and kind jerk to a stop.
 
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My wife, son and I were sking in February and my wife got hit by another skier and tore her ACL. She then got surgery April 1st and was in pretty rough shape for a while, so this is our first trip of the year with the trailer.

I bought a new Redarc tow pro elite since my other one had been finicky and this one seems to be 100% better. It has no issues when I plug the trailer in and seems to already be calibrated even though I had not towed before. It is still a bit aggressive coming to a stop though. I have to release the brake pedal starting from about 10 mph because the trailer brakes seem to ramp up below that speed and kind jerk to a stop.
And this seems better than the last one? How bad was the last one? I don’t want to come across as a total jerk but that isn’t the way your brakes are supposed to work at all. They should be functioning almost undetectable from no trailer. I have never set up a Redarc but hopefully someone can help with this.
 
And this seems better than the last one? How bad was the last one? I don’t want to come across as a total jerk but that isn’t the way your brakes are supposed to work at all. They should be functioning almost undetectable from no trailer. I have never set up a Redarc but hopefully someone can help with this.
My redarc stops fine and undetectably. It’s during stop and go when I get down to around 2 mph, riding the brake a bit that it starts to get very grabby. I’ve adjusted my driving style but it still sometimes happens and is annoying. My old tekonsha did not do this.
 
And this seems better than the last one? How bad was the last one? I don’t want to come across as a total jerk but that isn’t the way your brakes are supposed to work at all. They should be functioning almost undetectable from no trailer. I have never set up a Redarc but hopefully someone can help with this.
It works great 99.9% of the time, except when rolling up to a stop at very low speeds, which I might do 3 times on a 5 hour trip. It’s fine I just adjust how I release the brake pedal slightly.

I’ve got 35000 miles towing this trailer on various tow vehicles, I’m not concerned, it’s just an annoyance. It’s worth it for the integration of the knob into the blank switch on the dash
 
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My wife, son and I were sking in February and my wife got hit by another skier and tore her ACL. She then got surgery April 1st and was in pretty rough shape for a while, so this is our first trip of the year with the trailer.

I bought a new Redarc tow pro elite since my other one had been finicky and this one seems to be 100% better. It has no issues when I plug the trailer in and seems to already be calibrated even though I had not towed before. It is still a bit aggressive coming to a stop though. I have to release the brake pedal starting from about 10 mph because the trailer brakes seem to ramp up below that speed and kind jerk to a stop.
Nice looking rig. I’ll ask the obvious - where do you have the Redarc set? Maybe dial it back a click or two?
 
My Redarc tow controller can get a little grabby in stop and go traffic but a little adjustment in braking is usually all it takes. Worst case, I dial it back 2 clicks, I prefer to have a little bias towards the trailer brakes anyway.
 
My Redarc tow controller can get a little grabby in stop and go traffic but a little adjustment in braking is usually all it takes. Worst case, I dial it back 2 clicks, I prefer to have a little bias towards the trailer brakes anyway.
I run mine around 6-7 on the highway and 5-6 in the city. I find my brakes get grabbier once hot. Also I recommend downshifting manually - the voltage to the brake controller is based on brake boost and seems to ramp up until like 2-3k rpms so revving the engine will increase braking force at low speed which allows you to brake more consistently. Otherwise the brake controller is weak when braking and the engine being almost idle, but will suddenly brake hard as the transmission downshifts and the engine revs a bit, if that makes sense
 
I run mine around 6-7 on the highway and 5-6 in the city. I find my brakes get grabbier once hot. Also I recommend downshifting manually - the voltage to the brake controller is based on brake boost and seems to ramp up until like 2-3k rpms so revving the engine will increase braking force at low speed which allows you to brake more consistently. Otherwise the brake controller is weak when braking and the engine being almost idle, but will suddenly brake hard as the transmission downshifts and the engine revs a bit, if that makes sense
Interesting I never knew controller output was a function of engine RPM. The LC/LX brake controller algorithm seems like magic, none of it is precisely documented AFAIK.

I have a Tow Pro Elite and I leave it at 3.5-4 all the time. I am a frequent user of downshifting as I learned the hard way on a trip back & forth from MD to upstate NY.

I've read a lot of reports on the Tow Pro's behavior and I'm beginning to conclude that the braking experience is as much a function of your trailer's brake design and number of wheels as anything else. For example I have 4 wheels and 4 brakes on a 5500lb trailer. Other trailers of similar weight have 2 wheels and 2 brakes.
 
Interesting I never knew controller output was a function of engine RPM. The LC/LX brake controller algorithm seems like magic, none of it is precisely documented AFAIK.

I have a Tow Pro Elite and I leave it at 3.5-4 all the time. I am a frequent user of downshifting as I learned the hard way on a trip back & forth from MD to upstate NY.

I've read a lot of reports on the Tow Pro's behavior and I'm beginning to conclude that the braking experience is as much a function of your trailer's brake design and number of wheels as anything else. For example I have 4 wheels and 4 brakes on a 5500lb trailer. Other trailers of similar weight have 2 wheels and 2 brakes.
You may have misunderstood my post. The Redarc doesn’t care about RPM’s. It has 2 modes and one is based on inertia. It’s the proportional control and, for some reason, tends to be more aggressive at very low speeds found in stop and go traffic. When you first install the controller it begins its calibration and this allows the controller to learn its orientation and based on braking force will apply what it thinks is best braking needed based on your speed and brake force with the dial setting being a force multiplier.

Cold brake shoe temps on your trailer will require more brake force but once they have built up heat they will be much better at braking. Therefore, this dial is never a set it and forget it setting regardless of what mode your using.

The other settings called user controlled mode and it applies the same amount of brake regardless of speed and is dependent upon she dial setting. I use this one when I’m off road towing.
 
You may have misunderstood my post. The Redarc doesn’t care about RPM’s. It has 2 modes and one is based on inertia. It’s the proportional control and, for some reason, tends to be more aggressive at very low speeds found in stop and go traffic. When you first install the controller it begins its calibration and this allows the controller to learn its orientation and based on braking force will apply what it thinks is best braking needed based on your speed and brake force with the dial setting being a force multiplier.

Cold brake shoe temps on your trailer will require more brake force but once they have built up heat they will be much better at braking. Therefore, this dial is never a set it and forget it setting regardless of what mode your using.

The other settings called user controlled mode and it applies the same amount of brake regardless of speed and is dependent upon she dial setting. I use this one when I’m off road towing.
Yes I think I did misunderstand. I'm familiar with the modes but never initiated manual mode. There was a case where we had sway and we probably should have used manual but didn't.
 
Yes I think I did misunderstand. I'm familiar with the modes but never initiated manual mode. There was a case where we had sway and we probably should have used manual but didn't.
I think you still misunderstand…

Changing modes requires being stopped. However, you can press the dial in to activate the trailer brakes, I believe this is what you’re referring to when mentioning the sway.

Sway sucks. Many say to throttle out, others say to press the dial and activate the trailer only brakes. I’m in the camp of weighing my tongue before leaving to make sure I have enough weight up front and avoid sway as best I can.
 
I think you still misunderstand…

Changing modes requires being stopped. However, you can press the dial in to activate the trailer brakes, I believe this is what you’re referring to when mentioning the sway.

Sway sucks. Many say to throttle out, others say to press the dial and activate the trailer only brakes. I’m in the camp of weighing my tongue before leaving to make sure I have enough weight up front and avoid sway as best I can.
No actually I get it with the modes. My reply was poorly written. You can get into manual mode which shows as green, and stay there. Then there's the mode where you're allowing the controller to take over ( blue). Switching requires stopping as you describe. What i was referring to was where we were running in regular blue mode and were overtaken by a large truck which caused us to sway rather severely. It is then that we could have applied the trailer brakes manually by pressing the button. That's not switching modes, per se, rather a temporary manual override.

I've only ever switched modes back and forth for practice in a parking lot when I just got it installed.
 

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