Thinking about selling the 80 and stealing the wife's 2015 4Rnr

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Phares

Phares

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I've been toying with the idea of selling the 80 to take over the wife's 2015 4RNR Trail. The sale money would pay it off and get me started on some mods. We would buy her a van or really whatever she wanted.

Pros:
AC actually works
Modern Amenities
I'd be the only owner forever and can pass it to the kids in another 12 years

Cons:
I can't work on it
I love my 80
Not nearly as "cool" as the 80.

Thoughts?
 
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Dont do it. Sell the 4 runner and put the money in to the 80.

The 80 is the epitome of Toyota factory design when it comes to a 4x4
 
We leased a 2015 4rnr limited for my wife and sold it to Carmax about a year ago when the lease was up. She now drives a 2017 RX350.

I'm a huge fan of the 4rnr looks, interior space, amenities (compared to my 2006 Duramax) and close to zero maintenance outside of oil changes. My only beef was that it always seemed to hunt for the right gear and the engine felt as if it lacked any real power unless you gave it hell (which actually made it move decently).

As a daily driver, it's likely leaps beyond that of an 80 for comfort and drive-ability.

We would've got a new 4rnr if they would offer another engine/trans package or at least refreshed something (looks, interior, anything).

In short, I'd choose the 4rnr over the 80 as a daily.
 
Sell the ‘runner and get a 70 series .... just sayin:)

In all seriousness, if your use of the rig is such that a 4rnr will cover your needs, I think you have your answer.
 
Our 15 Trail used to be my daily, then my wife took it over about a year ago as her daily when I bought the 100. It really is a good little truck. Ours has KDSS, which I really like. I like the fact that the V6 and tranny hasn't changed much since 2009, 2003 for the tranny. They also had the engine as an option in the 70 series so it cant be all bad. The figured out most of the issues and parts will be available for a very long time. I like the fact that its still manufactured in Japan. The softex seats while, not real leather, have held up better than any leather Ive ever owned.

Our plan is to pay off the 4runner, sell it and the 100, put that money toward a 200 for me, and get her a Subaru Outback. The only reason I want the 200 is for the towing ability. If the 4runner could tow a bit more, I would not look to get rid of it.
 
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S4Cruiser said:
We leased a 2015 4rnr limited for my wife and sold it to Carmax about a year ago when the lease was up. She now drives a 2017 RX350.

I'm a huge fan of the 4rnr looks, interior space, amenities (compared to my 2006 Duramax) and close to zero maintenance outside of oil changes. My only beef was that it always seemed to hunt for the right gear and the engine felt as if it lacked any real power unless you gave it hell (which actually made it move decently).

As a daily driver, it's likely leaps beyond that of an 80 for comfort and drive-ability.

We would've got a new 4rnr if they would offer another engine/trans package or at least refreshed something (looks, interior, anything).

In short, I'd choose the 4rnr over the 80 as a daily.
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How did you sell a leased vehicle? Did you buy it out?
 
Ghostrider I said:
How did you sell a leased vehicle? Did you buy it out?
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Pretty simple actually. At any point during a lease you can get a payoff quote. We went to carmax, they provided an offer, we accepted, they payoff the lease holder and then we got a check for the difference. Netted close to 8k. You can hack the hell out of leases if you play the game right. See here --> Archives. For instance, we pay ~415/month for the wife's rx350 that stickered for ~56k and only paid taxes and first month when taking possession (no money down).
 
@Phares Other than gas, tag/insurance/maintenance and upgrade stuff, what costs do you have on the 80 series? Can you keep it just as play vehicle, where you can work on it and drive it when you want to, not because you have to? If you have space, and its not costing you a bunch, keep it. Youve got quite a bit invested into it currently (based upon your build thread), and I'd hate to see you regret selling it.
 
I would no longer sell any 80 when you can easily swap in a LS and better AC. 4Runners are everywhere now. 80's are classics and the pinnacle of Toyota 4wd (coming from hardcore 100 person).
 
If you clean the interior, add sound deadening, install tint, install seat covers, and fix the AC, you would have an awesome DD. The AC can be fixed for as little as $150. Leather, tint, and sound deadening would be around $600. Those upgrades are a lot cheaper than a new car payment.
 
lumbee1 said:
If you clean the interior, add sound deadening, install tint, install seat covers, and fix the AC, you would have an awesome DD. The AC can be fixed for as little as $150. Leather, tint, and sound deadening would be around $600. Those upgrades are a lot cheaper than a new car payment.
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Plus you keep an 80 series in the driveway
 
Heresy Alert!

Look away if you are easily triggered.

'15 4RNR will out wheel an 80.
Go faster on the highway.
Get better mileage.
Isn't old and tired.
 
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Gingervitus obviously rots the brain also :flipoff2:
 
RedHeadedStepChild said:
Heresy Alert!

Look away if you are easily triggered.

'15 4RNR will out wheel an 80.
Go faster on the highway.
Get better mileage.
Isn't old and tired.
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You got to also look at "exit value" or the value of your vehicle at some future point and put that into the equation.


2015 SR5 w/ 120K Miles, KBB Private Party Value of $20K Stock, 18 MPG

1997 LX450 w/ 120K miles, excellent condition, 4" Slee Lift, 35" tires, rebuilt axles, aftermarket blue-tooth stereo, harrop lockers: $17K, 13 MPG
  • LX will out-wheel 4Runner
  • LX will go fast enough - 75+ with no issues and just as comfortable to drive on the road, even with 4" of lift
  • 5 MPG difference
  • Isn't old and tired
  • 10K/year mileage = $500 more per year for gas on the LX: Break even cost = 6 years
  • After 6 years and 60K miles, LX present value = $17, 4Runner = $11K
    • 6% YOY appreciate of LX minus depreciation for mileage = a wash
    • $1.5K/year depreciation on 4Runner
 
I have consulted with each and every soul for which I have a freckle and all those except the ludites agree with me.

The 80/450 has a SFA, which preferable for the trail, but that's where it ends.

4RNR is narrower and has a more advantageous wheel base and can find lines that an 80/450 is simply too far for. Has a rear locker for those who don't believe in traction control. Has traction control for those who realize 4 left feet controlling the brakes will always do a better job than 1.

That is all. We have said our piece. I will let the souls rest.
 
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