Yep, same same. Jhhilux and All States is the same guy. https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=525057137597598&ref=content_filter
The 2H/12H-T/1HZ/1HD-T/1HD-FT Gturbo Alternative Tech Thread (2 Viewers)
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Ahhh think we are saying the same thing in a differnt way.
Its hard to spool the turbo without enough fuel.
A correctly sized turbo doesn't need excess fuel to spool. But when you run a lot of boost the fuelling differences between on boost and off means you can have a issue with smoke off-boost.
Yes but a compensator has no effect on how much fueling you can get from a pump. If you can't spool up a turbo with the amount of fueling a non compensated pump can provide then putting on a compensator isn't going to change this.
mudgudgeon
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Yeah, but no.
Boost compensator is there to reduce fuel delivery when off boost.
Maximum feeling should be similar, but would be smokey at low boost
I think what Earwigg is saying is that the fueling might be turned down a bit from what it could be, just to reduce off boost smoke.
So using the compensator would mean that the fuel could then be turned up, building the top end boost?
So using the compensator would mean that the fuel could then be turned up, building the top end boost?
Ripper spot by the little Yarra and I’m thinking about bigger turbos and more fuel...
FJBen
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Any other feedback on munro turbos?
He says he makes an in house brand, GMT (greg munro turbos) has a waiting list. The one for the 13BT he said he uses a 1HDT CT26 core and builds from there.
He says he makes an in house brand, GMT (greg munro turbos) has a waiting list. The one for the 13BT he said he uses a 1HDT CT26 core and builds from there.
The 1HD-T CT26 core is an extremely average turbo to build from.
The hdt CT26 is very very similar to all the other CT26 variants, all that really differs is the exhaust housing a/r and the comp wheel inducer size. The CT26 is an excellent base for a upgraded turbo build using modern internal components, it allows the use of much bigger shafts and bearings than other turbos like the TD05 etc. The factory turbine inducer and exducer size is also a prefect match for our big 4.2L engines but the blade design/ profile is a bit old school but these get replace with modern tech so a mute point. Also explains why so many of the great turbo companies also use CT26
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FJBen
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This is the full context or the conversation
The 13bt ct26 use a large 12ht turbine housing which is too large for a 4 cylinder diesel engine. I fit a small A/R turbine housing along with an upgraded billet comp wheel and other tricks which dramatically improve responce and less laggy. Although the heat sheild needs to be redrilled to mount back on.
20 psi is ok with the upgrade billet compressor wheel although if you want to go over 25psi it will need a larger high flow compressor wheel.
Although unless the engine and fuel system is built for it that will be risky.
Nz Nath
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So he keeps the toyota turbine wheel? I thought both wheels were inefficient.
His turbo has to be an improvement over the stock ct26. Just whether it's enough of an improvement to justify the money when you've already got a healthy stock turbo. You may have read some pages back that I had a ct20b built with my old comp housing for my 13bt, so basically 100% bolt on. It was an improvement over the ct26, but if I'd pulled off a healthy ct26 I probably would have been a little disappointed. I was running 3.54:1 land rover diffs though, so with better gearing it may have done the job.
What about hitting up Gerg? Does he still sell kits for the 3b? Perhaps he could provide a suitable td04 and the bits required to make it easy to fit?
His turbo has to be an improvement over the stock ct26. Just whether it's enough of an improvement to justify the money when you've already got a healthy stock turbo. You may have read some pages back that I had a ct20b built with my old comp housing for my 13bt, so basically 100% bolt on. It was an improvement over the ct26, but if I'd pulled off a healthy ct26 I probably would have been a little disappointed. I was running 3.54:1 land rover diffs though, so with better gearing it may have done the job.
What about hitting up Gerg? Does he still sell kits for the 3b? Perhaps he could provide a suitable td04 and the bits required to make it easy to fit?
FJBen
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yeah my turbo only has 22k kilometers on it. It’s just a lazy turbo, too big for the 13bt.
I wouldn't buy any CT26 based turbo. The turbine wheel is a paddle wheel that is really poor at turning drive pressure into boost.
I built a TD04HL-19T with an 11 blade turbine for my 4BD1T. Same thing will work great on a 13BT. But mine is still sitting in the box. Time has been lacking the last few years.
That's why you upgrade the turbine wheel to something with modern tech when building up the CT26 turbo. Just cause it's using the CT26 core doesn't mean you have to use all original CT26 parts 
FJBen
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Yeah I guess part of the allure of still using a CT26 is the reliability of the CT26 core and the fact it all bolts on. I'm just looking at all options and seeing which ones work within the budget and reliability
appreciate all the info!
appreciate all the info!
In another week Eclipse Turbo Systems will be launching and new range of turbos, so word has it.
Gone is the ECL 756 and in with the journal bearing. Top of the range turbo is designed to work with the split pulse manifold with a twin volute housing. This will be a very interesting turbo when compared to everything else out there on the market. Ive got a 1hd fte that's looking for a turbo. Was looking at a Gturbo......... but I might wait.
Gone is the ECL 756 and in with the journal bearing. Top of the range turbo is designed to work with the split pulse manifold with a twin volute housing. This will be a very interesting turbo when compared to everything else out there on the market. Ive got a 1hd fte that's looking for a turbo. Was looking at a Gturbo......... but I might wait.
The ECL756 ball bearing turbo has been gone/discontinued by Eclipse for ages but old stock has still been sold by resellers. They've been doing the SX journal bearing range instead for HD engines but I haven't seen very many results, although this has only been the traditional single scroll version but with an improvement on the internal gate flow path. The twin scroll design of theirs has been talked about since they first started up so will be good to see it finally available, there's also similar plans for TD42 engines with their own split pulse manifold to suit.
chelo
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I placed my order.. Twin volute and some new goodies. It's a nice system.
