TheGrrrrr
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I like them, but they are horribly underpowered and have a surprisingly infuriating turning radius. Aside from those two things, I think they are great.
Talk me out of a 4Runner TRD Pro
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It sounds like you want one. Stop trying to rationalize your decision and get one lol.
This is coming from someone who owns 6 cars with 4 of them being unnecessary....This is also coming from someone who owns a 2018LC and looking to add a 98% overlapping 2013-15 LC.....
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So true, lol. I'm pretty good at rationalizing my car and motorcycle addiction.
I can't imagine what would break on a road trip in an LC/LX that I couldn't get in a parts store. Alternator, hoses, belts, etc are all readily available.
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Can't deny that. But I used to own a 2010 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I would describe it the same way, or worse. Absolutely gutless to the point of pissing off any driver stuck behind me at a traffic light. And the interior was cheap plastic. I still loved it though. Can't imagine the 4R would be any more gutless or have a worse interior.
Either way, you can't loose if you buy the 4runner.
Like the 4runner > LC HE? You'll get the same price you paid for it.
Like the LC? You'll probably won't loose a dime on the T4R TRD pro if you go to sell it, that's if you got it for msrp new.
Like both? You aren't gonna loose much when it comes time to sell. Also, you can think of it as another car to keep the miles off your LC HE.
Like the 4runner > LC HE? You'll get the same price you paid for it.
Like the LC? You'll probably won't loose a dime on the T4R TRD pro if you go to sell it, that's if you got it for msrp new.
Like both? You aren't gonna loose much when it comes time to sell. Also, you can think of it as another car to keep the miles off your LC HE.
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Now you're completely enabling me, lol. This is exactly the thought process going through my head. Clearly I'm rationalizing an emotional purchase.
Maybe I'll leave it up to luck. Let's see if I'm even able to find one at MSRP. No way I'd pay over sticker for it.
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What year is your 4R?
On most trips I would agree with you.
I was on a road trip in BFE Canada on the way to Revelstoke when my buddy's Tacoma died (Alternator). We thankfully found a Napa in a tiny town, and they were able to get one from a town across the river via Ferry (Nakusp as I recall). Left his rig with a mechanic and piled in my LC for the rest of the trip while his Tacoma was repaired at the local mechanic. It was ready to go on the way back and he made it home with the rest of us.
I asked curiously if they had an Alternator for my LC. There wasn't one with 500 miles and it would take 3-5 business days. If it was my rig instead of my buddy's, I would have been stuck for a couple days on the way back waiting on parts.
Well sure, maybe in BFE Canada. My assumption is based on the parts sharing between the LC/LX and Tundra engines/transmissions/electronics. But yes there are a gazillion 4Runners and very few LCs/LXs so I understand you point. I just figured if they have Tundra parts I should be ok but I guess you never know.
Same reason we got rid of my 2016 4r limited. Funny thing is when we were buying the 4r, I told the wife left just get the LC. Her words it's too big I don't like it, well a few years later 4r gone for a LC.LC = Rear Air Conditioning - Priceless!
I never heard the end of it in any of our 4R's - Dad it's hot back here, over and over again......
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That’s the issue. The suspension is a major selling point to the TRD Pro 4Runner, but it most likely wouldn’t pass Toyota’s standards for durability on the LandCruiser platform. Something as simple as the front shock absorber is significantly more heavy duty than the part on the tundra even, and they aren’t in the business of spending the money making a part heavy duty unless they thought it was necessary.
Seems like this would depend on the individual part. Many things are shared with the 5.7 tundra, of which there are MANY on the road, and many parts in stores. Alternator availability may have been a fluke there.. or it’s possible the 5.7 tundra part would bolt up but wasn’t listed as such.
So to clear the air on the LC200 alternator and parts availability scenario.
The LC200 and Tundra 5.7 use different alternators. They might bolt up together but the plugs are completely different. A Tundra alt wont fit on a 200.
And why yes, in a place like Revy BC, it will take 3-5 days to get an alt for a 200. First of all, no land Cruisers in Canada. Secondly, there's only the LX570 which Lexus sells like 100-150 a year new in Canada. The part is coming from USA to the Canadian warehouse and then over to Revelstoke.
Parts availability is a real thing but then again that scenario was Canada where basically every part for a 200 is coming from the US and isn't available within a Canadian warehouse. Even within Toyota warehouses, let alone places like Napa.
The LC200 and Tundra 5.7 use different alternators. They might bolt up together but the plugs are completely different. A Tundra alt wont fit on a 200.
And why yes, in a place like Revy BC, it will take 3-5 days to get an alt for a 200. First of all, no land Cruisers in Canada. Secondly, there's only the LX570 which Lexus sells like 100-150 a year new in Canada. The part is coming from USA to the Canadian warehouse and then over to Revelstoke.
Parts availability is a real thing but then again that scenario was Canada where basically every part for a 200 is coming from the US and isn't available within a Canadian warehouse. Even within Toyota warehouses, let alone places like Napa.
Few vehicles made today come close in the rediculous reliability of a 5TH gen 4runner. They have very few issues. The size of the 4runner makes it great for city driving. Any bigger and it becomes more difficult to move around traffic. If you want more power than the 4.0 they make a v8 4runner if you get the lexus gx version.
I would own a GX if it had a hatch instead of the barn door on the back!
With the GX's extra 700 lbs I was not overly impressed with the power difference with the 4.6 V8. Yes, it was better, but not by much.
if you consider a GX, (current market aside) a used GX is similar in price to a 4R as they tend to depreciate a lot off the lot.
I also do not like the barn door, but my 5' wife really liked it as the lifted gate in the 4R is a bit high for her.
Coming from a 4th gen v8 4runner that I've had for 18 years, I test drove the 5th gen 4runner with the v6 a year or so ago. The v6 4runner felt like a slow dog, but not quite as bad as Tacoma. That might be o.k. for flat landers, but I don't want a slow dog with no get up and go for driving mountain highways.
We had a 2008 LX570 and a brand new (at this time) 2016 4Runner Limited that was my wife's lease. We ended up turning in the 4Runner because we just fought over who would drive the LX and who would be stuck with the 4 Runner. I also had a 2008 FJ Cruiser Trailer Teams prior. That first generation of the 4.0L felt grunty on the bottom end, the later versions had better top end performance but lost that feeling of low end torque right off idle. To me that killed the whole character of the motor, hated the 4Runner primarily for this reason.
