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Can you send a photo of exactly what it looks like? I may have a spare out of the donor 80. It had a fridge.
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lp2k
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See attached- you would want them even as a spare since if you spring a leak stateside, it will be hard to source. Also, dual filler necks if you can for those looking to add/mod for 2nd fuel tanks.
My 80-series could make ice. Look inside the console fridge... toward the front there should be a little sliding cover. Inside the sliding cover is space for two ice trays to stack on top of the AC coil. In ice mode... driving for an hour... it makes ice.
Thats what I find great in these GCC trucks: subtank, rear AC, center fridge,tire carrier, just like on a high end truck, but at the same time you get some lovely base model features!
One day, I will have all these on my 1hd-ft, to build the utlimate 80 in my perspective. But they are very hard to source here in the EU so patience
One day, I will have all these on my 1hd-ft, to build the utlimate 80 in my perspective. But they are very hard to source here in the EU so patience
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So I drove the Omani diesel 80 home for the first time tonight.
Really pleasant but a bit slow. Easiest to start in 2nd. I think things would be improved with bigger rubber. The speedometer indicates about 5km per hour slow at 70 kph and 7 kph slow at 100. It is no speed demon, but that is ok. I tend to drive a little slow anyways.
Here she is at rest at home.
I think she is idling a little fast.
Also the electric fan in front of the radiator seems to be running all the time. Not sure about that either.
But I really like driving it and the standard manual seat provides a little more room than our gas 80 in Florida so it is a bit more comfortable. I think this could serve as a daily driver.
Really pleasant but a bit slow. Easiest to start in 2nd. I think things would be improved with bigger rubber. The speedometer indicates about 5km per hour slow at 70 kph and 7 kph slow at 100. It is no speed demon, but that is ok. I tend to drive a little slow anyways.
Here she is at rest at home.
I think she is idling a little fast.
Also the electric fan in front of the radiator seems to be running all the time. Not sure about that either.
But I really like driving it and the standard manual seat provides a little more room than our gas 80 in Florida so it is a bit more comfortable. I think this could serve as a daily driver.
The electric fan in front of the radiator will likely run all the time in the summer there. It’s driven by the AC and given your current temps I’m assuming it won’t get a chance to shut down.
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Well that's the thing. It goes on even if the aircon compressor is off. I suppose it won't do any harm. I am going to check if it is on a thermostat or just always on. There is some 'aftermarket' wiring under the fusebox in the engine bay that I want to look at closely. But, as you say, in this climate it would not be crazy if it was just always on.
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John, there's a switch in the A/C hard line that controls that electric fan, assuming it's original equipment. The switch likely can't be changed without evacuating and recharging the freon, so keep that in mind if you need to have any other A/C work done. Change the switch then!
Andrew
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The aircon is key if I'm going to try to use the Omani diesel 80 as a daily driver. It did 'work' but only just and it made angry noises. If I made the drive belt quite tight the noise went away but it did not look right. I decided to use the inherent strobe effect of my phone's video camera function to see if my suspicions were right. Here's the video:
The first part of the video is with the AC off. The second part is with the AC on. You can see in the video that although it is no longer making noise (because I had tightened the belt) the AC compressor was nevertheless slipping badly.
Last summer in Virginia I had spent a lot of time learning about our petrol 80's AC, even buying an antique vacuum pump and evacuating and refilling the system and getting it to work. During the reading for this I learned that if an AC compressor actually blows it will fill the system with debris that you never can really get out completely. So I do not want to go any further with the Omani until the AC compressor is replaced.
Fortunately....
Here is the AC compressor on the Omani diesel 80:
And here is the AC compressor on the turbo diesel chassis:
Fortunately Identical.
So I've asked the guys to pull the AC compressor off the turbo diesel chassis and put it on the Omani diesel. I'm then going to investigate rebuild options for the failing compressor. The AC compressor swap should be happening as I type this. I'm going up after work to see if the AC is fixed and I can try the Omani out again as a daily driver.
Just for fun we took the Omani truck out for another spin at dusk yesterday evening when it was not too hot.
Embarassingly, I managed to get the truck stuck in the very fine, soft sand:
After digging out and importantly airing down the tires substantially the truck pulled out with little difficulty. I see that I really am going to have to have an onboard compressor on this truck.
A bit tired and a bit sandy we got back to the warehouse. Here is a photo of the turbo diesel in its current state next to the Omani diesel, waiting for the AC compressor transplant:
The first part of the video is with the AC off. The second part is with the AC on. You can see in the video that although it is no longer making noise (because I had tightened the belt) the AC compressor was nevertheless slipping badly.
Last summer in Virginia I had spent a lot of time learning about our petrol 80's AC, even buying an antique vacuum pump and evacuating and refilling the system and getting it to work. During the reading for this I learned that if an AC compressor actually blows it will fill the system with debris that you never can really get out completely. So I do not want to go any further with the Omani until the AC compressor is replaced.
Fortunately....
Here is the AC compressor on the Omani diesel 80:
And here is the AC compressor on the turbo diesel chassis:
Fortunately Identical.
So I've asked the guys to pull the AC compressor off the turbo diesel chassis and put it on the Omani diesel. I'm then going to investigate rebuild options for the failing compressor. The AC compressor swap should be happening as I type this. I'm going up after work to see if the AC is fixed and I can try the Omani out again as a daily driver.
Just for fun we took the Omani truck out for another spin at dusk yesterday evening when it was not too hot.
Embarassingly, I managed to get the truck stuck in the very fine, soft sand:
After digging out and importantly airing down the tires substantially the truck pulled out with little difficulty. I see that I really am going to have to have an onboard compressor on this truck.
A bit tired and a bit sandy we got back to the warehouse. Here is a photo of the turbo diesel in its current state next to the Omani diesel, waiting for the AC compressor transplant:
Could you make some pictures on the turbodiesel when it will be put together how the AC lines go for the cener console fridge? Or on the omani if it has one (guess witht the rear it should have)
I am soon removing the center console fridge from a RHD 80 and the lines too and somehow will try to make it work in my LHD 80.
Afaik, the compressors on most toyotas from the same era are the same, only the top connection parts can be different, but those are changable also. I am wondering if I will need to move the compressor to part from the RHD to the LHD, or maybe even the whole compressor? Does this center console fridge worth the effort?
I am soon removing the center console fridge from a RHD 80 and the lines too and somehow will try to make it work in my LHD 80.
Afaik, the compressors on most toyotas from the same era are the same, only the top connection parts can be different, but those are changable also. I am wondering if I will need to move the compressor to part from the RHD to the LHD, or maybe even the whole compressor? Does this center console fridge worth the effort?
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So yesterday I was expecting the guys to just swap in the compressor from the turbo diesel. Unfortunately they determined that the main AC expansion valve was stuck closed--they think that is the reason that the compressor is not running properly. The FSM talks about dropping the condenser without pulling the dash out but I could not do it myself on our other 80. Besides, the heater has been bypassed in the Omani truck, which usually means that it has a hole in it, and that needs to be inspected. Plus I want to attempt a repair of the cracked dash pad. So I've asked the guys to pull the dash out and we will tackle the AC, the heater core and the dash pad at the same time.
Across the street it looks like some king of interesting project is going on:
And back in the garage some progress has been made on the turbo diesel frame:
It was necessary to move the cross member because the donor truck was a manual and the turbo diesel is an automatic.
Across the street it looks like some king of interesting project is going on:
And back in the garage some progress has been made on the turbo diesel frame:
It was necessary to move the cross member because the donor truck was a manual and the turbo diesel is an automatic.
lp2k
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Makes sense to do a job like that their while your at it as it is very labor intense. While you are in there, inspect the wiring to make sure all of the connections are good. I could imagine with the desert heat, plastic may crack and not offer a good proper seal anymore. It looks like your building a truck to last you a few years so weed out the gremlins or possible areas where they can spawn. Usually, you can buy just the connector ends and change them out.
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Hi Vitek, I took a few of the lines from the fridge forward. Unfortunately everything is disconnected at present and the Omani truck (which also has a fridge) has a lot of stuff in the way. Hopefully some of this will be helpful.
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Today I started taking the dash out of the Omani truck so that (1) the AC expansion valve can be changed (2) we can test out the heater core and (3) I can repair the dash pad.
I do need some help...
Does anyone out there know how to take the choke knob off?
I really need to take it off so I can remove that panel and drop the steering wheel so I can get the dashpad off.
I do need some help...
Does anyone out there know how to take the choke knob off?
I really need to take it off so I can remove that panel and drop the steering wheel so I can get the dashpad off.
Are you sure thats not the throttle control. if it is there should be a nut on the back side ?
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Could be the throttle. It doesn't seem to do anything at the moment. I'm able to get the nut off the back but I can't get the knob off of the center part so I can take the cable out of the plastic panel that's sitting in
It’s been 5 years since I installed it but I think you need to disconnect the cable from the footpedal and then pulled it out and ten you’ll get the nut off
lp2k
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John first the throttle knob has a pin under it. You need a small screwdriver like you use for the glasses to push the pin in. Once you push the pin in, you can pull the knob out. Then there is a ring, turn the ring counter clockwise to unthread it. Then you can pull the long metal piece from behind and continue on. The rheostat has an art as well.
lp2k
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You will have to look very closely at it to disengage the clip that holds the knob. And you know it’s brittle as hell
They say the memory is the first to go, but dame, I can't remember having to mount the knob to the cable 
