Contrast: HDJ 80 1996 vs HZJ 80 1993, do you need both? YES! (1 Viewer)

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Hi,

So me and my dad we have two 80s, in this topic I will discuss their story, purpose and the work on them.

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1996 VX spec hdj80, factory triple locked, full leather, sunroof etc. 1HD-FT, full time 4wd h151f with hf2av
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1993 STD spec hzj80, no lockers, bench first row, vinly everything and ambulance doors. 1HZ, originally full time 4wd but now converted to part time, h150 hf2a
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So its started with the Hzj 75 we had. This got me into wanting a land cruiser and after a lot of reading and thinking I came to the conclusion, I want a 95-97 hdj80, triple locked, 1hd-ft, sunroof and 6H4 dark red colour.

May 2020 after searching for a while througout Europe for the ideal one, I found one literally 700 meters from my home, a guy was selling his:
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461.000 km (almost 300.000 miles)
He bought it with a cooked engine for quite cheap, replaced the engine, rebuilt the front axle and did some much needed maintenance. As far as I know, the car was previously used as a off road touring car, it has been to africa, asia several times. The car already had 2 inch OME lift installed, brand new Cooper stt pro 285 75 r16 (33 inch) tires. New depo lights.

A picture from its previous life:
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So before installing the engine, everything was refreshed, replaced since it was much easier to get all this PM done while it was out. The new engine came from the UK with 160.000 miles on it. Also, the front axle had a complete rebuilt. New bearings, axle shafts, crown wheel and pinion and all the bits.
A pretty good start right? Of course, there was still a lot to be done.

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First, we dived into the extreme amount of extra cabels installed in the car:

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Some years ago, someone made a good job, installing an inverter, radio, extra lights all around, extra horns, winch, rear power outlet, front power outlets etc.
But that was a long time ago. All that remained was a mess, with probably many PO adding and or removing things.
The car had some funny electrical things, lights on the dash randomly came on, was quite strange and not so comforting during driving. Also, there were some loose cables, so it was a priority to sort this out ASAP before something goes bad, causing an electrical fire or any other issues.

There was also some rust on the car which needed attention:
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So things on the list for the hdj80:

remove all none oem wires, fuses, connections, tidy up the wiring DONE
oil pressure gauge was not working, replaced both the sender and gauge DONE
repair rust on the front door and around windshield, install new OEM windscreen seal DONE
polish the car and remove all remaining marketing stickers DONE
repair non working central locking for trunk door, add a remote control unit to the system DONE
Take out all the seats, carpets and trim and clean the inside from the strange smell, dust and the dirst of the previous 20 years DONE
replace the bendix in the starter, check if that is causing the strange noise
replace every silent block/bush under the car as most of them are worn and broken
rebuild the rear axle, differential and driveshaft
rebuild the transmission and transfer case
fender gaskets needs to be replaced and fenders to be tidies up from those ugly screws which are installed now
replace seat gears in both front seats DONE
install CDL switch DONE
install new steering shaft and gear shifter rubber seals to reduce the noise in the cabin
recover the steering wheel and install a fitting grey airbag instead of the brown one
refill the AC and get the AC system cleaned and sterilized


Some of this work was quite easy to get done and relatively cheap, some is not. I will keep on editing this list as it goes.

I also realized the PO, the guy who replaced the engine and got the front axle rebuild was a bit hectic, when he had the money, all new OEM toyota parts (luckily for most important things) but when not, cheap aftermarket or for instance he left in the worn out silents in the front axle at a complete axle rebuild.... I mean like really??!! :oops:

I have bought everything for the rear axle, all new OEM bearing, seals, gaskets, bolts and studs. New rotors and pads, from bosch and aisin will go on aswell. I also bought every silent block/ bush with new bolts and studs. Beside that ordered a lot of good to have parts, which I will need or wanted to have while they are still available.
Huh, after the first months of making order every 2 weeks needed to better plan and revise this as it got quite expensive quickly. Here in Europe, when you order from the usual UAE supplier you have to pay import fees and VAT. Practically, what you pay for the order with shipment, x 1.3 (my country charges 3% import duty and 27% VAT). Very unfortunate thing.
But now the shelfs are nicely loaded with toyota parts in my garage :)

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So lets talk a bit about the hzj80.
After getting the hdj80, my dad realized he wants the comfort of coils, 5 doors and the flex of the 80, but meantime he was not so fond of all the electrical bits coming in the VX trim level. Therefore, he needed a hzj80. All vinyl, super basic, but hey, what is not there, that cant break down right? These are quite rare in Europe, only a few country got them and some UN ones also pop up from time to time. 2020 August a company specializing on Land cruiser restorations and builds offered one for sale, we knew it will be sold quickly so my dad went, looked at it and bought it.
The car was sold to us with 207.000 km, we were quite happy with such a low milage and seemingly great condition. Oh boy, we had a hard wake up afterwards...
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I was a bit unsure about this part time kit, tried to do some reading. Once we received the car (after a new windshield was isntalled as it was cracked and therefore could not pass the state car check and registration process) I checked the car by the VIN at toyodiy to find out more about it. Also, put the vin to a history check...
Turns out, the car which came with 200.000 kms to us from Italy, was actually a Danish car, which just had its last exam in Denmark May 2020, with 389.000 kms. Ups.
It should have been suspicious to me, the non OEM benches in the back, the fire extingishuer, window breaker, all signs of cars turned into "bus" in Denmark to save some tax. Fun fact, I am living in Denmark, so I seen quite some cruisers with these mods. But we trusted the name of the company, we never ever thought they would sell cars with tricked odometer... I will never ever buy a car from anyone without a VIN check, lesson learned.


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So the car was taken for an inspection to a 3rd party. He gave us a long list what shall be done on the car.
We contacted the seller, he was shocked by this info and he offered to bring the car back to him and will make everything right.
A full cleanup, rust repair and rust prevention treatment for the undercarriage was done by them.
A lot of time passed in between, so the car we bought in 2020 August, gut delivered in September, we could finally really use it when we took it home 2020 Dec 30.

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They were supposed to give us a list about what was exactly done on the car, they promised it several times, but after a while, the mechanic dealing with the car simply ignored my calls.
Very strange from a company with such a high reputation... and they are nice members of the Hungarian LC community. But it is how it is.
So we started with a new timing kit, belt, tensioners, seals, water pump. Turned out the ac compressor was broken, the water pump was making strange noises and the radiator was leaking.... so much for the tidy up from the company ? :clap:
Anyway, new pump,new timing kit, new thermostat, new radiator, all japanese such as Koyo or original Toyota. Rebuilt AC pump. Of course at the same time all liquids and filters on the car were also replaced. For a car you expect to be great and in general costless, this was quite some things to do. Of course, some of this we anyway would have done, I mean like at a 28 year old car, this is baselining. It just that we expected these things to be done when they took the car to make right the play with the odometer. We actually asked them to do this, offering that we will cover the costs of course.
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Not such a nice engine bay right? Along the road, we will need to tidy this up.

New OEM radiator, I was very lucky to source one within the EU for a decent price.
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Received the new sunshades for the HDJ. This set was made in France, for every window on the car, including the windscreen, its a multi layer insulation stuff. Really nice fit, will work great for my camper setup. It was not cheap, but could not find a cheaper alternative or the time to do it myself.
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And a group photo, cause they look great together!

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Received the new sunshades for the HDJ. This set was made in France, for every window on the car, including the windscreen, its a multi layer insulation stuff. Really nice fit, will work great for my camper setup. It was not cheap, but could not find a cheaper alternative or the time to do it myself.
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And a group photo, cause they look great together!

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where'd you order the shades from?!?
 
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Here is the link to the advertisment, I had to get the help of a French speaking friend to get in contact with them.
I paid around 300 euros with shipping for the full hdj set and for 2 extra hzj80 rear window ones, as those are barn door windows not split tail gate.
Let me know if you need help with contacting them :)
 
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Here is the link to the advertisment, I had to get the help of a French speaking friend to get in contact with them.
I paid around 300 euros with shipping for the full hdj set and for 2 extra hzj80 rear window ones, as those are barn door windows not split tail gate.
Let me know if you need help with contacting them :)
Sunshades
 
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So some progress on the hdj with the tire carrier:
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This was made with the design of @tangaTZ , we just had to transfer thing into metric. Thanks a lot for the CAD files!
I wonder where could be some gas struts placed to keep it steady once its open?
Later on it will be mirrored for the driver side also, probably for a jerry can or a storage box.

Cheers
 

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