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I did several papers back in the day on the history of technology, especially regarding military tech. So I engaged my research brain and did some looking about the "Bar Grip" form of tire, which is what we are talking about here.

It's primary function is to be non-directional and to shed mud.

It works as a tire; when I was a Deuce and a Half driver back in the time when the earth was young, it was the standard military tire. I never really pushed them off road; We also had them on our M151 MUTTs and they worked "ok". They were definitely limited in the wet and on ice, but I never tried to drive them on ice without chains.

After WWII, when most western militaries were using the Bar Grip due to Lend Lease and post war surpluses, a bunch of militaries transitioned to an improved version, which is what the MRF Superlug is based on. The Super Lug design allows the shedding of water, and has more contact area for sand. Technically speaking, if you want the primitive look, the Super Lug would be a better sand tire. Of course, any modern radial off road tire will probably be "better" in objective terms, but if all we cared about is "better" we'd have more modern vehicles to begin with.

Anyway, I really like what you are doing with that rig, and you are tempting me to get new springs, but I love my ride height and the completely squishy OEM springs I have on it, sag or no.
thanks for this btw @120mm I have buddys that say this type of tire works well in the sand. Most bald tires work well in sand here so it would make sense. I had a friend with a surplus m151. kinda the odd bird of military jeeps now days.
 
My latest issue now is the rear drive shaft seems to be a 1/4 inch too long now that I installed the springs. I dont think its grease in the slip yolk as it seems pretty bottomed out with a mechanical thud at the end. I could be wrong. After work today I am going to take the tires off and droop the rear suspension to see if that gives me enough room to install the drive shaft again. I will have to shorten it if that does not work and being on an island far away from a shop that does that makes that difficult to do.
 
If it's not grease stopping its travel and it's actually bottoming out, drooping the suspension to install the drive shaft is a bad idea. If the ds can't compress then that'll put pressures on the pinion or tcase when the suspension moves. You could break or wear out things. Are you sure it's the correct ds? As I recall your running an sbc, the ds may not have been altered correctly in the 1st place. Is the 40s ride height changed since the new springs?
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If it's not grease stopping its travel and it's actually bottoming out, drooping the suspension to install the drive shaft is a bad idea. If the ds can't compress then that'll put pressures on the pinion or tcase when the suspension moves. You could break or wear out things. Are you sure it's the correct ds? As I recall your running an sbc, the ds may not have been altered correctly in the 1st place. Is the 40s ride height changed since the new springs?
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ride height has been lowered . I am thinking it is for sure possible the drive shaft is incorrect. kinda hoping not to hear that but what I was thinking in the back of my mind. very frustrating to say the least.
 
ride height has been lowered . I am thinking it is for sure possible the drive shaft is incorrect. kinda hoping not to hear that but what I was thinking in the back of my mind. very frustrating to say the least.
I've heard folks being very surprised at how much grease stops the driveshaft compression - like stops dead. Once cleaned out, they get a lot more travel. But it sounds like you know what's up. All you can really do is clean out all the grease, then measure and compare against stock length specs. Good luck and great thread!
 
I’d try removing the zerk fitting before compressing the ds to see if anymore grease comes out that way if you haven’t already.
 
I’d try removing the zerk fitting before compressing the ds to see if anymore grease comes out that way if you haven’t already.
Thats my plan after work. will let everyone know if I have luck with that.
 
So I ended up getting the rear driveshaft in. the slip yok has a little wiggle room and is not bottoming out now. It had about a 1/4th inch of grease in the bottom. However the drive shaft has a few dents, welded poorly from when I think the length was changed and the ujoints seem looser than I would like. I greased them up and it tightened them a little but I think rather than putting in new u jointsI am just going to get a new driveshaft that will be 100% correct. So Ill probably order one soon rather than rebuilding the old one. trying to justify a tom woods drive shaft haha.

Flange to flange seems to be aprox 27 inches. I should have taken a picture of the crap weld on the drive shaft. May have been done in a yard like I would have done it haha.

Does anyone know what the flange bolt pattern/size of bolts is on these early fj40s? I should have measured this when I was under the truck.

Other notes the FJ40 drives like a dream boat in comparison to what it was with the old springs. the 33s seem to fit under there nice. I do worry about this once the springs settle. The shocks will get replaced as well as that they are not the best and seem a little worn. not blown though.

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So I ended up getting the rear driveshaft in. the slip yok has a little wiggle room and is not bottoming out now. It had about a 1/4th inch of grease in the bottom. However the drive shaft has a few dents, welded poorly from when I think the length was changed and the ujoints seem looser than I would like. I greased them up and it tightened them a little but I think rather than putting in new u jointsI am just going to get a new driveshaft that will be 100% correct. So Ill probably order one soon rather than rebuilding the old one. trying to justify a tom woods drive shaft haha.

Flange to flange seems to be aprox 27 inches. I should have taken a picture of the crap weld on the drive shaft. May have been done in a yard like I would have done it haha.

Does anyone know what the flange bolt pattern/size of bolts is on these early fj40s? I should have measured this when I was under the truck.

Other notes the FJ40 drives like a dream boat in comparison to what it was with the old springs. the 33s seem to fit under there nice. I do worry about this once the springs settle. The shocks will get replaced as well as that they are not the best and seem a little worn. not blown though.

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Looks fantastic. Really considering those springs or similar now that I see them with your Kendas. Mine definitely rub the front of the rear wheel wells on stock springs when off road.
 
Looks fantastic. Really considering those springs or similar now that I see them with your Kendas. Mine definitely rub the front of the rear wheel wells on stock springs when off road.
It drives a million times better. There is a little pot hole in the road close to my house that I would have to slow down for and now I don't really feel it. I am going to try and find somewhere to flex it and see how I does. It looks soo much less like a model t stance like it did before.
 
My wife pointed out that i should have done a before and after..... she is right. Ill see if I can get a similar picture to this one this weekend. The first picture was taken in December a month after I got the fj40. Notice those terrible jeep seats! Second picture was yesterday. (ill change the picture once I get it)


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@120mm Yeah the were getting heated over the stupidest crap. The one guy was just strait up being an A hole to me. All while the original post was about rebuilding a 2f and swapping in a sbc. the poor guy just wanted some honest input. I dont mind a sbc but I really want my land cruiser to be all toyota.

I am fairly certain the 2f flywheel with the 2f clutch and pressure plate with the 1f bell housing will work with the 3speed. If anyone else on mud wanted to chime in on this they could. I bough the parts from @cruisermatt He said it should all work.
I am in the same predicament for my 71 FJ40. My 1F motor is seized when I bought it last Sept of this year. I found a fairly priced 2F that I am going to swap that came with a flywheel and pressure plate that I will be using., all other original parts will go back in: 3 speed transmission and 1F bellhousing, fork and throwout bearing. Only concern is that the throwout bearing of the 3 speed is a little bit small, but I think it should work. Wanted to use a bigger throwout bearingf from a 4 speed but it is too big for the bearing carrier/housing. Ant thoughts?
 
I am in the same predicament for my 71 FJ40. My 1F motor is seized when I bought it last Sept of this year. I found a fairly priced 2F that I am going to swap that came with a flywheel and pressure plate that I will be using., all other original parts will go back in: 3 speed transmission and 1F bellhousing, fork and throwout bearing. Only concern is that the throwout bearing of the 3 speed is a little bit small, but I think it should work. Wanted to use a bigger throwout bearingf from a 4 speed but it is too big for the bearing carrier/housing. Ant thoughts?
The other concern I have is that the exhaust-intake bolts/studs of the 2F is bigger than the 1F. Thinking of just enlarging the holes of the exhaust-intake manifold.
 

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