Rust removal products~ what's your favorite/

[FJBEAR]

hmmm, not a bad idea, for $15. that is if I can run it past the boss. We have come to the conclusion that H.F isn't very good for tools.

But I think for this type of project I can afford a "desposable" blasting gun. Was it over in the Phneumatic tool section?

 

[rsbcruiser]

FJBEAR. The sandblaster from Harbour Freight sounds like a good idea. Suggest going with a glass media instead of sand. Talk to some body guys, I here the sand media will remove more metal than you want, glass or walnut shell might be better in the hands of the young uns. I have used most paint routes. Latest is best so far. Wire brushed, POR15, let dry then rough surface. I used a palm sander and 220 grit. reapply POR15 if needed. Need to rough surface because paint won't bond to POR unless the POR is roughed up. Paint over with whatever, POR 15 has no UV resistance. Put that stuff on the inside panels of your engine bay. Spilled brake fluid on enamel with POR 15 under it. Enamel toast POR 15 Untouched! 3 step process for POR? Never heard that one? Am I missing something here? Have not tried rust bullet, sounds good though. Oh ya gloves for the kids when painting that stuff. POR will bond to skin for weeks. I used a paint brush. WTH

 

[Cruiser_GT]

Yes. Pick up a extra set of gloves for the kid as well.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45998

 

[FJBEAR]

I have never used POR 15 or any other rust "sealents" so I was just going off of what I have read and found in research.

This is POR15's website. http://por15.com/ On it you will see three products they say you need to use for complete removal and protection.

Are these over kill?

 

[Trollhole]

Since this 40 is going to be driven by my 17 year old daughter, she is going to help with all the work on this rig. the 13 year old son will probably get into the work as well (so he can gain some more experience for the resto/mod of the 71 which is going to be his)

so with that said, I am not only looking for something that will work good until I sand blast it, I also want something that won't be too "dangerous" for the kids to use.

I am also thinking that the one step Rust Bullet would be easier for everyone involved also. Any thought when comparing to the 3 steps POR15 requires?

I'm afraid that when you sand blast it there will be nothing left. That picture scares me even more. That is a lot of work.

I see this when I look at thet picture. I'm sure the price you paid makes all of this go away.
Will be interested watching how this comes along.

 

[miker]

For those that have watched Nip/Tuck, this picture looks one of their patients going into the OR.

 

[FJBEAR]

yup! I saw all that rust as well. The frame is what I am most concerned with immediately. yet when a ball peen hammer was taken to the frame there was not one soft spot on it.

The body panels and such already planned for. I know being in the midwest there is typically more rust on the vehicles than not.

I already have a set of fenders I can use for the front. the rust around the fender wells in the back will be trimmed out as the goal is to use 33-35 inch tires anyway. Trimming will be necessary regardless.

The sides for the hard top…different story, I will probably need to find some replacements. As for the windshield. I am going to make a judgement call once the rig gets to me. But I am thinking right now that I might be able to do some skin graphs on it. The rust doesn't appear to be around any of the wipers or motors. I have another shot from a different angle that illustrates that area better. But that could all change once I see first hand.

The bib, is superficial, it is solid, just needs to be treated. But if it is worse than I imagine, again those are easy to find and usually cheap. Plus I have one already sitting for the '71 which means I have time to find another one if need be for the 71.

So that brings me back to the frame, my main concern right now. But yes you are also right about the price making things invisible! I did get it for a song and a dance! (which must have been a good one, because the wife sure fell for it! )

 

[FJBEAR]

Cool! thanks for the link! I am definitely going to pick up the extra gloves!

Funny thing…I have already gotten tired of my son getting into my tools and have banned him about a dozen times from the garage due to it. So what does he do? convinces me to start him a tool collection of his own. which include a set of shop gloves already!

(kids have the darndest way of conning you out of your "good intentions". )

 

[pjohnson]

I have used Zero Rust with good results. Very similar to Rust Bullet. Remove all the loose stuff and paint.

Just for good measure, I put a coat of Rustoleum over the Zero Rust. It wasn't required though.

Phil

 

[FJBEAR]

Zero rust! that is the other one I was forgetting! I'll need to compare it to the Rust Bullet stuff. I think I have almost made up my mind.

1) media blast using blasting gun posted eariler
2) treat with Rust Bullet (might look into Zero rust if cheaper)
3)coat with Rust bearer paint
4) month from now, do complete frame off resto on the '78!

thanks!

 

[bobsworld2062]

Naval Jelly is at Home Depot, paint dept in the same aisle as the caulk, glue etc.. ask an associate for help... Good Luck!!

 

[rsbcruiser]

(kids have the darndest way of conning you out of your "good intentions". )[/quote] Ya, just think of an adult whos' only job is to vex you.

 

[bakelite]

I really like POR 15, wire brush the metal, knock off the big chunks and brush it on. Goes a long way also. Rubber gloves a good idea. lol

 

[FJBEAR]

thanks! I could have swore I have looked there before. Must have missed it!

Well the new FJ arrived tonight...and I don't think there is enough Naval jelly in this state to help all the rust. I knew it was going to be ruff, but I think it is a bit more ruff than I anticipated. I felt kinda bad for the kid when she came out and saw it up close. It wasn't quite what either one of us expected. But I am still optomistic. I just got to prove to her that ole dad has some tricks up his sleeve that she don't know about yet!

on an up note, the frame is solid

 

[Cruiser_GT]

Good to hear the frame is okay... make the trip to HD and pick up a gallon of phosphoric acid and a couple of spray bottles. Spray her down good and leave her to dry out.

 

[FJBEAR]

Yup! the frame is in tact. and the body panals, may look bad, but a plan of attack is already being forumlated! She will be a beute when we are finished

Immediate game plan is to Get the motor cleaned up/healthy and then the brakes. (we pushed her off the trailer and my wife freaked when she hit the brakes and there were none!…I guess I should have warned her first.

so it is chaulked up behind the other 40 and we will start cleaning her out tonight and "swapping plugs" tomorrow.

I guess I could go get the acid you recommend tonight and spray her down to get her ready. but the question has to be asked, do you think there will be any reaction between the acid and the rust "treatment"? I still want to slather her down with something.

( I hope to get photos to start documenting her transformation as well)

 

[Cruiser_GT]

... do you think there will be any reaction between the acid and the rust "treatment"? I still want to slather her down with something.

Take a close look at the rust "treatment"... I'd bet dollars to donuts that it has phosphoric acid as its main ingredient. It is a great etcher IMHO.

Go to the Body section and do a search. There's some good tech there on rust treatment.

 

[FJBEAR]

Thanks, I'll go to the body folder…I am still learning my way around this forum.

 

[llih]

Zero Rust works great. Comes in colors and you can buy it in rattle cans, qts and gallons. No mixing. It can be thinned with lacquer thinner. I used it on some of my work and had no problems top coating it with a 2 part surfacer/primer. The only prep is pre-cleaning it with the zero rust prep step. It does take it a while to fully cure/dry. Thick coats can still be soft after a few weeks in mild weather.

 

[FJBEAR]

thanks for your input! so far Zero rust and Rust bullet are winning compared to the other brands I have seen!

I like the idea of the Zero Rust coming in different colors.