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They look good. Reasonable looking tread pattern. Looks meaty enough but should be pretty quiet. I need to check more into this tire. Thanks for the pictures, they give good perspective.
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Do you know the difference in the xlt and the 4s? I'd it just light truck vs p metric or is the tread different? Starting to research them.
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Yokohama G015 is a classic and may fit your needs. Reliable. Durable. Fairly quiet. Not the most aggressive AT but would be more than enough for your needs i think. Proven. Big manufacturer.
Yeah, personally, i stay away from smaller tire manufacturers (Coopers, Toyos, Nitto, etc.). My opinion often goes against lots of people here…so…take my take with grain of salt.
Yeah, personally, i stay away from smaller tire manufacturers (Coopers, Toyos, Nitto, etc.). My opinion often goes against lots of people here…so…take my take with grain of salt.
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I think it’s probably like this:
At3 4S - suv/crossover, light off road ability
At3 LT - 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, meant for heavy loads
At3 XLT - light truck and suv, they use “extreme off road conditions” in the tire description. I think that’s a stretch, I’d go with a different tire if I needed to do extreme off roading.
I like Yokohama but don’t have any personal experience with their tires. I don’t know what justifies small in the tire industry, but Cooper is a subsidiary of Goodyear tire company with a valuation of over $5 billion.Yokohama G015 is a classic and may fit your needs. Reliable. Durable. Fairly quiet. Not the most aggressive AT but would be more than enough for your needs i think. Proven. Big manufacturer.
Yeah, personally, i stay away from smaller tire manufacturers (Coopers, Toyos, Nitto, etc.). My opinion often goes against lots of people here…so…take my take with grain of salt.
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The Yokohama was my leader in the clubhouse until I looked at this Cooper a little closer. I've got a buddy who had a terrible experience with Cooper so that had me not paying attention to them much. I always read a lot of positive on the Cooper AT on truck camper forums though.Yokohama G015 is a classic and may fit your needs. Reliable. Durable. Fairly quiet. Not the most aggressive AT but would be more than enough for your needs i think. Proven. Big manufacturer.
Yeah, personally, i stay away from smaller tire manufacturers (Coopers, Toyos, Nitto, etc.). My opinion often goes against lots of people here…so…take my take with grain of salt.
The Yokos are what you’re looking for. Or Michelin.
The unicorn of cool-looking tread, aggressive sidewall and quiet (for the life of the tire) doesn’t exist.
I am on my 3rd set of Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires. My first and second sets were P-Metrics on my GX470, and I got about 50,000 miles out of them with great tread wear and were really quiet. My 3rd set is on my LC. LT's with 25,000 on them and still have 12/32+ left. Quiet and well mannered on the highway, and they never disappoint off highway or in snow. I highly recommend them for the DD that doubles as a weekend warrior.
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Nobody commented on the Falken Rubitrek AT's. I figured I'd guinea pig them for the group so I ordered a set. They look a little more road biased than the Wild Peaks but still hold the 3 peak mountain snow rating and a 55k mile warranty and road hazard rating.
Final thoughts on the Toyo OC AT3's. They ride well, track and handle well. I like everything about them except the slight roar (mostly between 40-60mph) - might just be the sound frequency. I should mention I've had some hearing issues lately and I don't get low frequencies in one of my ears, only highs. The reason I mention this is so you don't just take my experience as gospel, it might just be my hearing perception. I'm going to make a comparison video so you'll be able to hear what my camera picks up between the 2 tires.
Final thoughts on the Toyo OC AT3's. They ride well, track and handle well. I like everything about them except the slight roar (mostly between 40-60mph) - might just be the sound frequency. I should mention I've had some hearing issues lately and I don't get low frequencies in one of my ears, only highs. The reason I mention this is so you don't just take my experience as gospel, it might just be my hearing perception. I'm going to make a comparison video so you'll be able to hear what my camera picks up between the 2 tires.
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P metric. 285/70r17
Nice details chart here under “size and specs” drop down fyi for others:
I'm due for new tires on my 2011 LX with about 160k on it. I've had 275/65r20 Wildpeak AT3/W's on for probably around 60k miles now and I have no complaints at all. They've taken me to Utah, Colorado, towed a camper, taken me out east, and many other places. They just started making themselves noticeable with noise in I'd say the past 10k miles or so? I've been debating what I want to replace them with and in what size for probably the past month and still don't have a solid answer. I also saw the Rubitrek's and those have my interest, but I think I want to go with 285/60r20's this round. The Toyo AT3's seem to check my boxes but the noise concerns me, the Cooper Discovery AT3's, the new Nitto Recon Grappler's and then the milder AT's that would probably be a better fit for my actual daily driving. I've also considered just getting another set of Wildpeak AT3/W's as I really have no complaints at all with them and I know what I'm getting. The Rubitrek's don't come in the size I want. And now back to my indecisiveness....
oh god please no
34 PSI bare minimum on those. Source? Trust me bro.
I vote G015, put them on a family GX. Never been disappointed with Yokohama.
The tire you are on now is a true POS though and will only continue to get worse. Specially under inflated like that. Doodoo sidewalls and scam-my marketing. They almost lost me as a customer really till they bought em back.
Also, cooper dont get enough love here. But somehow wildpeaks? Idk
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The guy who is revered by people who cant google or learn?
I settled at 36 then realized my mistake and swapped for the LTs. This was after a year of being fed up then realizing I got ripped off with the inferior sidewall. Ive ranted about it enough. Search if you like. The P AT3s from Japan are a scandal, and better suited for subarus, not a 4 ton truck.
This platform can EASILY handle LTs and they just suit the rig so so well. The difference between the P at 36-38 and the LT-Cs at 34-36 isnt even a thing. And it handles A LOT better.
Trust me brah.
Im just trying to help you since you are in your return period. But, i know some people cant be helped either. So do what you love brother!
Its a good tire, but not on our trucks.
Nitto recon grappler has that size in a passenger oriented (rather than light truck) tire. You’d shave some weight, be able to run a lower pressure (softer suspension) and potentially reduce some road noise. You’d lose some of that light truck tire toughness though. I’m considering this when the time comes to replace my tires…if you end up purchasing them, please post photos and a review.
Also, pirelli has an all terrain in a passenger oriented tire in that size too.
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I’m trying to keep up with this thread but I’m a little confused. I thought all cruisers (at least our North American variants, 80,100,200 series) came with P-metric tires from the factory.
I always assumed that many of us, myself included, like to run LT tires for the benefit of heavier loads and more off road durability. I’m not understanding why some of the opinions expressed in this thread are against this idea.
Maybe I need to go back and reread everything.
Edit: another thing I thought about is that if P-metric tires can hold 44psi and the manufacturer recommends it to be run at 32psi, why can’t I run an E-rated tire with a maximum pressure of 80psi be run at 32psi? I feel like the E-rated or LT tire, because it’s made stronger, could easily handle lower pressure without compromising the integrity. Is this not the case?
I just did the chalk test on my brand new Coopers( at3 xlt 285/75/16 E) at 33psi front and rear and my results showed that I could run them slightly lower than 33psi.
I always assumed that many of us, myself included, like to run LT tires for the benefit of heavier loads and more off road durability. I’m not understanding why some of the opinions expressed in this thread are against this idea.
Maybe I need to go back and reread everything.
Edit: another thing I thought about is that if P-metric tires can hold 44psi and the manufacturer recommends it to be run at 32psi, why can’t I run an E-rated tire with a maximum pressure of 80psi be run at 32psi? I feel like the E-rated or LT tire, because it’s made stronger, could easily handle lower pressure without compromising the integrity. Is this not the case?
I just did the chalk test on my brand new Coopers( at3 xlt 285/75/16 E) at 33psi front and rear and my results showed that I could run them slightly lower than 33psi.
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Allow me me break it down.
P tires are great, just not oversized on a 3 ton plus truck at low pressure.
Physics are gonna physic. No amount of internet dumb s*** will change that lol.
The industry demands we run light truck tires at 35 psi minimum…and more than that for some tires.
The idea is that the extra layers of rubber which make them tougher in a light truck tire do no support themselves and thus require more air to hold it up.
When you put less than the minimum, the rubber supposedly rolls against itself or somehow else generates heat and becomes unsafe as it prematurely wears the tire out.
Ironically a weaker (p or euro metric) tire can generally be run at a (sometimes markedly) lower psi than a light truck tire (the oem lt285 70 r17 tire calls for 40 psi vs 26 psi for a p285 70 r17).
People are considering putting p metric tires on their vehicles because running lower psi makes for a softer more compliant ride. Also a lighter tire leads to less weight going up each time you hit a bump, leading to more oem/compliant suspension response. P metric tires, for 99% of drivers, are tough enough for peoples uses.
And there are very very few videos presenting how a p or euro metric tire handles rough Offroad conditions compared to light truck…for all we know, modern p metrics are more tough than some older light truck tires.
Complicating things further…some p and euro metric tires can be run at higher psi’s than light truck tires (see falken wildpeak’s 285 70 r17’s that can run up to 51 psi)
