- May 8, 2004
1998....barely broken in. 2.02.09
depends, would you rather drop a diff or a tranny??x2.
Defensive owner of an 02 here.
I haven't heard of any specific problems on 00-02s that earlier models didn't deal with; in fact, if anything, the stronger front diff would swing that argument the other direction.
depends, would you rather drop a diff or a tranny??
The 98-99 were put together better than the 00-02's. really the only known issue with the earlier years were the diff. The 00-02 had leaky manifolds and s***ty trannys.. and the built in espresso machine is quirky...
actually i am just fawking around, but there are half truths in there. I am sure Shotts can fill you in on your s***ty 02 100....
this has really been hashed out all over this forum. It basically came down to a toss up for the very reason you state, unless you throw an ARB locker in the front of a 98-99.Maybe you know something I don't; I don't spend as much time on the forum as I'm sure some of you do, BUT, are "s***ty trannys" really that common on 00-02's? Is it a different tranny that what was used in 98-99s? I assumed they were the same. And, are the manifold leaks something that happen 'only' to 00's or later?
Not doubting you necessarily, but I don't see any science behind your statement that "98-99s were put together better." What are you basing that on? Are you aware of production changes at the plant or something like that? Maybe different parts suppliers?
If you know things I don't, educate me, but all I'm hearing is an opinion, nothing fact-based.
Nothing wrong with loving the year you drive, I suppose, but I'll need convincing that earlier models are "better" than later ones. And, even if it were "fact" that manifolds leak on only 00-02s, I'll consider that a trade-off for having VSC/TRAC and call it even (Schotts is grinning somewhere).
No argument from me that Toyota homered with the 100 series right from the get-go; as you mentioned usually the first couple years of a model have lots of gremlins to work out. I guess that's part of why we drive Toyotas, isn't it?this has really been hashed out all over this forum. It basically came down to a toss up for the very reason you state, unless you throw an ARB locker in the front of a 98-99.
Trannys have been an issue with 00-+, not the case for 98-99. Manifold leaks where an issue with the 00-+ models as well . These are both known issues/weaknesses with the 00-02, just as the weaker front diff of the 98-99 are an issue. Other than the weaker diff there are no other "issues" that are blaring or high $$ to fix for the earlier years.
pretty much what i was getting at in my first post is the fact Toyota did a great job on quality bringing the 100 series to the market. Most of the time when a car company completely redesigns a car/truck the first years out suck and have a lot of issues.
That's what I'm asking! For example, with front diffs, we know they switched from 2-pinion to 4-pinion for MY2000 to strengthen it and hopefully alieviate the breakage issues.What transmission issues with 00-02?.