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Guess what. The flagship off-road vehicle is NOT a rock crawler. Go look around any Australian or 3rd World Country where these are used and they’re running 33s at best on 17” steel wheels.Either way if not designed to easily fit 35's they will sell no more than the 200 series. Were talking flagship off-road vehicle and you can fit 285's at best? For about the same price you can get a 500HPish with 37's from the factory elsewhere, Toyota diehard or not if that's the best they can offer I'll stick with the 80 or go elsewhere, they are still lost after moving on from the 80 series. They are even claiming they are close to 37's on the new defenders and on a unibody even... nothing about this says flagship off-road Land cruiser. I realize it's not always about tire size but 285's can only get you so far unless you add 1000lbs plus of armor and drag on everything in site.
I didn't say anything about rock crawler. Comparing sales of two off-road vehicles for 2020. Someone is doing something right the other got lost. Others are going after this market, Toyota has 3 suv's all mediocre so apparently they are happy with this. The 4runner is more of a off-road flagship than the land cruiser, sorry. People aren't buying the LC anymore for a reason. 285's at best without major issues is not a off-road flagship sorry.Guess what. The flagship off-road vehicle is NOT a rock crawler. Go look around any Australian or 3rd World Country where these are used and they’re running 33s at best on 17” steel wheels.
?? Toyota sells hundreds of thousands of Cruisers a year everywhere else. They also cannot keep a 4Runner on the lot stateside due to demand.I didn't say anything about rock crawler. Comparing sales of two off-road vehicles for 2020. Someone is doing something right the other got lost. Others are going after this market, Toyota has 3 suv's all mediocre so apparently they are happy with this. The 4runner is more of a off-road flagship than the land cruiser, sorry. People aren't buying the LC anymore for a reason. 285's at best without major issues is not a off-road flagship sorry.
Toyota LC-3146
Jeep-201,000
Toyota wants to continue 3000-400 sales a year at best
My point of view is from the states not worldwide. If you look at the history of sales in the US, the only reasonable sales they had were the 80 series, A few years into the 100 and sales dropped big time again, the 200 came and sales fell off the map, half the people that own a 200 probably don't even know what a land cruiser at one time was capable of. There is a reason for this is my point. The front axle IMO was another I didn't even mention but realize that ship sailed long ago, jeep is making it work, why cant Toyota? The point was the ability to modify the vehicle so you can load up the family , because they wont fit in a jeep, and go off-road, overland, go for a hike up a forest road, you fill in the blanks but main point for a off-road vehicle is to be a step beyond mall cruiser which looks to be their target now. The ability to add mild lift and 35's IMO are a target every "off-read" flagship should have otherwise throw in a fancy limited slip or lockers and chase the Cadillac's to the malls. Seeing you have spent time in Alaska I would think you would understand. Without even slight modification to what I see I wouldn't take my family much up any forest road and likely not even off a county road especially if it will bring $10K of body work after the fact if you lucky to get back out.?? Toyota sells hundreds of thousands of Cruisers a year everywhere else. They also cannot keep a 4Runner on the lot stateside due to demand.
You inferred because the cruiser couldn’t fit a 35” tire that it wasn’t off-road capable/worthy.
AKA the Lexus version we will see here in U.S.....That is the ''city version'' of the 300
Looking forward to it. Hopefully this year but with Lexus it could be years awayAKA the Lexus version we will see here in U.S.....
35s from the factory, unless something changed.Nice trimmable fender feature and flat surface to mount flares possibly? They better start considering this with all the upcoming "offroad" vehicles coming out. Ford offering 37's on their bronco from the factory! Common Toyota, enough with the mall cruisers already... leave that to Cadillac.
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35s from the factory, unless something changed.
Thanks.2021 Ford Bronco: Warthog/Raptor Getting 37-Inch Tires, "Lightning Blue" Limited
Ford reveals restrictions on the 2021 Bronco's available Lightning Blue paint color and teases an even larger, 37-inch off-road tire option.www.google.com