New Tundra vs LC200

[misterjason]

Have any of you current LC200 USA owners considered adding a new Tundra to your garage or switching to one? Curious since I have been enamored with the LC200 for a while and need a newer vehicle but am also considering the new Tundra.

Thank you in advance!

 

[1Maverick]

Have any of you current LC200 USA owners considered adding a new Tundra to your garage or switching to one? Curious since I have been enamored with the LC200 for a while and need a newer vehicle but am also considering the new Tundra.

Thank you in advance!

I personally don’t like the new Tundra. If I were to buy a truck, the F-150 or GMC Denali. My buddy loves his Denali truck and I drove in it once and it was very comfortable and much better options compared to the Tundra and I think it looks much nicer as well. A neighbor has a white GMC AT4 and it just looks good. The new Tundra has weird lines and doesn’t seem well thought out. The 200 is just a great Swiss Army knife and if you need to haul big stuff once in awhile, rent a trailer.

 

[coleAK]

My buddy has a new tundra. It’s odd and dated, Toyota updated the drivetrain 5-7 years late. If you want a 200 get one, the new tundra isn’t close to the same class of vehicle.

 

[Madtiger]

If I was in the market for a truck, then I would buy Ford F150 Hybrid with Pro Power 7.2kW generator. Period. No argument needed. It is probably the most useful vehicle on the planet. 24 MPG. 12k tow capability. Luxurious. And can power your whole darn house in a power outage!!

 

[jefo13]

Silverado ZR2 seems nice for a pick-up, decent stance and looks, impressive shock system, locker…

 

[bloc]

Get under both of them then decide which you want. The 200 is a different class of vehicle. If quality ranks anywhere on your priority list, ford/gm/etc are a distant third after 200/tundra but even among those two there is a different standard.

 

[highfructose]

Have any of you current LC200 USA owners considered adding a new Tundra to your garage or switching to one? Curious since I have been enamored with the LC200 for a while and need a newer vehicle but am also considering the new Tundra.

Thank you in advance!

Née tundra (and sequoia) do not have awd/permanent 4wd like the 200 does. The older tundra doesn’t have it either. Those are deal killers for me.

 

[OregonLC]

My recommendation is to have clarity of your mission. There’s a big difference between any current full-size and a Land Cruiser-type SUV. Full size builds get a lot of attention right now, but may or may not fit your needs. Consider the type of trails you like to run, seating capacity, wheelbase, the need to climb into/of of the bed, the effect a transfer case has on turning radius in 4WD, etc. Having ran a Power Wagon 75th for the last year I’m not sure it’s the right fit. It by far is the nicest interior and driving experience of anything out there. It’s just big. Exploring remote trails in the PNW often requires tight maneuvering around brush and trees. While a locked PW with sway bar disconnect is extremely capable, those 6” in extra width and 20” in extra wheelbase make a big difference. If you’re mostly on wider trails then it’s less of an issue. Definitely not saying ‘don’t do it’ just make sure it aligns with your goals.

 

[BTay1]

All valid, personal, points above. I think it all depends on what the individual need or want is.

We have a 2015 LX570 and a 2022 SR5 Tundra. The Tundra is loaded to near limited spec…no sunroof by choice. I’ve changed the tires and wheels.

The LX570 is obviously a solid. quality built, SUV. While the Tundra is not built to the same level, the driving experience is awesome! Very comfortable, plenty of power, lots of technology upgrades, truck is so easy to drive.

We’re actually considering trading the LX570 for a second Tundra. My wife is encouraging this, while I struggle to let go of the solid, dependable, 200 platform. We have 2- 2008 4Runners as well. The 2022 Tundra is our preferred everyday vehicle, by a wide margin at this point.

 

[Madtiger]

My recommendation is to have clarity of your mission. There’s a big difference between any current full-size and a Land Cruiser-type SUV. Full size builds get a lot of attention right now, but may or may not fit your needs. Consider the type of trails you like to run, seating capacity, wheelbase, the need to climb into/of of the bed, the effect a transfer case has on turning radius in 4WD, etc. Having ran a Power Wagon 75th for the last year I’m not sure it’s the right fit. It by far is the nicest interior and driving experience of anything out there. It’s just big. Exploring remote trails in the PNW often requires tight maneuvering around brush and trees. While a locked PW with sway bar disconnect is extremely capable, those 6” in extra width and 20” in extra wheelbase make a big difference. If you’re mostly on wider trails then it’s less of an issue. Definitely not saying ‘don’t do it’ just make sure it aligns with your goals.

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Exactly. Once you go full-size truck, you don’t need locker(s) or even a lift kit because you cannot go to places that you would need it. Most factory 4x4 full size truck have around 9 inches of clearance…which is plenty for most mild trails. Most trucks, even lifted, have piss poor approach/departure/break over angles.

For me, 99% of off-road full-size truck owners do is on gravel roads and sight seeing. Technical trails that need lockers will be too tight for full-size vehicles.

That is why the F150 Hybrid is so attractive either as backup generator to your house or to power your RV or off-road trailer. The Pro Power generator is far more useful on a truck than any off-road toys (lockers, lift, etc) because it can be useful anywhere anytime.

 

[2021 LC200]

I like our 2021 LC200 and will probably keep it 20 year +. Only thing I do not like is the 12 to 18 mpg.

I do like the new Tundra and the what i can see the online info on the new Sequoia, in specific the TRD Pro. If I was in the market now I would wait until the Sequia is out for at least 6 months and test drive, then make the final choice. Tundra can be driven now of course.

Bottomline all great choices and Toyota's which will likely stand out from Fords/GM's/Chryslers etc. over longer ownership.

Luxury problem, enjoy!

 

[Madtiger]

I like our 2021 LC200 and will probably keep it 20 year +. Only thing I do not like is the 12 to 18 mpg.

I do like the new Tundra and the what i can see the online info on the new Sequoia, in specific the TRD Pro. If I was in the market now I would wait until the Sequia is out for at least 6 months and test drive, then make the final choice. Tundra can be driven now of course.

Bottomline all great choices and Toyota's which will likely stand out from Fords/GM's/Chryslers etc. over longer ownership.

Luxury problem, enjoy!

Sequoia, even in TRD form, has approach/break over/departure angles of a RAV4!! Useless. Poor 3rd row design. Less room than before. No KDSS. No full-time 4wd or on-demand AWD.

 

[1Maverick]

Sorry the Tundra is not a serious truck contender. Most ranchers I know own either Fords or Rams, mostly Fords. My grandfather has a few of them on his orchards still running after 15yrs.

 

[tbisaacs]

Sorry the Tundra is not a serious truck contender. Most ranchers I know own either Fords or Rams, mostly Fords. My grandfather has a few of them on his orchards still running after 15yrs.

Had no idea the gap was this big

 

[1Maverick]

Had no idea the gap was this big


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Me either

 

[stonepa]

When I want a pickup I’ll either rent one or buy an early 2000’s (pre Def) diesel Ford or Ram. Most likely a 2500 and 2WD. My LC handles everything else.

 

[highfructose]

When I want a pickup I’ll either rent one or buy an early 2000’s (pre Def) diesel Ford or Ram. Most likely a 2500 and 2WD. My LC handles everything else.

I would lean towards a 2011-2012 because that’s when most of the 3/4 and 1 ton pickups got rollover stability control, which was a significant safety upgrade. Fatality statistics bear this out. Vehicles without it tend to rollover and rollovers tend to kill people.

If I was forced to build an ultimate pickup, I’d probably get an extended cab 2008 or so tundra, have the frame boxed in, and swap in a 200 series transfer case.

But the thing about pickups is that a 200 is basically a super short wheelbase 4 door pickup with an integrated camper shell, third row, and more sound deadening material…which, when coupled with a nice trailer, exceeds the overall utility of a pickup IMO.

 

[Umbrarian]

Had no idea the gap was this big


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LOL but I saw 2 Hummer EVs on the road a few weeks ago, so production has since doubled! And I saw 1 of the Rivians yesterday.

 

[04UZJ100]

Silverado ZR2 seems nice for a pick-up, decent stance and looks, impressive shock system, locker…

Look underneath…..it’s a joke. Evidence of cost cutting and poor engineering everywhere.

 

[coleAK]

Had no idea the gap was this big


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Yep the f150 had been the #1 selling vehicle (not just truck) in the US for >20 years.