ARCHIVE New rear bumper design
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Will this bumper not be able to have swing outs on it? On past vehicles I always ditched the swing outs anyway, putting the spare in the back. I haven't got to that point yet in the 80, mainly because I use the roof rack and need the ladder.
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No swing outs.....If you have ever had them they its not hard to learn to hate.
The owners plan is to get his spare out of the inside and go to a narrow rim with a Q78 tire. The tire mount and winch has be raised.
Note: This is not a bumper for everyone, The design as laid out in the first post in specific to fill a nitch with specific needs.
But ugly, butt does everything you listed
I'm quit irritated w a swing out often.
I'm quit irritated w a swing out often.
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It doesn't attach to the pinch weld?
Looks good.
No but it does give them a little kiss so they dont feel neglected.
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Do take note even with your super tight chopped design where you do get contact...corners.
yup, "unseen rocks" can do that 
I know it goes against a few of your design considerations, but I really like Kirk's bumper here:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/high-clearance-80-series-rear-bumper.125260/
Since My rear quarters are rusted to hell, I might consider this.
I also really like what you did with being able to hit everything on your list. I agree with the others about filling in the web for looks.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/high-clearance-80-series-rear-bumper.125260/
Since My rear quarters are rusted to hell, I might consider this.
I also really like what you did with being able to hit everything on your list. I agree with the others about filling in the web for looks.
In a world of compromise, this design looks to have possibilities for weekend trail use, but other than that, absolutely none for those that also use the 80 in town. I like the idea of "100% bolt on no mods required". Too bad unbolting my Kaymar and bolting on this bumper on Friday night & reversing the process on Sunday night isn't feasible.
Why would you want to put a spare in the factory location? Factory location is such a pain if you have to use it. For all the bad press swing outs get, they're very usable when you need the spare, plus they comply quite nicely to "high clearance" requirements, if properly designed.
I know this is supposed to be 100% bolt on, but I think it sticks out way too far for a minimal high clearance bumper with no swingouts. Ajax1 has the right idea. Shortening the frame rails and cutting off the cross member like the 4x4Labs bumper would make it a better design. Somebody looking for lots of clearance shouldn't be afraid of the grinder.
Just my two pennies. I like the idea though.
Just my two pennies. I like the idea though.
Not gonna find 'super high clearance' and 'bolt on' in the same customer. Any one looking for either of those is a completely different group vs the other.
There are two very distinct 80 groups slowly peeling away from eachother. Those who wanna shove these things as far as possible into the Forrest and those who wanna totearound a bunch of REI gear and pretend they're doing something they aren't.
Both are great, and I'm more the latter recently, but if you wanna reinvent the 4x4labs bumper or something it ain't gonna happen with nuts and bolts...
There are two very distinct 80 groups slowly peeling away from eachother. Those who wanna shove these things as far as possible into the Forrest and those who wanna totearound a bunch of REI gear and pretend they're doing something they aren't.
Both are great, and I'm more the latter recently, but if you wanna reinvent the 4x4labs bumper or something it ain't gonna happen with nuts and bolts...
C6H12O6
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I get what you're saying, but it is this kind of attitude that has driven me away from my local club and much of the wheeling community, in general. I get really tired of the comments, good-natured as they may be, that a rig is somehow not tall enough, or the tires just aren't big enough, or that the owner is some sort of poser if they want some armor on their rig for the few times a year when they actually need it.
I have no delusions about how gnarly of an off-roader I am. I think one of the greatest things about the 80 is the do-it-all nature. It is exactly the kind of rig, in stock or very nearly stock form, that you can go wheeling, camping, fishing, Christmas tree hunting, etc., then hose her off and drive it to work on Monday. While many of the people here on 'MUD are building their 80s into extremely capable beasts, I would guess the vast majority of people here are lurkers who don't need/want high clearance armor with swing outs and ladders and extra fuel cans. I personally hate swing outs. I tow my boat more often than I wheel my truck and the visibility hit of a big tire on a swing out is more of an issue than the clearance for me. I applaud people looking to build a better/cheaper/simpler mousetrap when it comes to bumpers and such.
LFD2037
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Well, that was nicely said! I'm in between. I use my rig as a DD, go hunting, fishing, grocery shopping, kids to/from school, on the ranch, but I'll also wheel the piss out of it. I could use a less aggressive bumper than what's currently available but not at the cost of it looking like crap.
I think you misinterpreted everything he tried to say, which was that you can't really have a super high clearance bumper that is 100% bolt on. Some cutting and grinding will be needed. It's a necessary evil given the awful approach angle the 80s have in the back.
C6H12O6
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No, I get all that and I'm really not starting to turn this thread into anything other than a discussion about the design of the bumper. I was just pointing out that some people are attacking the design based on things that were contrary to what the OP laid out as his criteria for the design. I might have editorialized my post a bit, but I was trying to point out that just because this design isn't a super high-clearance with swing outs design doesn't mean it isn't a perfectly valid design, based on those initial criteria.
My comments aimed at the "pretending to be something they aren't" really weren't meant as an attack. I totally get what Booger was saying, but just wanted to point out that wanting a beefed up bumper, or sliders, or a mild lift, etc. doesn't mean somebody is trying to pretend they are some thing they aren't. Any design is about trade-offs. Many of us are simply willing to trade clearance and swing outs for some other features, while still beefing up a critical weakness in the 80.
My comments aimed at the "pretending to be something they aren't" really weren't meant as an attack. I totally get what Booger was saying, but just wanted to point out that wanting a beefed up bumper, or sliders, or a mild lift, etc. doesn't mean somebody is trying to pretend they are some thing they aren't. Any design is about trade-offs. Many of us are simply willing to trade clearance and swing outs for some other features, while still beefing up a critical weakness in the 80.
I think he fully understood that. He was commenting on the negative comment the other guy made about people with "lesser" trucks.
C6H12O6
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Looking again at the original post, I agree that something is going to have to give here. Excellent corner clearance and high clearance are pretty tough if you aren't willing to start hacking away at the rear of the frame. Maybe that's the rub. It's tough to do much back there and still maintain the ability to put the spare underneath. Every popular bumper seems to need that space for bracing and support after the cross-member is cut away and/or a receiver is added to the bumper.
