"New" FJ45 ute with some questions and pics

[Lupdog]

I picked up a basket case 1974 FJ45. The firewall plate says FJ45P. Can someone tell me what does the "P" stand for?

A few pics just for fun too. And why is my roof held down with clamps at the top of the windsceen when the rear is bolted to the tub? Was this normal practice for some years?

Also, are they the correct doors for this truck? I thought the later style doors started in '75.

 

[Lupdog]

I dragged her back to my place. Luckily only about 2 miles as you will see. hitch and look at the state of that tyre and count those wheel nuts!

Also a pic of the engine bay

 

[SOOT]

Lupdog,

Good to see another old girl getting saved. I have seen pics of those roof latches on mud before, here is one.



That is some heavy sidewall damage on that tyre, glad she got home safe with those wheel nuts.

I can't help with the P coding or the doors but someone will chime in with that info.

Where are you going to start? have fun

Soot

 

[Aussie 25]

The Clips

I had a fj45 1973 with the old stye doors and it had the clips like them and clips where the rear panel meets the bottom panel . If you took a cople of bolts out the roof ,the back panel and the roof comes off and the screan folds down on the bonnet. Nice way to cruise the back beach of fraser island.

 

[Lupdog]

Lupdog,

Good to see another old girl getting saved. I have seen pics of those roof latches on mud before, here is one.

View attachment 730071

That is some heavy sidewall damage on that tyre, glad she got home safe with those wheel nuts.

I can't help with the P coding or the doors but someone will chime in with that info.

Where are you going to start? have fun

Soot

Yep, I drove past this truck just sitting in the paddock nearly every day for 2 years. A couple of my projects need plenty of parts so I called in there and asked about it. $450 and a carton of beer later and I was hooking her up to the Troopy.

After crawling all over her I think she deserves another chance so I will go for a rebuild. Stay fairly stock. I don't want to go overboard but these things have a way of evolving... The only major upgrade would be the brakes for safety, and probably LPG setup if she becomes a daily driver - I've daily driven a 2F before = $$$. See how I go without power steering at first - keeping the pizza cutter wheels (new rubber of coarse ) should be ok with the steering. And we all want an extra gear too....

Already started the tear down and am trying to get the 2F running properly. She fires straight up but dies and wont idle which is annoying me. I have a thread about it in 40 tech:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/703480-2f-fires-then-dies-where-next.html

The chassis is nice and clean rust wise. A couple of cracks but nothing that can't be easily welded. She's had a hard life but has been a country truck all her life by the looks. Both mudguards/fenders are cactus, a few other panels are saveable. The tub has been beat to hell around the bottom skirt but otherwise pretty good with only one rust hole in the floor. Wiring is a start from scratch affair . IH8 electrics . Brakes don't work, clutch don't work, transfer is missing some bits, tailshaft is bent to hell, diffs need overhauling, needs a new tray/bed, battery tray is missing, needs a new windsceen, new doors would be the best option, needs an exhaust, needs seats, needs a lot of things....

Why am I doing this again? I need a parts rig for my parts rig!

I wan't to get her on the road sooner rather than later because my troopy is getting rather tired and needs some TLC.

 

[Lupdog]

I had a fj45 1973 with the old stye doors and it had the clips like them and clips where the rear panel meets the bottom panel . If you took a cople of bolts out the roof ,the back panel and the roof comes off and the screan folds down on the bonnet. Nice way to cruise the back beach of fraser island.

I know the setup you mean Aussie, for the removable top with the clamps on the rear panel. I actually just picked up a '68 or '69 cut up 40 cowl on friday that uses the very same clamps to secure the windsceen to the dash. Already thinking about converting the back panel to fully removable top. I would need to think of a seatbelt option if I went topless. Not really comfortable with just the lap belts as this ute has now either.

I just can't figure out why it has clips at the front and not at the back. Strange.

 

[love2fly]

Nice find Lupdog, and for the price even better, "the beer" man I don't know if I could let a case of beer go, Ha!
Glad your considering giving her a second chance. Was it a military rig at one time?

 

[Lupdog]

Nice find Lupdog, and for the price even better, "the beer" man I don't know if I could let a case of beer go, Ha!
Glad your considering giving her a second chance. Was it a military rig at one time?

It was cheap and nasty beer if that is any consolation!

Not a military truck that I know of. I don't know if the military ever used LCs here. Lots of landrovers and now G-wagons too. I think a few troopys may have been used as radio vehicles but not many.

Why do you ask?

 

[love2fly]

The P

Try going to this site and click on the RHD box, or put in your Frame #:
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/q_G_1974_TOYOTA_LAND+CRUISER_FJ45.html

I believe the "P" stands for Pickup. Some have a P-B
I read sometime back that the Australian army used Land Cruisers and when shipped they had an extra code but not positive on that.
Enjoy.

 

[Doctor do Little]

I I don't know if the military ever used LCs here.....

We have seen some of the Army Landcruiser when we visited Australia twice in the late eighties.
http://www.oldlandcruisercompany.com/ArmyCruisers.html

Nice find by the way
Cheers
Peter

 

[love2fly]

Cool photos

Peter, pretty nice pictures. Any idea of what year the OZ army stopped using the FJ45- was it 1984?
My 82 FJ45 has a light stamp on the rear frame N or M, Mil108276, very hard to read.

 

[Doctor do Little]

Peter, pretty nice pictures. Any idea of what year the OZ army stopped using the FJ45- was it 1984?
My 82 FJ45 has a light stamp on the rear frame N or M, Mil108276, very hard to read.

No clue
I´m not an Aussie
Cheers
Peter

 

[cult45]

They primarily used 6cyl 2.25L petrol Landrovers but for some reason the Norforce [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norforce] bought and ran HJ47 Troopy's. Not sure why they stopped but sometime after the J4 stopped in '84 I'm pretty sure Norforce [the only unit to run Landcruisers] streamlined into Landrovers like the rest of the Army. Then they revisited the Toyota badge sometime in the 90's and started running HZJ75's but they were all white and were mainly for troop transport in metro areas, AFAIK.

Which means I doubt Lupdog's new rig [whilst a good find] is an ex-army truck. But I was wrong once, so I could be again

 

[Lupdog]

Cross posted from another thread for Living in the past: (anyone can have a go!)

I am curious about your rig. Have you owned it a long time? While we never got the 45 here in the US after 67 our 40 models never came up with the combo you have. I know the clamps against the top of the windscreen were not on the 40 series that wiper setup was. It stopped with the 74 model. Those doors you have as well as the latch on the cab were a 75 and later. So either yours was pieced together at some point or a true change over model. Have your dated it off the info on Specter's site. I would have thought the change from clamps to bolts would happened on the Windscreen and back of the cab at the same.

John, I have only had it for a few weeks. Read the first few posts in here for a bit of the history. The tub as you say, has the later style door latches with the accommodating "bump" on the pillar. I thought these doors started in 75 too as I think I queried at the start of the thread so that is mystery #1.

Mystery #2 is the cab being bolted at the back and having quick release clamps at the front.


Now for the numbers. I did do a check on Spector's site when i first got it and it came up weird, but I forgot to mention it in this thread. The frame number is:

# 85454

This number is stamped the same on the frame, the Toyota inner fender tag, and also on the Australian firewall compliance tag. So by SOR's chart that makes it an 06/1970 right?

Well not by the firewall compliance plate it doesn't. It is stamped # 85454 and dated 10/74. And none of the body features really fit for a 1970 truck or even a 1974 maybe for that matter.

Sure, some panels etc could have been swapped around with different year stuff. It would have to be a full tub swap, cab, doors etc. Perhaps even a whole truck was swapped onto this frame.

I hope this makes sense. Thanks, Lup

 

[wongtsenhin]

Is that a 3 speed box?
Nice found BTW!