Builds My first '40 and the venture (9 Viewers)
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OlYellr
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Quick side track before I recap yesterday at Russ's (@solomrus) - Had to bust out so I could make a call with Dan (@mtn biker) and Ian (@RevISK) - The three of us chatted for a while ... Soon after that - I ended up taking my mom out to the farm to see what the hub-bub was about.
This is looking north towards Omaha.
This is looking west towards Lincoln....
and this is looking south toward town I live in...
Never seen it take 270 degrees of the sky.
This is looking north towards Omaha.
This is looking west towards Lincoln....
and this is looking south toward town I live in...
Never seen it take 270 degrees of the sky.
Chungas Revenge
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Epic….
OlYellr
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Started off learning about the propeller shafts/Spiders. Learned how to reads the orientation of the zerks per the FSM - and more importantly, why.
Went from this....
and...
Parts shot....
and a smack of a hammer to the yoke to set the races/snap rings ad get the to this....
Went from this....
and...
Parts shot....
and a smack of a hammer to the yoke to set the races/snap rings ad get the to this....
OlYellr
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On to some assembly - Removed OME springs after putting the trans jack under the rear diff since we would be removing a lot of weight from front and didn't want the weight shift to create something more exciting.
Russ and I talked about the lean Ian has to the driver side and it sounds like that is not unheard of on Cruisers - Learned about an old school fix where you put a 3/8 to half inch metal "shim" between the passenger rear axle and leaf spring - Russ said he did it to his 70's Series - make the shim not huge but not small either - hole for pin etc.
Anyway - measured both front springs and the one that was taller, put on Drivers side (Dobinson's were almost the same). Ian and I were talking yesterday and he said some brands have specific DS vs PS where the DS is a bit beefed up.
and a shot of one one before I talk about pins and shackles.
Russ and I talked about the lean Ian has to the driver side and it sounds like that is not unheard of on Cruisers - Learned about an old school fix where you put a 3/8 to half inch metal "shim" between the passenger rear axle and leaf spring - Russ said he did it to his 70's Series - make the shim not huge but not small either - hole for pin etc.
Anyway - measured both front springs and the one that was taller, put on Drivers side (Dobinson's were almost the same). Ian and I were talking yesterday and he said some brands have specific DS vs PS where the DS is a bit beefed up.
and a shot of one one before I talk about pins and shackles.
RevISK
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One of the replies I received from dobinson’s was that they sell a block to fix the notorious cruiser lean (that I honestly felt I was educating him about), when I stated that one should be included with their kits they went dark on me.
I have a chunk from my old springs (that made the truck dead nuts level all around) that I’ll use for the block when I can convince myself to do so.
My old springs fell apart when I removed them so that step was saved for me.
I have a chunk from my old springs (that made the truck dead nuts level all around) that I’ll use for the block when I can convince myself to do so.
My old springs fell apart when I removed them so that step was saved for me.
OlYellr
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Dobinson's Pins and Shackles - First impression - underwhelmed and bit disappointed. Bottom Line Up Front, I think they have a QC issue.
The holes for the pins didn't quite like up with the bolt holes on the frame, so had to do some minor milling on the pin holes to get it right for the bolt to line up. Look at the right side hole - basically all pins are that way. Sure it was just a few minutes and I get it, not OEM.
Shackle quality isn't better IMO. They come apart with minor force - basically they are not true and they bind. See how they don't sit level on the table (gap on left).
Russ took his 20 ton press to them to take the binding out (well reduce it) and they went together much easier after he did that.
First impression??... I am not... My opinion, not worth the $$ I can't recommend these pins and shackles for the current state of their quality with the the $$ they cost. I may get different shackles from Valley or CruiserTEQ (anti-inversion one - will see - not going to react instantly to this).
The holes for the pins didn't quite like up with the bolt holes on the frame, so had to do some minor milling on the pin holes to get it right for the bolt to line up. Look at the right side hole - basically all pins are that way. Sure it was just a few minutes and I get it, not OEM.
Shackle quality isn't better IMO. They come apart with minor force - basically they are not true and they bind. See how they don't sit level on the table (gap on left).
Russ took his 20 ton press to them to take the binding out (well reduce it) and they went together much easier after he did that.
First impression??... I am not... My opinion, not worth the $$ I can't recommend these pins and shackles for the current state of their quality with the the $$ they cost. I may get different shackles from Valley or CruiserTEQ (anti-inversion one - will see - not going to react instantly to this).
RevISK
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Surprisingly none. When I yanked the old packs out, those pieces fell off of three of the springs. First one I thought was the aforementioned block until I found three more. The pins were just basically dust.
Don’t forget to put your caster shims on the springs while they’re off the truck. Almost enjoyable to do on a bench compared to on the truck.
RevISK
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Go on with your bad self…
OlYellr
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Today wasn't a full day at it - met some other people, hung out, had pizza, and did some work.
What did happen,...
Ensured the springs were on right - made sure the pins lined up to when the shackle compress the axle would go to the bump stop.
Then got the 4 degree caster shims on. Then some final painting for the diff, knuckles etc
and inserted...
Next step was get the axle on and then put the 4Plus flip kits. Trim the bolts and torque to 108 ft-lbs
and used this tool to clean up the bolt cut first trim.
for a final look
What did happen,...
Ensured the springs were on right - made sure the pins lined up to when the shackle compress the axle would go to the bump stop.
Then got the 4 degree caster shims on. Then some final painting for the diff, knuckles etc
and inserted...
Next step was get the axle on and then put the 4Plus flip kits. Trim the bolts and torque to 108 ft-lbs
and used this tool to clean up the bolt cut first trim.
for a final look
Green Bean
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Very nice job. What is that cleanup tool called?
RevISK
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Deburring Bit and/or chamfering bit
Green Bean
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Thank you. Seems like a nice tool to have available in toolchest when needed. I just ordered one from the 24/7 online shopping mall. Unfortunately, though, when the time rolls around to a situation where I actually need to use it, I will probably forget that I have it or where I put it.
OlYellr
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Yep - and if like me, easier to just order another one when time comes. I will say it makes a nice clean look. Today I'm even more grateful the time was take for those details.Thank you. Seems like a nice tool to have available in toolchest when needed. I just ordered one from the 24/7 online shopping mall. Unfortunately, though, when the time rolls around to a situation where I actually need to use it, I will probably forget that I have it or where I put it.
No different than your post about the rock chip in hood - want to take pride with what you have. That is one hell of a cleaning process. My OCD got activated after reading you post
OlYellr
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I mentioned a different issue I would post about, and now is the time.
I waited to post, because I wanted to talk to Mark (@65swb45) before I posted since he rebuilt the carb. I wanted him to know I am happy and glad he did. I am getting up-to 15 mpg with it and in no way wanting any hint of shade his way for his efforts. We had a great talk on Friday and we ended the call and I was more comfortable with posting having told him I have zero issues with his craft and having an opportunity for him to express concerns with me posting.
So before got Yellr on the lift, did a smoke test. Because after I did the lean drop on the carb (got the RPM closer to where I wanted idle) I wasn't getting the vacuum (mentioned earlier post).
The smoke test highlighted a big manifold leak where the union is below the carb. Addressed that and resolved, BUT 3 new leaks showed up with the carb itself. Both primary and secondary shaft and at what I think is called the slow cutoff. Also bubbling (fuel) with the secondary).
In summary, Mark and I talked about how the gas has changed over the years (additives, corn-based, etc). He said he has seen over the years the gas creates pitting in the carb etc, leading to leaks along the shafts etc. There are some threads on MUD about gas and carbs (have not made time to find them).
Separate topic but mentioning MPG reminded me of something...
Ian (@RevISK) - it occurred to me after our recording of Dan's (@mtn biker) podcast we did Friday night, about different speeds between the odometer vs gps - a possible answer - easy to think being off by constant mph (I.E. off by 5 mph), but how about off by a constant % - so the faster you go, the more off you are with the GPS. (10% of 20 mph is 2 mph - 10% off of 60 is 6 mph). I don't know, maybe.
Here is the video of the various leaking chasing down the best vacuum. Will resume that rabbit, to a degree, after all the other work is done I'm posting about.
I waited to post, because I wanted to talk to Mark (@65swb45) before I posted since he rebuilt the carb. I wanted him to know I am happy and glad he did. I am getting up-to 15 mpg with it and in no way wanting any hint of shade his way for his efforts. We had a great talk on Friday and we ended the call and I was more comfortable with posting having told him I have zero issues with his craft and having an opportunity for him to express concerns with me posting.
So before got Yellr on the lift, did a smoke test. Because after I did the lean drop on the carb (got the RPM closer to where I wanted idle) I wasn't getting the vacuum (mentioned earlier post).
The smoke test highlighted a big manifold leak where the union is below the carb. Addressed that and resolved, BUT 3 new leaks showed up with the carb itself. Both primary and secondary shaft and at what I think is called the slow cutoff. Also bubbling (fuel) with the secondary).
In summary, Mark and I talked about how the gas has changed over the years (additives, corn-based, etc). He said he has seen over the years the gas creates pitting in the carb etc, leading to leaks along the shafts etc. There are some threads on MUD about gas and carbs (have not made time to find them).
Separate topic but mentioning MPG reminded me of something...
Ian (@RevISK) - it occurred to me after our recording of Dan's (@mtn biker) podcast we did Friday night, about different speeds between the odometer vs gps - a possible answer - easy to think being off by constant mph (I.E. off by 5 mph), but how about off by a constant % - so the faster you go, the more off you are with the GPS. (10% of 20 mph is 2 mph - 10% off of 60 is 6 mph). I don't know, maybe.
Here is the video of the various leaking chasing down the best vacuum. Will resume that rabbit, to a degree, after all the other work is done I'm posting about.
