LC100/LX470 Part-Time Conversion Discussion (4 Viewers)

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still need to swing it by for you all to drive it! it is killing the canyon roads and step east bench hills. you guys open with the earthquake?

There was an earthquake??








Yes, we are here jamming on orders!
 
5.7 In Magna this morning ~7 am, i felt it up here in Logan.

Yes, yes... I was being facetious. It rumbled us pretty good at the house and we had a shimmy at the shop later in the day too.
 
Kurt,

another dumb question, is there an alternative to the CDL switch? I know it’s bright ass orange when it is pressed on (on the cluster indicators I mean) but accidentally engaging that at freeway speed is always a possibility. Lets say you hit that switch on accident...so just wondering if there is a work around


If you did have a switch or actuator failure, you would would have 2WD only. Fortunately it's not a failure we see/hear about. As for the engaging the front half of the t-case while driving... exactly the same as doing so in every 4x/5x/6x/7x, if you're moving slow it's not going to be noticed, if at highway speed it would be trying to match the front and rear output shafts which will be noisy. Just like trying to shift from H-L while moving. Just don't do it :D



Any gear change will cause increased noise. Different cases will exhibit more or less. There are some long threads here on Mud about this, I'll try and dig them up. I explain it this way, it's about like going from a street tire to an All-Terrain. You'll notice it, nobody else in the car will know the difference.
 
Kurt,

another dumb question, is there an alternative to the CDL switch? I know it’s bright ass orange when it is pressed on (on the cluster indicators I mean) but accidentally engaging that at freeway speed is always a possibility. Lets say you hit that switch on accident...so just wondering if there is a work around

I suppose you could move the switch, add an additional switch for redundancy or a lock-out switch but this hasn't exactly been a problem with the thousands? that have done PT conversions or many factory Toyota setups that had similar "one button" operation starting in the 1960's. I've not had anyone else mention it thusfar so I've not looked into any solutions.
 
I suppose you could move the switch, add an additional switch for redundancy or a lock-out switch but this hasn't exactly been a problem with the thousands? that have done PT conversions or many factory Toyota setups that had similar "one button" operation starting in the 1960's. I've not had anyone else mention it thusfar so I've not looked into any solutions.
Plus CDL switches are cheap. Buy a spare and keep it in the glove box just in case the unlikely happens.
 
Kurt,

another dumb question, is there an alternative to the CDL switch? I know it’s bright ass orange when it is pressed on (on the cluster indicators I mean) but accidentally engaging that at freeway speed is always a possibility. Lets say you hit that switch on accident...so just wondering if there is a work around

Isn't that also a possibility when you are not PT? Also have you ever done that?
 
Isn't that also a possibility when you are not PT? Also have you ever done that?

I have 🤓
First at street speeds (under 40 mph) and then going down the highway in 4 High I turned on the CDL to see what the effect would be. Truth be told, I couldn't tell the difference in straights and curves. At slower speeds when I take sharper turns there is remarkable understeer (takes a wider turn). Also there is some wheel hop but only on dry surface.

I love the idea of PT conversion, especially since I am hoping to get underdrive gears in the transfer case anyway, but I find myself driving in nasty, slippery wintery conditions about 4 months a year and I think for that an unlocked 4H is ideal.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
 
I have 🤓
First at street speeds (under 40 mph) and then going down the highway in 4 High I turned on the CDL to see what the effect would be. Truth be told, I couldn't tell the difference in straights and curves. At slower speeds when I take sharper turns there is remarkable understeer (takes a wider turn). Also there is some wheel hop but only on dry surface.

I love the idea of PT conversion, especially since I am hoping to get underdrive gears in the transfer case anyway, but I find myself driving in nasty, slippery wintery conditions about 4 months a year and I think for that an unlocked 4H is ideal.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Your logic on keeping 4h is good. I live in texas, no need for awd. If its sloppy ill lock the hubs and just disengage 4x4 with the CDL switch, like a pickup truck.
 
I have 🤓
First at street speeds (under 40 mph) and then going down the highway in 4 High I turned on the CDL to see what the effect would be. Truth be told, I couldn't tell the difference in straights and curves. At slower speeds when I take sharper turns there is remarkable understeer (takes a wider turn). Also there is some wheel hop but only on dry surface.

I love the idea of PT conversion, especially since I am hoping to get underdrive gears in the transfer case anyway, but I find myself driving in nasty, slippery wintery conditions about 4 months a year and I think for that an unlocked 4H is ideal.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
You are really binding up your drivetrain doing that...
 
You are really binding up your drivetrain doing that...
Sure - That's why I pretty much never use the CDL unless I am in 4L on trails. I was just explaining why a PT conversion isn't ideal for me since I need it be 4H in slippery conditions.
 
Sure - That's why I pretty much never use the CDL unless I am in 4L on trails. I was just explaining why a PT conversion isn't ideal for me since I need it be 4H in slippery conditions.
You were talking about engaging your CDL on dry pavement. That’s all I was referring to.
 
Sure - That's why I pretty much never use the CDL unless I am in 4L on trails. I was just explaining why a PT conversion isn't ideal for me since I need it be 4H in slippery conditions.
so just to be clear, you want to retain the AWD functionality of the LC not the 4H. 4H in my mind says that the CDL is locked since you would be in 4WD. as for your your worries about the CDL being pressed move it some where awkward and you wont be able to hit it as easy I guess.
 
so just to be clear, you want to retain the AWD functionality of the LC not the 4H. 4H in my mind says that the CDL is locked since you would be in 4WD. as for your your worries about the CDL being pressed move it some where awkward and you wont be able to hit it as easy I guess.
I don't worry so much about CDL being accidentally pressed - I just want to keep the AWD since I rely on it for a large part of the year. Also, mine is a 98 model so I don't have VSC or even 4-channel ABS to help out in slippery conditions.

You were talking about engaging your CDL on dry pavement. That’s all I was referring to.

Not to wander too far off from the topic here: @DirtDawg would be horrified but yesterday driving at around 60 mph I noticed my truck didn't even like going around a mild curve! I was on dry pavement and the truck wanted to plow straight ahead. I pulled off the highway and as I turned right, I noticed that my rear locker is locked!! :eek:
I have factory e-locker installed with Low Range Offroad switch and harness and the bulb on the switch that lights up when the locker is engaged is not working. So I accidentally locked the rear and it didn't feel good on the highway. I gotta fix that bulb and also install a kill switch somewhere so I can keep it disconnected until I really need it. :slap:
 
Installed.

As others have reported, there is a subtle lightness to the steering and the driveline is smoother overall. Very happy with the new set up.

The Aisin hubs are great. They really set this kit apart from any other.

I've driven this truck for the last ten years, and 100K miles. The part-time conversion was on my to-do list to get it ready for the next 100K.

Thanks to @cruiseroutfit. They were great to deal with.

Update 7-27-22: I'm @ 200,000 miles and I'm still loving the part-time kit. Doing 75-80 MPH on the highway is a dream now. I didn't realize how much vibration I was getting from the front driveline. Doesn't feel like I need a 5 speed gearbox anymore. Super smooth.

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Installed.

As others have reported, there is a subtle lightness to the steering and the driveline is smoother overall. Very happy with the new set up.

The Aisin hubs are great. They really set this kit apart from any other.

I've driven this truck for the last ten years, and 100K miles. The part-time conversion was on my to-do list to get it ready for the next 100K.

Thanks to @cruiseroutfit. They were great to deal with.

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Thanks for the kind words!
 

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