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Airing my grievance that the OT does not have memory seat settings. Annoyed that they left that off. I have heard that the OT does include power tilt and telescope steering wheel though 🤷
 
Airing my grievance that the OT does not have memory seat settings. Annoyed that they left that off. I have heard that the OT does include power tilt and telescope steering wheel though 🤷
Can the lack of memory seat settings on the OT and OT+ be confirmed?
 
OT+ has it. OT does not. According to one person that took delivery of an OT, it does not have memory seat settings.

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Maybe there is a plug for the buttons behind the dash and all you need to do is swap out that dash panel and install the button assembly..

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Thanks Kurt. You are such a valuable resource!!

Seems odd the OT wouldn’t have ceiling AC- kinda a bummer


I’m a die hard Toyota/ Lexus fan. However a new bronco with Sasquatch package for ~$47k is very appealing….. my wife’s car is the family roadtripper and I’ll never sell my built 100
 
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edit - I replaced the tag photo with a higher resolution picture for clarity. Rear axle is load rating is 4,100lb.

Giving it the ‘I’m at an event’ level of look over the build is stout. There were 5 trucks there and I looked at/in/under each one multiple times and came away with ‘damn, this thing is beefy.’ I’m ready to take the chance, ask me in 2044 how mine hold up (assuming I get it this year).

I’m confident the integrated design/analysis/simulation tools and Toyota/Lexus R&D have done a good job on the requirements, the design and putting mass where it needs to be. While I don’t work with Toyota (I work in Aerospace), I’m expecting their tools/training are top notch.

My old ME prof (Dr. Charles R. Mischke) used to say - ‘We bury our ignorance in metal.’. I don’t think Toyota is ignorant.


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I personally ran a full set of 1/4” aluminum skid plates on my Tacoma to keep weight down a little bit (+ BAMF sliders and a high clearance steel rear bumper). Dragged them across many rocks and they performed and held up great. Personally I’m planning to run aftermarket aluminum skids as the Lexus ones are fairly thin. I think they would work for 99% of the world that would never try an obstacle or trail that has significant risk of high centering.

The first customer LC250 First Edition was parked in front of the Toyota side of the house. I is a customer truck so was not open. I did get a good look at the rock sliders. They appear sufficiently beefy with reasonable attachment points. I’m sure Toyota did plenty of math on the bolt clamp loads and Finite Element Analysis to be confident.. Very, very few GX or LC250 will become rock rigs so the Toyota sliders look up to the task of protecting the rockers. I do wish they had a rear kick out. Unfortunately I did not get pictures.

Additional edit comment. The aftermarket will make sliders that are both stronger (more lower attachment points across the frame, bigger hardware, stronger/thicker DoM material) and better (kick out, fill plates, 0 degrees so some utility as a step). Not saying these are as stout as the aftermarket. If you are a frequent brasher of rocks or frequently traverse gate keeper type obstacles the factory sliders are likely not for you.

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And for those that really want a 70, this one has Montana plates, someone has had the money and will to make it happen. Clearly there is a way for those with the appetite to make your own arrangements.

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One more set of pictures. This time of the spec sheets from one of the OT+. Note the tow rating is 9,063lb. The 479 lb-ft of torque is from 2,000 - 3,600 RPM (thank you turbos). The VIN is #381.

I was talking with one of the Longo reps and he shared these where, in fact, production trucks, they are owned by Lexus and being used for events like this and will be used for customer demo’s in the future.

My raffle tickets are there too, they did not win.

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I personally ran a full set of 1/4” aluminum skid plates on my Tacoma to keep weight down a little bit (+ BAMF sliders and a high clearance steel rear bumper). Dragged them across many rocks and they performed and held up great. Personally I’m planning to run aftermarket aluminum skids as the Lexus ones are fairly thin. I think they would work for 99% of the world that would never try an obstacle or trail that has significant risk of high centering.

The first customer LC250 First Edition was parked in front of the Toyota side of the house. I is a customer truck so was not open. I did get a good look at the rock sliders. They appear sufficiently beefy with reasonable attachment points. I’m sure Toyota did plenty of math on the bolt clamp loads and Finite Element Analysis to be confident.. Very, very few GX or LC250 will become rock rigs so the Toyota sliders look up to the task of protecting the rockers. I do wish they had a rear kick out. Unfortunately I did not get pictures.

Additional edit comment. The aftermarket will make sliders that are both stronger (more lower attachment points across the frame, bigger hardware, stronger/thicker DoM material) and better (kick out, fill plates, 0 degrees so some utility as a step). Not saying these are as stout as the aftermarket. If you are a frequent brasher of rocks or frequently traverse gate keeper type obstacles the factory sliders are likely not for you.

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Throttle House LC250 Review.
They at least mention / explain the Prado factor early on. I thought it was an entertaining review...


I think they are just entertaining car reviewers with no real knowledge of the Land Cruiser platforms. All they did was regurgitate Toyota’s talking points on the new Prado. They also proved how cheaply it was made by referring to the interior as cheap, underwhelming engine performance and the way the door sounded when shutting. They never even bring up how it compares the LX600 in their recovery team. In the end they pretty much say just buy the 4R or GX unless you just have to have the Land Cruiser name *cough Prado*!
 
I think they are just entertaining car reviewers with no real knowledge of the Land Cruiser platforms. All they did was regurgitate Toyota’s talking points on the new Prado. They also proved how cheaply it was made by referring to the interior as cheap, underwhelming engine performance and the way the door sounded when shutting. They never even bring up how it compares the LX600 in their recovery team. In the end they pretty much say just buy the 4R or GX unless you just have to have the Land Cruiser name *cough Prado*!

I disagree, and I don't think you need to be a Land Cruiser expert to discuss capabilities and drawbacks of the 250. As an 80 owner, I don't look at the 200 series and think "wow, now there's a Land Cruiser," and I'm not sure why I'd make any assumption that the 250 doesn't look like it can fill the position as a Land Cruiser that is a sophisticated crossover between comfy daily driver and extremely off-road capable SUV. The 80 series went for 35k starting MSRP in the 90's which google says is equivalent to almost 80k today! I also don't think they were regurgitating talking points; they were talking about their experience driving it for 70+% of the video, not Toyota marketing stats. I don't like the way the door sounds, but my 80 sounds worse (again, equivalent to $80k and the door sounded like that new too). I also don't think solid door sound equates to any metric other than "seems feeble" and I don't know why we use that metric outside of personal preference. Throw some foam or deadener in there and you'd be none the wiser with absolutely no difference in it's structural integrity. The LX goes for minimum 150% of the price, a comparison there would make no sense.

The 4 Runner seems like a great deal, but you ARE forced to have what to me seems like a frat boys fantasy interior setup; loud and constantly vying for your attention. Meanwhile, the 250 is subdued and doesn't force you to slam tall boy redbulls and pack ZYN every time you get in it. The GX looks fantastic, but doesn't look as modular if you want to armor it up. Much like the 460 you're going to have to cut up the factory plastics while the 250, from what i can tell, seems like you'll be able to simply pull panels and bolt on aftermarkets while always being able to go back to factory if you want. THAT is a big attractor to me personally.

I'm REALLY hoping that, also like the 80 series, they swap the powerplant over or add the TTV6 or Tundra I-Force Max in the future. I think that would make it much more palatable for most people. Frankly, they sold me on it's ability to keep trucking along even when you beat the s*** out of it just a bit too hard.
 
Yeah, with the North America review embargo lifted there's a wide selection of YouTube reviews to watch for the LC 250. The majority of them take place with the same press cars on a Toyota selected / hosted track route at the same location. Very few of them provide a mention or background context around 'Prado' and the history there. The bar is pretty low so far on these reviews.

I shared the Throttle House one because, although not LC or even off-road experts, they at least took it somewhere interesting... to an overnight trip on the sand dunes and tried to frame where this new LC 250 fits in the current and prior generation(s) lineup. At the end of the day, set your expectation low for most YouTube 'automotive journalists', but I still enjoyed their Top Gear-esque attempt at making the review entertaining.

As a 2006 LC100 owner, I don't think the LC250 is where I am headed..... but I might consider snagging a GX550 Overtrail in Nori Green in a few years. Or maybe just gently used late model LX570. Either way, I celebrate the number of options available to us as enthusiasts :)
 

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